Joey Barton

ClaretJimmy · Post by **ClaretJimmy** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:03 pm

Been banned from football for 18 months according to Bryan Swanson (Twitter)

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:03 pm

Career over.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:04 pm

Just come up on the yellow bar on SSN

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:05 pm

Career over. Did well to drag it out this long.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:06 pm

Might as well appeal that and drag it out tikl the end of the season.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:06 pm

Good job we'd been gradually phasing him out of the team in favour of younger players with a future here.

Oh.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:06 pm

All the best to him then, thanks for everything he did for us.

Shame it's ended like this.

BurningBeard · Post by **BurningBeard** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:06 pm

Any chance he can appeal the (ridiculous) length of the ban and at least complete the season?

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:07 pm

Arise Steven Defour...who am I kidding

Leisure · Post by **Leisure** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:07 pm

He is appealing the length of the ban, so not sure what that does, if anything, to when it starts.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:07 pm

Blessing in disguise

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:07 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Good job we'd been gradually phasing him out of the team in favour of younger players with a future here.

Oh.

Westwood will replace him with O'Neill back next season.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:08 pm

No problem. Appeal against the severity of the sentence which drags it out til the end of the season and then announce his retirement.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:08 pm

Huge shame. Joey has been brilliant for us. The ultimate professional. We all knew that this was probably going to happen.

It was worth him coming back just for his goal from the bench against Southampton.

He'll make the headlines for very negative reasons today, but I'm proud of the fact that whilst he wore the Claret and Blue of Burnley FC and the Luncoln game aside, he has been nothing more than a model professional.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:09 pm

Heard he has no right of appeal which would be odd if true.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:09 pm

KRBFC wrote:Blessing in disguise

Bloody hell, I agree with you for once!

He's been rubbish for a while now. Time to get Defour or Westwood into the side in his place.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:09 pm

Defour might actually get a start @ palace now.. all the best Joey mind..

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:10 pm

Hopefully we can look to get Arfield back in the team to replace him

BFCmaj · Post by **BFCmaj** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:11 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Heard he has no right of appeal which would be odd if true.

Did he accept the charges? If so, that's why there's no right of appeal.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:12 pm

Barton statement here, including betting on games he was involved in

http://www.joeybarton.com/betting-statement/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:13 pm

Fantastic for us in both spells but his performances just haven't been good enough for a while, I suspect he'd have retired at the end of this season either way. He deserves huge credit for the way he's handled himself with us but it's time for both parties to move on.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:13 pm

Statement on http://www.joeybarton.com/betting-statement/

The FA have announced I am banned from all football for 18 months and fined £30,000 and costs for offences against The FA’s Betting Rules. I am very disappointed at the harshness of the sanction. The decision effectively forces me into an early retirement from playing football. To be clear from the outset here this is not match fixing and at no point in any of this is my integrity in question.

I accept that I broke the rules governing professional footballers, but I do feel the penalty is heavier than it might be for other less controversial players. I have fought addiction to gambling and provided the FA with a medical report about my problem. I’m disappointed it wasn’t taken into proper consideration. I think if the FA is truly serious about tackling the culture of gambling in football, it needs to look at its own dependence on the gambling companies, their role in football and in sports broadcasting, rather than just blaming the players who place a bet.

I am not alone in football in having a problem with gambling. I grew up in an environment where betting was and still is part of the culture. From as early as I can remember my family let me have my own pools coupon, and older members of the family would place bets for me on big races like the Grand National. To this day, I rarely compete at anything without there being something at stake. Whether that’s a round of golf with friends for a few pounds, or a game of darts in the training ground for who makes the tea, I love competing. I love winning. I am also addicted to that. It is also the case that professional football has long had a betting culture, and I have been in the sport all my adult life.

Given the money in the game, and the explosion in betting on sport, I understand why the rules have been strengthened, and I also accept that I have been in breach of them. I accept too that the FA has to be seen to lead on this issue. But surely they need to accept there is a huge clash between their rules and the culture that surrounds the modern game, where anyone who watches follows football on TV or in the stadia is bombarded by marketing, advertising and sponsorship by betting companies, and where much of the coverage now, on Sky for example, is intertwined with the broadcasters’ own gambling interests.

That all means this is not an easy environment in which to try to stop gambling, or even to encourage people within the sport that betting is wrong. It is like asking a recovering alcoholic to spend all his time in a pub or a brewery. If the FA is serious about tackling gambling I would urge it to reconsider its own dependence on the gambling industry. I say that knowing that every time I pull on my team’s shirt, I am advertising a betting company.

I say none of this to justify myself. But I do want to explain that sometimes these issues are more complicated than they seem.

