Breaking News Manchester Evening News Arena Explosions

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Tue May 23, 2017 9:45 am

Rip to all those children and families affected horrible world we live in at times.. And the big moan on here this week was / is about kids enjoying themselves on the pitch. Puts it all in to perspective doesn't it really. R.i.p to all those affected.

MRG · Post by **MRG** » Tue May 23, 2017 9:47 am

I'm a big boy boiledclaret, I'm capable of dealing with keyboard warriors however I second that, c+j is a great poster to this forum.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:00 am

WestMidsClaret wrote:Well that bobby needs to seriously look at themselves giving out such information to anyone and surely it's against regulations!

Back to the more important discussion this is truly barbaric and cowardly i mean its children ffs! Revenge for the three girls docu-film!? It shouldn't happen to anyone ever but aiming it at kids is pure evil!

PS Aaron glad everyone is ok mate.

Cheers Stu. The thing that keeps going through my head was that they said they were stood initially right next to where the blast happened. It could have been so different. People sharing photos of loved ones breaks my heart. How can people be so evil? These are innocent kids without a care in the world. How do parents and teachers explain to their friends the sick reasoning behind this? Utter pathetic which is going to take a lot more of a hashtag to solve.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:04 am

Glad they are ok Gandhisflipflop! Terrible tragedy!

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:09 am

I've got a friend who lives in a flat next to the MEN arena. He said the building shook with the force of the explosion. Gives you an idea of the power of these things. Sad and scary really.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:11 am

Thoughts with the parents and kids affected, don't like to imagine what it's like. Great response from the good folk of Manchester.

There'll be no end to this, it's always happened for some warped reason or other and always will.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:15 am

As I went to bed last night there hadn't been much confirmed, but waking this morning to see that 22 people had died with many injured really got me.

Just knowing that a lot of those killed will be young kids who've just had the time of their lives, with exciting lives ahead of them, and their parents will be around about my age, it got me really emotional.

It's so close to home. My daughter is going on 13 and has been going to gigs like this as birthday/christmas presents for a few years. I couldn't handle her being taken away from me, let alone by a sick ******* who would murder her in such a way.

I feel sick thinking about it, the worry of those whose kids haven't been reported safe, and I'm devastated for the families of those whose lives have been taken or are injured. Even just being there will stay with those lucky enough to be unhurt.

One glimmer which came from this was how local people reacted, from the hotels opening their doors to act as meeting/safe points to taxi drivers travelling from miles around to offer free rides home.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:27 am

just been reading the M.E.N thread.
PLEASE folks don't change your life in anyway. To do so is letting these turds win.
Be vigilant but carry on as normal. Life is too short to live in fear.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:29 am

Police cuts seriously hindering the surveillance of thousands of terrorist suspects as we speak.

Similarly with NHS cuts resulting in even more pressure on our already over worked health workers,

We have a General Election on June the 8th so vote this lot responsible for the above out...and keep them out.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:30 am

Crikey! Put BBC News on and it's being broadcast from outside my son's flat.

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:32 am

It's catch 22 whereas you can't let these nobheads win BUT we should do all we can to keep our loved ones safe. I don't know what the answer is. I don't live in fear but I wouldn't want to put my family in harm's way.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:32 am

South West Claret. wrote:Police cuts seriously hindering the surveillance of thousands of terrorist suspects as we speak.

Similarly with NHS cuts resulting in even more pressure on our already over worked health workers,

We have a General Election on June the 8th so vote this lot responsible for the above out...and keep them out.

Really?..... a party political broadcast on here?
Give it a rest.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:33 am

We can't do it alone unfortunately.

The whole of UK society needs to step up, regardless of colour, ethnicity or religious leanings, EVERYONE needs to pull together.

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:33 am

quite true...you are far more likely to get killed on the roads than in a terrorist attack...and you will always go on the roads wont you ?...dont let them win....r.i.p to all the victims and hope the organisation( if it is an organisation ) are sitting there as proud as punch for targeting children....sickens me to the core.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:36 am

South West Claret. wrote:Police cuts seriously hindering the surveillance of thousands of terrorist suspects as we speak.

Similarly with NHS cuts resulting in even more pressure on our already over worked health workers,

We have a General Election on June the 8th so vote this lot responsible for the above out...and keep them out.

Really???

The politicians are taking a day off campaigning, I suggest you do too.

