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Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 18, 2017 12:58 pm

Three year contract and £115,000 a week offer on the table...the world has gone mad. :roll:

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Sidney1st » Thu May 18, 2017 12:59 pm

He was only on £60-70k at Sunderland.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu May 18, 2017 1:01 pm

About right for a player of his stature, though 3 years for a 34 year old is a long time.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 18, 2017 1:01 pm

He's 35 Sid

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 18, 2017 1:02 pm

Bournemouth I mean paying wages like that,it will end in tears.
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by WestMidsClaret » Thu May 18, 2017 1:02 pm

Didn't he score in something like 11/12 consecutive games for them whilst on loan from West Ham way back when?!

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Jambounchained » Thu May 18, 2017 1:07 pm

Plucky little Bournemouth.
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by mkmel » Thu May 18, 2017 1:08 pm

He's 35 in 5 months time.
Apparently they are also in for John Terry at £100K a week

Little old Bournemouth hey?

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Selby Claret » Thu May 18, 2017 1:11 pm

mkmel wrote:He's 35 in 5 months time.
Apparently they are also in for John Terry at £100K a week

Little old Bournemouth hey?
If they sign Terry and Defoe they will definitely be 'Old' Bournemouth
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by aggi » Thu May 18, 2017 1:12 pm

The thing is, given the current TV deal, paying that to your star player, and other wages lower but in line with that, should see you breaking even.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by RingoMcCartney » Thu May 18, 2017 1:13 pm

There's no transfer fee involved he's on a free. So that helps.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 18, 2017 1:14 pm

I would be horrified and quite alarmed if we offered money like that to players at the end of their careers it's frankly ******* madness!The cash cow that is the premier league will not always be the gift that keeps giving it will all blow up in their faces ....hopefully we come out of it unscathed
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 18, 2017 1:15 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:There's no transfer fee involved he's on a free. So that helps.
Just £460,000 a month to find then!
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by RingoMcCartney » Thu May 18, 2017 1:15 pm

There's no transfer fee involved he's on a free. So that helps.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by lakesclaret » Thu May 18, 2017 1:15 pm

Oh dear,though I wish em well this really could end in tears. This kind of money for players with a club on 12k gates and low market interest,could end in a hideous crash and burn scenario with nothing left to show for it 3yrs down the line except a half eaten pack of garibaldis and a large pile of heavily soiled underwear (left in haste by the players,directors and tea lady when the bailiffs arrive)

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Thu May 18, 2017 1:16 pm

This season our average weekly wage 18K
Bournemouth next lowest at 21K.

Hull & Boro - 23K.
Swansea 27K.
Watford 29K.
West Brom 35 K.
Sunderland & Stoke - 36K.
Palace 37K.
Saints 39K.
Leicester 40K.
Everton 41K.
West Ham 43 K.
Spurs 51K.
Liverpool 57K.
Arsenal 71K.
Chelsea 86 K.
Man City 104K.
Man Utd 110K.
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Sidney1st » Thu May 18, 2017 1:16 pm

He apparently wants a £6 million signing on fee too according to one report...

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 42006.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So big wages and a fee of sorts.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Dyched » Thu May 18, 2017 1:29 pm

If we sign a player for £12m this summer and offer £35,000 a week on a 3 year deal are we going to see the same over reacting on here?!

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 18, 2017 1:31 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:This season our average weekly wage 18K
Bournemouth next lowest at 21K.

Hull & Boro - 23K.
Swansea 27K.
Watford 29K.
West Brom 35 K.
Sunderland & Stoke - 36K.
Palace 37K.
Saints 39K.
Leicester 40K.
Everton 41K.
West Ham 43 K.
Spurs 51K.
Liverpool 57K.
Arsenal 71K.
Chelsea 86 K.
Man City 104K.
Man Utd 110K.
West Ham 43k eeeeekkkkkkk

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 18, 2017 1:33 pm

Dyched wrote:If we sign a player for £12m this summer and offer £35,000 a week on a 3 year deal are we going to see the same over reacting on here?!
How is it an overreaction mate....it's obscene,they are kicking a bag of wind around, shouldn't we be paying proper people like nurses these amounts of money instead...lifesavers!
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by quoonbeatz » Thu May 18, 2017 1:34 pm

Dyched wrote:If we sign a player for £12m this summer and offer £35,000 a week on a 3 year deal are we going to see the same over reacting on here?!
doubt it seeing as we've already got one.
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Thu May 18, 2017 1:34 pm

Dyched wrote:If we sign a player for £12m this summer and offer £35,000 a week on a 3 year deal are we going to see the same over reacting on here?!
It depends on who the player is.

