Robertson and Maguire

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:16 am

only paper talk but look to be off to Liverpoo if it's to be believed
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... r-10415515

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Sun May 14, 2017 5:27 am

Never going to come to us, far too good. I don't know why fans with their collective heads in the sand kept spouting it as options.

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sun May 14, 2017 6:15 am

Its a pity we couldn't get Robertson in Jan but, as said above, he is prob now out of our reach as Liverpool are desparate for a left back
As for the likes of Muguire and Gibson - dream on !

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Sun May 14, 2017 6:58 am

every transfer window Lpool and Manure are linked with dozens of players and sign about 4. I can't see either of them two in red but they are at our level, in both ability and price.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun May 14, 2017 8:20 am

Are they foreign enough to sign for a top 5 club?

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Sun May 14, 2017 9:12 am

Why have fans got their heads buried in the sand when Robertson had all but signed for us in January?? It's all paper talk but certainly a realistic target. The better teams will have seen his great performances he has put in since January but they'll also have seen the couple of errors he's made and hulls subsequent relegation too.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun May 14, 2017 10:17 am

Would be great additions to our bench next season to keep the millions of pounds worth of midfield and attacking talent company

OffTheBar · Post by **OffTheBar** » Sun May 14, 2017 10:21 am

Why would Liverpool want Robertson when they already have Flanagan?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun May 14, 2017 10:56 am

They will probably flog Flanagan in the summer.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun May 14, 2017 10:58 am

Sidney1st wrote:They will probably flog Flanagan in the summer.

Hopefully, not to us.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun May 14, 2017 11:40 am

It's too late now.

ewanrob · Post by **ewanrob** » Sun May 14, 2017 12:28 pm

Both are nowhere near good enough for any of the top 4 clubs, decent players but only middle of the table standard.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun May 14, 2017 12:32 pm

ewanrob wrote:Both are nowhere near good enough for any of the top 4 clubs, decent players but only middle of the table standard.

I'm sure the same was said about Holden.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sun May 14, 2017 12:36 pm

I dispelled this as nothing more than paper talk, but Sky seem to think the Robertson deal is done and dusted. It seems a very odd signing for them, I thought they'd have their sights set much higher.

ewanrob · Post by **ewanrob** » Sun May 14, 2017 12:39 pm

Holden only there because of the lack of real quality at Arsenal...but a decent player without doubt.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:19 pm

Gibson to Arsenal

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ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun May 14, 2017 2:10 pm

We were very close to Robertson in January but once they pulled the plug I was led to believe that ship had sailed as far as we were concerned. I rate him and I like Maguire too. On today's showing though, I don't think many will want Dawson.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun May 14, 2017 2:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote:We were very close to Robertson in January but once they pulled the plug I was led to believe that ship had sailed as far as we were concerned. I rate him and I like Maguire too. On today's showing though, I don't think many will want Dawson.

Isn't Dawson too injury prone?

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sun May 14, 2017 2:57 pm

No Spijed... he's just not very good any more.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun May 14, 2017 3:01 pm

Dawson no better than Tarks.

Although I accept we are going to have to get some more back men in the squad.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun May 14, 2017 3:26 pm

Robertson was rubbish today

SparkyClaret · Post by **SparkyClaret** » Sun May 14, 2017 4:02 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Robertson was rubbish today

A bit harsh that. Thought he played alright. Played a lovely ball through in the first half. Other than that was a pretty standard outing.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun May 14, 2017 4:09 pm

Like Keane they'll both have a year out.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun May 14, 2017 4:16 pm

SparkyClaret wrote:A bit harsh that. Thought he played alright. Played a lovely ball through in the first half. Other than that was a pretty standard outing.

not for me, he was subbed off cause he offered nothing

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sun May 14, 2017 4:37 pm

Rather have Davies than Dawson.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun May 14, 2017 4:42 pm

Protecting his vertebrae like our away boys.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sun May 14, 2017 6:14 pm

I'd prefer Grosicki if we are plundering Hull. I think he's proven he's good enough for the league and is prepared to run all day long.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun May 14, 2017 7:03 pm

Clucas looks pretty good to me.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Sun May 14, 2017 8:47 pm

Sam Clucas I feel will be a claret next season, a good fit for Dyche and Burnley

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun May 14, 2017 9:01 pm

I agree with Clucas. Id take Huddlestone and Hernandez too tbh

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon May 15, 2017 10:25 am

Vegas Claret wrote:not for me, he was subbed off cause he offered nothing

He got injured just before half time, that was why Robertson was substituted.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Mon May 15, 2017 10:30 am

I've always thought that Curtis Davies would end up at Burnley. Would be a good addition to the ranks.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon May 15, 2017 1:28 pm

Always been a tad doubtful about whether Robertson is really good enough defensively for a team that spend a hell of a lot of time without the ball. My impression is that he's a bit prone in that department, although he's only young and I haven't seen that much of him. But it does leave me less disappointed if he's out of range than I might otherwise be. Maguire always seemed a bit unrealistic.

