The turf moor "dead zone"

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
Post Reply
bobinho
Posts: 9330
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:48 pm
Been Liked: 4106 times
Has Liked: 6589 times
Location: Burnley

The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by bobinho » Thu May 11, 2017 8:16 pm

Was just wondering if anyone else suffers with internet access during games at the turf?

On EE, and my fone says I have four out of five signal bars, with 4g internet coverage, yet I can't get near the internet to check scores/super six results.

Anyone suggest why?

Cheers

dushanbe
Posts: 1012
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2016 5:20 pm
Been Liked: 396 times
Has Liked: 52 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by dushanbe » Thu May 11, 2017 8:27 pm

The nearby cells are swamped and all their available bandwidth is taken up. You'll still see indications of being connected to a cell but much like what happens when everyone is using your WI-Lan at home it all slows down.

levraiclaret
Posts: 1571
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:40 am
Been Liked: 428 times
Has Liked: 1483 times
Location: Leicestershire
Contact:

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by levraiclaret » Thu May 11, 2017 8:34 pm

Why don't BFC sell wifi passes?

Rick_Muller
Posts: 6138
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:53 am
Been Liked: 2634 times
Has Liked: 6461 times
Location: -90.000000, 0.000000

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu May 11, 2017 8:42 pm

You have 20000 smartphones all trying to pass data across a limited link. It can handle 2-300 concurrent connections, but not 20000

DCWat
Posts: 9334
Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:04 am
Been Liked: 4143 times
Has Liked: 3606 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by DCWat » Thu May 11, 2017 8:49 pm

I can usually get on (EE) to check scores during the game, but rarely can I at half time. At the last game though, I couldn't get on at all.

I'd happily pay for a connection if the club offered this. Surely it could be a decent money making scheme. If they can manage this for festivals etc. I'm not sure why more clubs aren't jumping on board.

There's an argument that everyone is there for the football and not to be on line but I do like to check scores / bets during a game.

Man of Kent
Posts: 724
Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:47 pm
Been Liked: 315 times
Has Liked: 41 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by Man of Kent » Thu May 11, 2017 8:55 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:You have 20000 smartphones all trying to pass data across a limited link. It can handle 2-300 concurrent connections, but not 20000
Think of all those 20,000 mobile phone transmissions frying your brains during the game as they struggle to make a connection.
This user liked this post: Rick_Muller

Bordeauxclaret
Posts: 10328
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:36 pm
Been Liked: 3342 times
Has Liked: 1964 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu May 11, 2017 8:58 pm

Man of Kent wrote:Think of all those 20,000 mobile phone transmissions frying your brains during the game as they struggle to make a connection.

I think krbfc takes them all for the team.
These 3 users liked this post: Rick_Muller PaintYorkClaretnBlue Sidney1st

claretblue
Posts: 6419
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:36 pm
Been Liked: 1835 times
Has Liked: 962 times
Location: cloud 9 since Dyche appointed

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by claretblue » Thu May 11, 2017 9:36 pm

'...You have 20000 smartphones all trying to pass data across a limited link...'

but I only want to see that Palace are losing! ;)

john'sroseyspecs
Posts: 1042
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2016 9:14 pm
Been Liked: 364 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by john'sroseyspecs » Thu May 11, 2017 9:42 pm

Can't believe nobody's said the Bob Lord.
These 3 users liked this post: Walton gawthorpe_view box_of_frogs

Jimmymaccer
Posts: 2139
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:18 am
Been Liked: 598 times
Has Liked: 196 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by Jimmymaccer » Thu May 11, 2017 10:07 pm

Appreciated I know sod all about wifi but at the Man City game away I was on the back row, top tier and watched most of the match on sky go via wifi!......no problem at all.

Bordeauxclaret
Posts: 10328
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:36 pm
Been Liked: 3342 times
Has Liked: 1964 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu May 11, 2017 10:27 pm

How did you manage that when it wasn't on TV?

Greeny
Posts: 142
Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2016 1:41 pm
Been Liked: 55 times
Has Liked: 20 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by Greeny » Thu May 11, 2017 11:05 pm

I am on the Three network. It's pretty useless signal wise in lots of places but strangely never a problem accessing apps before/during + after matches at the Turf.

criminalclaret
Posts: 701
Joined: Sat Mar 05, 2016 7:14 pm
Been Liked: 180 times
Has Liked: 72 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by criminalclaret » Thu May 11, 2017 11:11 pm

DCWat wrote:I'd happily pay for a connection if the club offered this. Surely it could be a decent money making scheme. If they can manage this for festivals etc. I'm not sure why more clubs aren't jumping on board.
When you go to grounds in more populated areas there is less of an issue, cell signals are distributed over more "cells" (masts) thus less subscribed/have more capacity and everyone's phone and data works relatively within usable limits.

Towns like Burnley will have less masts and thus come match day will be massively oversubscribed and have bottlenecks.

