Will we get back what we paid for Defour?

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun May 14, 2017 12:59 pm

He's only 29 and while he hasn't played much this season, he's shown glimpses of his quality. Not to mention he's a Belgian international.

Do you think we're looking at a loss or can we get back what we paid for him?

Of course, this is all assuming he goes (which it seems likely he will).

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:01 pm

you remember how much we sold Wayne Thomas for ? There'll be no loses !!!

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:you remember how much we sold Wayne Thomas for ? There'll be no loses !!!

Wayne Thomas is one of the best bits of business we've ever done. Then again, we did pay 1.5mil for Leon Cort

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:03 pm

I think it's likely he'll be toddling off. Such a shame but I think there's a lot we may never know about his time with us. Poor attitude, chain smoking etc..

I'd say anything over £5million would be a bonus, not sure why but I can see him at Newcastle! In which case pull their pants down for a profit!

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:04 pm

IndigoLake wrote:He's only 29 and while he hasn't played much this season, he's shown glimpses of his quality. Not to mention he's a Belgian international.

Do you think we're looking at a loss or can we get back what we paid for him?

Of course, this is all assuming he goes (which it seems likely he will).

I imagine he's been counting down the days for quite a while now.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:06 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:I think it's likely he'll be toddling off. Such a shame but I think there's a lot we may never know about his time with us. Poor attitude, chain smoking etc..

I'd say anything over £5million would be a bonus, not sure why but I can see him at Newcastle! In which case pull their pants down for a profit!

You'd hope we'll get a decent offer if he's indeed keen on going abroad to China or wherever. Some of those clubs are spending big money these days. But yes, would be nice to recover at least some of the fee!

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:06 pm

IndigoLake wrote:Wayne Thomas is one of the best bits of business we've ever done. Then again, we did pay 1.5mil for Leon Cort

Dont forget only this season we managed to get Bham to cough up some cash for Juke but to be fair weve gone on to see what idiots that set of owners are

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:07 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:I imagine he's been counting down the days for quite a while now.

Yes, I get that impression as well. I trust Dyche on this one but it's hard to say how much it's down to Defour not impressing and how much it's down to Dyche being stubborn.

Jambounchained · Post by **Jambounchained** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:08 pm

Be flabbergasted if he stayed in England. I doubt he's really impressed anyone here.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:10 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Dont forget only this season we managed to get Bham to cough up some cash for Juke but to be fair weve gone on to see what idiots that set of owners are

To be fair to Juke, he did score 11 league goals for them this season. Hardly prolific but his goals seemed to dry up with the ridiculous change of managers. He'll do well for them going forward, in my opinion (well, if they can sort their shizzle).

what_no_pies · Post by **what_no_pies** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:14 pm

We've already got our money back for him since he helped us stay in the league.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:18 pm

If his argent is touting him round China we could double our money.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun May 14, 2017 1:19 pm

Thats only true if you believe we would have gone down without him and with the alternative player(s) we spent the 8m on instead.

By your logic if we'd paid Liverpool a £15m loan fee for Flanagan we would have got our money back just by staying up

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Sun May 14, 2017 2:01 pm

Jambounchained wrote:Be flabbergasted if he stayed in England. I doubt he's really impressed anyone here.

well, he's impressed all of us, and we're as tough a crowd as you'll get....... and we only saw glimpses of his capabilities.

To the earlier post regarding him or Dyche's stubbornness - if he IS a smoker, never mind chain-smoker, I honestly can't see Dyche letting him get away with that as it compromises his stance on fitness and diet. I'm just realizing this, but if true I'd stand by Dyche on this, which is a material shift in my own position in witnessing the waste of such a player.

If he doesn't smoke, then I don't know what to say anymore.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun May 14, 2017 2:07 pm

Very good player.

Dunno why, but it just hasn't worked out.

I'm with SD on this. Whatever he decides is good enough for me. He's earned that.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sun May 14, 2017 2:15 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:I imagine he's been counting down the days for quite a while now.

Yes, from approximately last August.

keith1879 · Post by **keith1879** » Sun May 14, 2017 3:10 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Thats only true if you believe we would have gone down without him and with the alternative player(s) we spent the 8m on instead.