I tend to agree that Hull have a few other players who are interesting. Clucas is definitely one - we have a clear vacancy for a left footed midfielder capable of playing centrally or in a narrow wide position in a midfield 4, and he'd be top of my list (ahead of Cairney, amongst others). Curtis Davies is 32 now, but if we have any doubts over Tarkowski he's a seasoned premier league centre back. Niasse isn't their player but he's an obvious candidate as a replacement for Gray should he go.

The other player who looks to me very much in the Dyche mould is David Meyler, a really good no nonsense central midfielder who could be a really cost effective alternative to Westwood in midfield, and who has the flexibility to operate at right back too.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Mon May 15, 2017 1:44 pm

Clucas is also a pretty solid left back, and played opposite Tendayi there when Dan Jones was out with a long injury. Obviously he's better going forward as a wing back than as a defender in a back 4.

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Mon May 15, 2017 7:06 pm

Let's take the entire Hull first eleven and get relegated, just like they did...

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon May 15, 2017 7:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:He got injured just before half time, that was why Robertson was substituted.

maybe, doesn't alter the fact that his contribution was zero in the first half

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Mon May 15, 2017 8:33 pm

Agree with the Curtis Davies shout. Seems like he has a good personality too.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon May 15, 2017 9:33 pm

kaptin1 wrote:Let's take the entire Hull first eleven and get relegated, just like they did...

I don't think anyone is suggesting that. But Hull havent gone down because every player in their ranks isnt up to the job - any more than Heaton and Mee and Ings weren't up to the job because we went down two years ago. At the end of the day the difference between surviving and going down relegation is one of fine margins.

They have a nucleus of players who in the right system could be a real asset in the Premier League. Theyre players who its realistic for us to aspire to sign. So mp harm in talking about it.

Curtis Davies, Meyler, Maguire, Robertson, Clucas and Niasse are potentially in that bracket. Huddlestone probably is too, but he doesn't really suit our system.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon May 15, 2017 9:41 pm

KRBFC wrote:I agree with Clucas. Id take Huddlestone and Hernandez too tbh

You'd take their 'Kingston Upon' , the river, their crappy colours and their saviour of a manager..........

Because you are know nothing Dirk Borgarde.

KippaxFifaHD · Post by **KippaxFifaHD** » Mon May 15, 2017 9:55 pm

What about Grosicki? Are we still interested in him? I'd be happy to see either him or Markivic at the Turf next season

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Mon May 15, 2017 10:00 pm

claretspice wrote: The other player who looks to me very much in the Dyche mould is David Meyler, a really good no nonsense central midfielder who could be a really cost effective alternative to Westwood in midfield, and who has the flexibility to operate at right back too.

Why don't we just play in green? Don't mind him myself TBH

kaptin1 · Post by **kaptin1** » Mon May 15, 2017 10:04 pm

claretspice wrote:I don't think anyone is suggesting that. But Hull havent gone down because every player in their ranks isnt up to the job - any more than Heaton and Mee and Ings weren't up to the job because we went down two years ago. At the end of the day the difference between surviving and going down relegation is one of fine margins.

They have a nucleus of players who in the right system could be a real asset in the Premier League. Theyre players who its realistic for us to aspire to sign. So mp harm in talking about it.

Curtis Davies, Meyler, Maguire, Robertson, Clucas and Niasse are potentially in that bracket. Huddlestone probably is too, but he doesn't really suit our system.

Ok, I stand corrected, it looks like we don't want the goalkeeper. He probably doesn't fit into our system though...

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon May 15, 2017 10:07 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:maybe, doesn't alter the fact that his contribution was zero in the first half

You said he was subbed because of his performance. He wasn't, he was substituted because of an injury.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Mon May 15, 2017 10:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:He got injured just before half time, that was why Robertson was substituted.

He looked like he had a cut to the back of his head from the earlier incident when he was accidentally kicked, though I must say he only played one decent ball and had an habit of getting caught out up front when Palace where breaking forward. One game however does not make a season.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Mon May 15, 2017 10:10 pm

kaptin1 wrote:Ok, I stand corrected, it looks like we don't want the goalkeeper. He probably doesn't fit into our system though...

Joking aside, the two keepers have been the biggest difference between burnley and Hull this season and probably accounts for a 6 point swing. So you night be onto something.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Mon May 15, 2017 11:04 pm

If Liverpool sign maguire they won't need Keane..!

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon May 15, 2017 11:40 pm

I'll leave it to our Ginger Miraculous One.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Tue May 16, 2017 1:15 pm

scouseclaret wrote:If Liverpool sign maguire they won't need Keane..!

I think if Liverpool sign Maguire we will get six points against them next season

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Tue May 16, 2017 1:20 pm

Maguire can't be Keanes replacement as he looks cumbersome to me as does Tarks a bit but Tarks is not fully match fit and is 12.765r times more skilful than Maguire.
Robertson had his chance
So no on both

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Tue May 16, 2017 2:17 pm

Was it Meyler who Pearson shoved over during a game? Bit wet for us he didn't push him back!