As for the scale of my football betting, since 2004, on a Betfair account held in my own name, registered at my home address and verified by my own passport, with full transparency, I have placed over 15,000 bets across a whole range of sports. Just over 1,200 were placed on football and subject to the charges against me. The average bet was just over £150, many were for only a few pounds.

For the modern footballer, downtime and rest are important and I spend much of my time away from training in front of a TV screen, channel hopping across a range of sports, and betting on the outcome of games. I like watching sports and predicting the outcome. Set alongside what we are privileged to earn as footballers, my betting stakes are relatively small. Betting for me, is less about how much money I win or lose, and more about whether I can correctly predict the outcome of the game I’m watching. I hate losing more than I like winning, and this mindset has helped prevent me from placing big bets, for fear of losing big.

Raised at the hearing was that between 2004 and 2011 I placed a handful of bets on my own team to lose matches. I accept of course that this is against the rules, for the obvious reason that a player with an additional financial stake in the game might seek to change the course of it for his own personal gain. However I’d like to offer some context.

First, in every game I have played, I have given everything. I’m confident that anyone who has ever seen me play, or played with or against me, will confirm that to be the case. I am more aware than anyone that I have character issues that I struggle with, and my addictive personality is one of them, but I am a devoted and dedicated professional who has always given my all on the pitch.

Second, on the few occasions where I placed a bet on my own team to lose, I was not involved in the match day squad for any of those games. I did not play. I was not even on the bench. I had no more ability to influence the outcome than had I been betting on darts, snooker, or a cricket match in the West Indies. I should add that on some of those occasions, my placing of the bet on my own team to lose was an expression of my anger and frustration at not being picked or being unable to play. I understand people will think that is childish and selfish and I cannot disagree with that.

Third, I should point out that the last of these bets against my own team was six years ago (and in a reserve game), when I was going through a particularly troubled period, and when the FA were not nearly as hard on gambling as they are now.

One thing I can state with absolute certainty – I have never placed a bet against my own team when in a position to influence the game, and I am pleased that in all of the interviews with the FA, and at the hearing, my integrity on that point has never been in question. I could not live with myself, nor face my team-mates or the fans of the clubs I played for, if they seriously thought I would bet on my team to lose a game whose outcome I could influence.

The Commission that heard my case made clear in their reasons on a number of occasions that “there was no suggestion was involved in match fixing” and I am publishing a list of my bets because I want the full facts of my case to be known.

A ban of 18 months is longer than several bans handed to players who played in matches where they bet for their team to lose and – unlike me – were found to have had an ability to influence the games. The only players to be banned for 12 months or longer bet against their own teams and played in the matches in which they placed those bets. Players who did not play in the matches they placed the bets in have never been banned for longer than 6 months. I feel the ban is excessive in this context.

Throughout my career I am someone who has made mistakes and owned up to those mistakes and tried to learn from them. I intend to do that here. I accept that this is one more mess I got into because of my own behaviour. This episode has brought home to me that just as I had to face up to the need to get help to deal with alcohol abuse, and with anger, so now I need to get help for my issues with gambling, and I will do so.

I want to thank the Burnley FC board, management, players and staff for their faith and understanding, and their belief that I would play for them, and play well, even with this hanging over me, and I want to thank the Burnley fans for the support they have given me throughout. They have been brilliant.

Having consulted with my friends and lawyers, I have decided I will be appealing against the length of the ban. I hope that I shall be afforded a fair hearing by an independent Appeal Panel. If I am, we are confident that the sanction will be reduced to a fair one that both reflects the offences as well as the mitigating factors and the fact that there was nothing untoward or suspicious about the bets I made.

I’m keen to be open about it, here are the thirty most pertinent bets as determined by the FA:

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:15 pm

KRBFC wrote:Fantastic for us in both spells but his performances just haven't been good enough for a while, I suspect he'd have retired at the end of this season either way. He deserves huge credit for the way he's handled himself with us but it's time for both parties to move on.

This is spot on.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:15 pm

Even though I said he should be dropped, this is a **** way to end your career.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:16 pm

I'd have preferred to have seen him complete the season and watch him receiving the thanks that all true Clarets would have given him v WHU.
He played a massive part in getting us up last year and helped steady the ship once Marney got injured. We could easily have gone down without him.
Thanks, JB.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:16 pm

claretdj wrote:Defour might actually get a start @ palace now.. all the best Joey mind..