If it's Derek Riordan then most definitely.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by BertiesBeehole » Thu May 18, 2017 1:34 pm

Dyched - if they have no resale value then probably

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Dyched » Thu May 18, 2017 1:38 pm

Steve1956 wrote:How is it an overreaction mate....it's obscene,they are kicking a bag of wind around, shouldn't we be paying proper people like nurses these amounts of money instead...lifesavers!
Talking in football terms it's not that much considering there is no transfer fee. Bringing nurses into this is irrelevant.
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 18, 2017 1:40 pm

Dyched wrote:Talking in football terms it's not that much considering there is no transfer fee. Bringing nurses into this is irrelevant.
Nurses irrelevant..ok ...hope you never need one pal.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Sidney1st » Thu May 18, 2017 1:42 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Nurses irrelevant..ok ...hope you never need one pal.
To this conversation yes.

It isn't a chat about how much footballers are paid compared to nurses/everyone else.

Climb on your high horse if you want, but you'll just look a bit daft.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Dyched » Thu May 18, 2017 1:43 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Nurses irrelevant..ok ...hope you never need one pal.
To this thread....not the world.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by dpinsussex » Thu May 18, 2017 1:47 pm

Steve1956 wrote:How is it an overreaction mate....it's obscene,they are kicking a bag of wind around, shouldn't we be paying proper people like nurses these amounts of money instead...lifesavers!
Not as much fun watching "proper people"

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Thu May 18, 2017 1:47 pm

I think we already know it's a twisted society we live in with regard to weekly wages. As long as we don't assume people's worth is reflected by the amount of money they earn.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 18, 2017 1:50 pm

We must have got past the point of arguing wages are ridiculus? We have been saying it for 25 years.

It is probably the market rate for a natural goalscorer and they will have to beat off competition to sign him. Just like we would have to pay players more wages than any other club that wants them.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 18, 2017 1:54 pm

Ok guys I apologise my bad ...sorry ;)

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by KRBFC » Thu May 18, 2017 1:58 pm

Steve1956 wrote:How is it an overreaction mate....it's obscene,they are kicking a bag of wind around, shouldn't we be paying proper people like nurses these amounts of money instead...lifesavers!
Hahahahhaha hilarious.
Why should Bournemouth's millionaire owner pay nurses £115k p/w?

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by KRBFC » Thu May 18, 2017 1:59 pm

Dyched wrote:If we sign a player for £12m this summer and offer £35,000 a week on a 3 year deal are we going to see the same over reacting on here?!
This, post of the year.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Hipper » Thu May 18, 2017 2:50 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:This season our average weekly wage 18K
Bournemouth next lowest at 21K.

Hull & Boro - 23K.
Swansea 27K.
Watford 29K.
West Brom 35 K.
Sunderland & Stoke - 36K.
Palace 37K.
Saints 39K.
Leicester 40K.
Everton 41K.
West Ham 43 K.
Spurs 51K.
Liverpool 57K.
Arsenal 71K.
Chelsea 86 K.
Man City 104K.
Man Utd 110K.
If these are facts then I award Pochettino Manager of the Year with Dyche and Howe joint second.
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Thu May 18, 2017 2:57 pm

Hipper wrote:If these are facts then I award Pochettino Manager of the Year with Dyche and Howe joint second.
Depends if you believe what national tabloids print.

http://www.express.co.uk/pictures/sport ... tgalleries" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Was published in November so may have been affected significantly by January window.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by minnieclaret » Thu May 18, 2017 3:00 pm

Are those average salaries based on the 25 man PL squad or the total of all players?
The likes of Manure and Chelsea have upwards of 80 players on the books.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Royboyclaret » Thu May 18, 2017 3:17 pm

Those figures were provided by GSSS (Global Sports Salaries Survey).