Rest in peace and thoughts to the families and friends of all those involved.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:41 am

Taking the missus and kids to London next weekend, can't wait. We'll all be off on our hols this summer and going to concerts, festivals.

If something does happen, I hope that wouldn't stop anyone else going the week after. We're all going to die one day, I'm not hiding in my bedroom until then.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:41 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Remember the other week when you were laughing at me for being concerned about terrorism when I travel to Manchester/London at busy times?

I'll still laugh at you for being too frightened to move.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:45 am

Walton wrote:As I went to bed last night there hadn't been much confirmed, but waking this morning to see that 22 people had died with many injured really got me.

Just knowing that a lot of those killed will be young kids who've just had the time of their lives, with exciting lives ahead of them, and their parents will be around about my age, it got me really emotional.

It's so close to home. My daughter is going on 13 and has been going to gigs like this as birthday/christmas presents for a few years. I couldn't handle her being taken away from me, let alone by a sick ******* who would murder her in such a way.

I feel sick thinking about it, the worry of those whose kids haven't been reported safe, and I'm devastated for the families of those whose lives have been taken or are injured. Even just being there will stay with those lucky enough to be unhurt.

One glimmer which came from this was how local people reacted, from the hotels opening their doors to act as meeting/safe points to taxi drivers travelling from miles around to offer free rides home.

All I hope for those that have perished is that their very last moments were of joy, happiness and laughter and that this coward didn't have any satisfaction of seeing their fear.

I reckon on being a fairly tough Northerner from the outside, but the thought of anyone targeting children really really sickens me.

Rest in Peace little ones.

AndrewJB · Post by **AndrewJB** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:46 am

Pulling together is a natural consequence of tragic events such as this.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 23, 2017 10:53 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:No, you let them win by keep allowing them to murder us.

I've got absolutely no doubt that if this does turn out to be an Islamist attack you and people like you will be giving these bastards exactly what they want.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 23, 2017 11:29 am

There's never a bad time to suggest giving blood.

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South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:11 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:Really???

The politicians are taking a day off campaigning, I suggest you do too.

Rest in peace and thoughts to the families and friends of all those involved.

Yes Really.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:16 pm

inappropriate comment deleted.

Sid

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:21 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Labour started this current mess though, so are you saying people should vote to keep them out?

I suppose it has been over 12 hours so i guess it's time to learn how this is the fault of the left.

taio · Post by **taio** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:24 pm

Please let's not turn this barbaric, evilness into a political discussion about the rights and wrongs of Conservative/Labour policy.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:27 pm

Turtle and Southwest Claret can't help themselves. It's in their DNA.

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:27 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Police cuts seriously hindering the surveillance of thousands of terrorist suspects as we speak.

Similarly with NHS cuts resulting in even more pressure on our already over worked health workers,

We have a General Election on June the 8th so vote this lot responsible for the above out...and keep them out.

Sick.
Scoring political points on a day like this you should be ashamed

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:31 pm

Twitter is currently going into dickhead overdrive. Anyone who feels the need to to can go and join in on there.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:33 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Yes Really.

Not really the time or place you tosser.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:35 pm

taio wrote:Please let's not turn this barbaric, evilness into a political discussion about the rights and wrongs of Conservative/Labour policy.

I applaud your optimism.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:39 pm

Vino blanco wrote:Turtle and Southwest Claret can't help themselves. It's in their DNA.

It's almost as if you didn't have to read my post, and so didn't.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:41 pm

Likely a very tenuous theory and more probable that it was in the planning for a long time, but I wonder if the 'Three Girls' programme could have had any influence in targeting such an event. Assuming of course that this is an Islamist attack.

Some of the stories of people on five live from the scene are bloody awful. At the same time they show both an amazing amount of courage and the very best side of human nature, to counteract the very worst.

How the hell this sort of thing can be stopped, God only knows.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:46 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Twitter is currently going into dickhead overdrive. Anyone who feels the need to to can go and join in on there.

Facebook memes also for those even further down the IQ scale

taio · Post by **taio** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:46 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I applaud your optimism.

Not optimism but more of a polite request. But there will be a small handful who wont be able to help themselves trying to turn it into a Tory vs Labour rant.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:53 pm

I think if you are going to try to link a tv show to this, then Channel 4 had a far more relevant one on from the historian Tom Holland on ISIS.