Yeah, but don't expect him to finish. Suspect it will be Westwood in any case.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:18 pm

Oooof

Not sure our midfield two works without either Marney or Barton.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:18 pm

That's a shame as he's been a very good player for us overall. But we do have Westwood waiting in the wings and Defour seemingly can't get a game. So I'm not too worried in that respect. Wish him all the best for the future. Cheers Joey!

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:20 pm

Defour back. Get in

MRG · Post by **MRG** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:24 pm

The first thing to jump out at me from the list of betting transactions is that he couldn't pick a winner in a 1 horse race. He makes Happyclaret look like Tom Pepper

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:25 pm

Modern football and the modern media love big characters so he'll be a big loss.
He was a tw*t until he played for us, then he become our tw*t and always gave 100%.

Shame to see him end his career this way but I suppose it suits his story.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:25 pm

ThinLizzy wrote:Barton doesn't make that challenge at the weekend v Man Utd, when 99.9% of the time he'd have nailed him. Call me cynical but looks like he was paid off to NOT make that challenge (should it have ocured).
Very un-Barton like that I thought at the time. Hmmmm.

What? This is pretty dangerous.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:25 pm

Don't think he'll get (or deserve) a lot of sympathy over this. Maybe a less controversial player would have been treated less harshly, but maybe that's just a realistic consequence of acting like a dick for most of your career. A sad way for anyone to end their career though.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:25 pm

Come on Sean Dyche. Whatever has gone on behind closed doors (if indeed anything has!) Do the obvious!

Time to use the man from Belgium!

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:28 pm

Joey has been absolutely outstanding for us both on and off the pitch. At the end of last season I was 50/50 bothered about whether he signed again with us being in the PL. I thought, as good as he was last season, maybe the PL would be to much. The way in which Rangers went for him I thought we had done well to not have him back. However, again he's proved what a good player he has been for us, even with this hanging over him. As jdrobbo said above, his only stain for me was his involvement in the Lincoln game. There, some "old Joey" appeared and he let us and the team down.

The benefits he has provided us have far outweighed the negatives and I hope we still see him complete this season.

BurnleyPaul · Post by **BurnleyPaul** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:28 pm

Right; let's support him through this and make sure we keep him at the club in some way. Time to see if he'd be interested in coaching....

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:29 pm

You need a smiley on that for safety at least.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:32 pm

love that he laid georgios samaras to score whilst playing in the same team as him.

Bacchus · Post by **Bacchus** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:33 pm

BurnleyPaul wrote:Right; let's support him through this and make sure we keep him at the club in some way. Time to see if he'd be interested in coaching....

Why?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:34 pm

BurningBeard wrote:Any chance he can appeal the (ridiculous) length of the ban and at least complete the season?

Apparently not, according to Bryan Swanson he will remain banned until any appeal his heard.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:34 pm

BurnleyPaul wrote:Right; let's support him through this and make sure we keep him at the club in some way. Time to see if he'd be interested in coaching....

He can't do anything for 18months, including coaching.

Rodneyyouplonker · Post by **Rodneyyouplonker** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:35 pm

Was expecting a ban, but 18 months is absolutely ridiculous.

Formerbfcmanager · Post by **Formerbfcmanager** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:35 pm

claretspice wrote:Might as well appeal that and drag it out tikl the end of the season.

I don't think any appeal would delay when the ban starts, especially given that he admitted the charges and the appeal is only against the length of the sanction

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:36 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:love that he laid georgios samaras to score whilst playing in the same team as him.

I was just laughing at that, you can't blame him.

Best of lucky Joey, been a great signing both times in my eyes and I think regardless of this ending your career, you will have a very successful punditry (or coaching) career ahead of you.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:36 pm

Absolutely ridiculous. No match fixing, no bets against his team that he could influence. Just a few £20 accumulators and an 18 month ban?

This is WAY out of proportion

*From 6 years ago too...

Nothing like retrospective action.

Shame the FA doesn't look into it's own corruption

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:36 pm

Arfield to CM then. He might as well have finished the season.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:38 pm

It's a hell of a ban though. 8 games or so for racism, 9 months for failing a drugs test, 18 months for being a crap if somewhat prolific gambler.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:40 pm

Warned about his future conduct...........What future, you've destroyed it.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:40 pm

They'll be a few footballers having a few sleepless nights over this I reckon...

18 months is a long time. Aapart from the Lincoln match, Barton has been a model professional on the field for Burnley Football Club and has been a pleasure watching him play here.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Wed Apr 26, 2017 1:43 pm

With only 4 games to go why couldn't the fa of waited untill the end of the season to charge joey? Seems to me that the fa is again penalizing Burnley Fc for something that happened before he was employed by our club, just like they did with the Andre Gray charge & ban. As the song goes No 1 likes us! Utc!