By your logic if we'd paid Liverpool a £15m loan fee for Flanagan we would have got our money back just by staying up

Defour played a part in some key goals at the start of thes season ... without some of those early points we would quite possibly be down. Flanagan??

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun May 14, 2017 3:14 pm

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Mon May 15, 2017 7:56 am

Will be sorry to see him go and I'm sorry we didn't see more of him. Much too good of a player to be sat on Burnley's bench in my opinion. When not been deployed on the wing, he was excellent for us, outstanding ability and plenty of effort too. Unfortunately not just an SD type player. If we don't recoup our money, it will only because he has not been in the shop window.

Good luck to him.

P.S.I don't believe that bo**ocks in a Belgian rag recently.

what_no_pies · Post by **what_no_pies** » Mon May 15, 2017 8:50 am

Devils_Advocate wrote:Thats only true if you believe we would have gone down without him and with the alternative player(s) we spent the 8m on instead.

By your logic if we'd paid Liverpool a £15m loan fee for Flanagan we would have got our money back just by staying up

Defour helped us pick up early points and much needed confidence. His signing was a statement of intent and caused a frenzy amongst the supporters. It drove great er competition for places which undoubtedly lifts other players levels (I could go on but surely you get it).

Nobody could accurately assert our league position without him, but we had him and he contributed towards our target of survival so his (actually fairly modest) transfer fee has already been paid back twice over.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon May 15, 2017 9:16 am

He has two years left on his contract and we're not going to be in a situation where we are desperate for money so we don't have to accept any lowball offers.

Selby Claret · Post by **Selby Claret** » Mon May 15, 2017 9:26 am

He had absolutely no interest in being at the dinner last night and sloped off long before all the other players.

He was best dressed though in a lovely bow tie

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Mon May 15, 2017 9:45 am

If he's a chain-smoker then surely that would mean he'd have to smoke during games, and I think we'd notice.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Mon May 15, 2017 9:50 am

Stan Tastic wrote:If he's a chain-smoker then surely that would mean he'd have to smoke during games, and I think we'd notice.

Gasping by the 53rd minute of matches apparently!!

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon May 15, 2017 9:54 am

We will get our money back, title winner, captain material, European experience and international player.

Some people probably hope we don't get our money back so they can complain about it.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Mon May 15, 2017 10:36 am

Hopefully.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Mon May 15, 2017 11:02 am

Yes we will. One handy bi-product of staying in the Premier League is that the value of our players tend to go up.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon May 15, 2017 11:30 am

Selby Claret wrote:He had absolutely no interest in being at the dinner last night and sloped off long before all the other players.

He was best dressed though in a lovely bow tie

With a WAG like he has waiting at home, I think I'd make an excuse and leave early. Frickety-frack, oh yes.

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Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Mon May 15, 2017 12:07 pm

Except that's not his missus....

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon May 15, 2017 12:12 pm

I can honestly see someone like Brighton paying 10m for him. And I think he would be more suited down there than up here.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon May 15, 2017 12:16 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:I think it's likely he'll be toddling off. Such a shame but I think there's a lot we may never know about his time with us. Poor attitude, chain smoking etc..

I'd say anything over £5million would be a bonus, not sure why but I can see him at Newcastle! In which case pull their pants down for a profit!

you say "a lot we may never know about him" ..then refer to his poor attitude and chain smoking !!

where has that come from ?

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Mon May 15, 2017 12:52 pm

I meant there's a lot of tittle-tattle surrounding him, rumours if you like, but its all unsubstantiated so we may never know the real facts. I've heard from several people that he is a heavy smoker and we've all heard the rumours that he prefers to train alone. Who knows what's true or not.

Apparently he was the first player to leave last night.

There may be more to him and his character than not just fitting Dyches framework.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon May 15, 2017 12:53 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:Except that's not his missus....

POTY awards is pretty good cover story to tell the missus for being out all night tho

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Mon May 15, 2017 1:25 pm

After a pre-season under Dyche he will either be worth £10m or sure he wants to leave

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