Not that I think its linked, these numpties will do this whatever we do.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:57 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:I think if you are going to try to link a tv show to this, then Channel 4 had a far more relevant one on from the historian Tom Holland on ISIS.

Not that I think its linked, these numpties will do this whatever we do.

More an off the cuff thought than an assumed link, Lancaster but yes, likely they will do it whatever. I missed the Tom Holland programme - was it throwing up some controversial historical issues / causes?

claret3561 · Post by **claret3561** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:58 pm

Shocked and horrified doesn't even come close to my feelings about last nights attack, but to come on here this morning to read groups of people trying to point score against each other makes me numb, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 12:59 pm

Its on my watchlist for this week! But he's been defending it on twitter and its been well received as its apparently a bit difficult to watch and does pose interesting questions that a lot of people don't want to answer.

I'm going to try and catch up with it tonight.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:00 pm

Armed police in Fallowfield now, according to a video on Twitter.

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bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:01 pm

I cannot comprehend the anguish and grief these poor parents of the dead injured and missing are going through, I worry when mine have a cold. I just feel numb, we have all been there or similar crowded venues. I cant feel angry at the moment I just despair that someone is so warped that they think their "god" needs little girls killing to prove how great their "god" is. Surely it is now time to reopen/build more secure psychiatric hospitals and start sectioning people who believe similar. Once there is adequate suspicion, don't wait while they have a bag of knives or go into the diy store section them.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:07 pm

What I worry about now is that is there a stage where the people who do this will say "Nope, we can't do that"?

I don't think there is, so try to imagine the worst possible thing a suicide bomber could do and then realise that its going to happen in your lifetime.

hampsteadclaret · Post by **hampsteadclaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:31 pm

173..

Disappointed in that one Sidney no need.

**one of the dead children is only 8 years old. RIP

Zesty · Post by **Zesty** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:34 pm

Anybody 'known to police' or at all linked with terrorism offences should be deported or locked up. There should be no tolerance at all.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:36 pm

hampsteadclaret wrote:173..

Disappointed in that one Sidney no need.

**one of the dead children is only 8 years old. RIP

I know there wasn't and I apologise for that comment.
I was just hacked off with the comment I was referring too and I'll delete mine.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Tue May 23, 2017 1:52 pm

I know hatred doesn't do any good but I certainly hate these evil s c u m
Deliberately targeting and killing innocent young children
How low can you get?

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Tue May 23, 2017 2:42 pm

Terrible news and loss of life for many, children included. This however happens in the likes of Iraq and Syria daily and we unfortunately, on the whole, don`t bat an eyelid.

What does strike me, watching the coverage just now, is the depths **** journalists will go to for a`quote`. A few minutes ago they announced that an 8-year old girl was one of the victims WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENOUGH but no, oh no. The next line was "the headteacher at her school has told us what a wonderful girl she was." What benefit is that to anyone? They have gone to the trouble and no doubt bothering people and God knows what time for a vacuous quote.

No doubt they will be parked on her parents` front door step as we `speak` (I have experience of their tactics 10 years ago).

Sad though and my heart goes out to the families.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue May 23, 2017 2:50 pm

not seen this mentioned on any of the news channels yet, very scary

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Tue May 23, 2017 2:53 pm

ISIL claims responsibility for deadly Manchester attack

"The Daesh (ISIL) terrorist group has taken responsibility for Monday night's attack at the Manchester Arena that killed 22 people, including children, and wounded 59 others.

"One of the soldiers of the Caliphate was able to place an explosive device within a gathering of the Crusaders in the city of Manchester," the group said in a statement Tuesday....."

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brexit · Post by **brexit** » Tue May 23, 2017 3:01 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:not seen this mentioned on any of the news channels yet, very scary

Fake news again
Be careful what you post Vegas you are doing the terrorists job for them by spreading fear and uncertainty.

Other European Isis incidents you fail to mention.
2017-04-20 Paris France
2016-12-19 Berlin Germany
2016-07-24 Ansbach Germany
2016-06-16 Manganville France
2015-11-13 Paris France
check your facts first knob

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Tue May 23, 2017 3:03 pm

Where is the credibility in this statement? It is very easy for these groups to jump on atrocities such as these....before you jump on me I am NOT condoning it in any way shape or form, what I am questioning is the 'reliability' of the claim.