They are at best suspect and highly misleading when trying to establish the respective total Wage bill at each of the clubs.

For example we now know that Bournemouth's Wage bill for last season was £60m compared to our £27m (before bonuses).

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by lucs86 » Thu May 18, 2017 3:20 pm

Dyched wrote:If we sign a player for £12m this summer and offer £35,000 a week on a 3 year deal are we going to see the same over reacting on here?!
If he's almost 35, yes.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by NickBFC » Thu May 18, 2017 3:24 pm

Dyched wrote:If we sign a player for £12m this summer and offer £35,000 a week on a 3 year deal are we going to see the same over reacting on here?!
If they were approaching 35, then yes. If they're approaching their prime etc then it's (very) sound business.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by claretdom » Thu May 18, 2017 3:25 pm

lucs86 wrote:If he's almost 35, yes.


Don't be too surprised some on here think signing someone who will be 38 by the end of his contract is exactly the same as paying for someone far younger with a sell on value.

Negredo was a bargain this season at 100k a week plus a signing on fee in some eyes. Ignoring relegation, the money has been done and nothing to show for it and you still need to spend to sign a goalscorer is exactly the same as us signing Gray for a fee.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Dyched » Thu May 18, 2017 3:35 pm

claretdom wrote:Don't be too surprised some on here think signing someone who will be 38 by the end of his contract is exactly the same as paying for someone far younger with a sell on value.
Why has the football world got this notion about young players getting better and worth more. Bournemouth will know exactly what their getting with Defoe. Some people would be happy spending that money on a 17 year old with the footballing ability of goldfish. "Ah it's alright he'll get better"
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Sutton-Claret » Thu May 18, 2017 3:38 pm

Steve1956 wrote:Three year contract and £115,000 a week offer on the table...the world has gone mad. :roll:
Thought exactly the same when I saw it - then I noticed in was from 'The Sun'....

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu May 18, 2017 3:56 pm

By getting back in the England squad even at his age, it's saying he his probably better than the younger players available for the likes of us and B'mouth.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by IanMcL » Thu May 18, 2017 4:23 pm

mkmel wrote:He's 35 in 5 months time.
Apparently they are also in for John Terry at £100K a week

Little old Bournemouth hey?
Very un-Howelike given that he would not play Grezza owing to age/reducing team age profile etc!

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu May 18, 2017 4:35 pm

Howe was very lucky that the family issues that caused him to leave us coincided almost exactly with the vast influx of cash at Bournemouth. Uncanny.
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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Steve1956 » Thu May 18, 2017 4:47 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Howe was very lucky that the family issues that caused him to leave us coincided almost exactly with the vast influx of cash at Bournemouth. Uncanny.
Ummmm interesting .......maybe he was tapped up Horseface like.....2 Judas...Shocking!

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Blackrod » Thu May 18, 2017 5:00 pm

As long as the owner doesn't pop off, they don't get relegated and Defoe doesn't get injured early on it should be fine. I really hope we don't adopt that model though. This has got Blackburn or Bolton written all over it.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu May 18, 2017 5:01 pm

It's stupid money for someone of his age, that will probably only be a bit part player as well.
There's no way you would play him ahead of Josh King or maybe even Afobe.
A good player to come on and nick a chance, but you don't pay that kind of money for that kind of player.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by COBBLE » Thu May 18, 2017 5:05 pm

This is a gamble I am delighted for Bournemouth to take. Post 48 says how it will most likely be.

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Re: Bournemouth/Defoe

Post by Royboyclaret » Thu May 18, 2017 5:10 pm

People need to read and understand aggi's post #10.

Bournemouth are no longer reliant on their billionaire owner ploughing vast amounts into the club. Income from the PL/TV deal is now sufficient to allow the club to break even whilst paying a limited number of players high wages.

It's not the Burnley way but is still the chosen method of most clubs in a their bid to ensure PL membership.

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