At festivals they bring in temporary masts to spread out bandwidth over a larger area. And generally these are brought in under sponsorship by said telecom company for publicity otherwise would costs a serious amount of money to put up temporarily, something which the club wouldn't be interested in doing for 3 hours or a Saturday.

I'd say WiFi for the 20,000 people is extremely is low down on the club's agenda.

Chobulous
Posts: 2132
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:27 am
Been Liked: 955 times
Has Liked: 11 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by Chobulous » Fri May 12, 2017 7:12 am

I'm usually watching the match
This user liked this post: Rick_Muller

claret wizard
Posts: 985
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:20 am
Been Liked: 264 times
Has Liked: 90 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by claret wizard » Fri May 12, 2017 8:09 am

I work for Cisco.

https://newsroom.cisco.com/press-releas ... Id=1181486" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

We've a stadium solution deployed by Man City and various other clubs. Look up Real Madrid and Cisco on YouTube.
This user liked this post: Rick_Muller

Rick_Muller
Posts: 6138
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:53 am
Been Liked: 2634 times
Has Liked: 6461 times
Location: -90.000000, 0.000000

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by Rick_Muller » Fri May 12, 2017 8:23 am

claret wizard wrote:I work for Cisco.

https://newsroom.cisco.com/press-releas ... Id=1181486" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

We've a stadium solution deployed by Man City and various other clubs. Look up Real Madrid and Cisco on YouTube.
nice article, but it begs the question about why people would go to the match and be focused on 4-5 inches of mobile phone screen. I guess I'm getting old...

LoveCurryPies
Posts: 4294
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:00 am
Been Liked: 1600 times
Has Liked: 679 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by LoveCurryPies » Fri May 12, 2017 9:13 am

Firstly 20,000 is an exaggeration. Not every man, woman and child wants to use a mobile phone at the match. But there might be a couple of thousand who enjoy (from time to time) checking other match scores and the league table positions. What's wrong with that?

I'm sure I will be trying to check other scores throughout the West Ham game. I don't do it constantly, usually half time or when the game is temporarily stopped through injury or substitution.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue
Posts: 1798
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:42 pm
Been Liked: 662 times
Has Liked: 1220 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Fri May 12, 2017 9:17 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:I think krbfc takes them all for the team.
It's not often that something on this board makes me actually laugh out loud but that did!!

PaintYorkClaretnBlue
Posts: 1798
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:42 pm
Been Liked: 662 times
Has Liked: 1220 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Fri May 12, 2017 9:19 am

I usually struggle on ee at half time and immediately after the game but last game it was all through it. I guess more people were checking the scores.

Steve1956
Posts: 17272
Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2016 1:57 pm
Been Liked: 6490 times
Has Liked: 2918 times
Location: Fife

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 12, 2017 9:27 am

When the CFS empties at the end of the game and there is only me left...it works fine!

Woodleyclaret
Posts: 6975
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:25 pm
Been Liked: 1490 times
Has Liked: 1848 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri May 12, 2017 9:42 am

're the guy watching on his phone.Maybe he couldn't see with people standing infront of him !

claret wizard
Posts: 985
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:20 am
Been Liked: 264 times
Has Liked: 90 times

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by claret wizard » Fri May 12, 2017 10:08 am

Rick_Muller wrote:nice article, but it begs the question about why people would go to the match and be focused on 4-5 inches of mobile phone screen. I guess I'm getting old...
It's not just about the user pulling information for them to consume, but also the push that the club can do to the fan. Offers, information, and of course the data that can be collected about the users. Those analytics are used by the clubs to learn more about their fan base and customers.

gawthorpe_view
Posts: 5095
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:19 am
Been Liked: 1357 times
Has Liked: 2939 times
Location: 'Turf

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by gawthorpe_view » Fri May 12, 2017 10:35 am

john'sroseyspecs wrote:Can't believe nobody's said the Bob Lord.
I think the correct term for the Bob Lord Stand is 'The Departure Lounge'.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Rick_Muller
Posts: 6138
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:53 am
Been Liked: 2634 times
Has Liked: 6461 times
Location: -90.000000, 0.000000

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by Rick_Muller » Fri May 12, 2017 11:17 am

claret wizard wrote:It's not just about the user pulling information for them to consume, but also the push that the club can do to the fan. Offers, information, and of course the data that can be collected about the users. Those analytics are used by the clubs to learn more about their fan base and customers.
Yeah, I get that about the data collection and how useful the info is to the club - big data is power these days and can leverage people in ways no one thought possible 10 years ago, and most of us dont realise we're being manipulated...

bobinho
Posts: 9330
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:48 pm
Been Liked: 4106 times
Has Liked: 6589 times
Location: Burnley

Re: The turf moor "dead zone"

Post by bobinho » Fri May 12, 2017 12:20 pm

Chobulous wrote:I'm usually watching the match
Not at half time and full time you're not.

Post Reply