Dyche ------->Palace

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Sat May 27, 2017 4:29 pm

Interesting one.

I think Dyche will have a big rebuilding job on his hands here this summer, which could be a tough challenge depending on the finance available to him.

Palace seem set to hold on to most of their players. They'll probably have a stronger squad than us plus the ability to attract a better player in the transfer window.

I'd be surprised if Dyche isn't at least thinking about it, to be honest.

I still don't think he'll go, mind.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat May 27, 2017 4:39 pm

and if he does go, who do we look at ? It would have to be an quick appointment that's for sure

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Sat May 27, 2017 4:45 pm

Sean Dyche is going nowhere other than back t'Turf next season.

Now relax

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat May 27, 2017 4:46 pm

I'm completely relaxed, more to life than footy so it will be what it will be

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat May 27, 2017 4:48 pm

'The odds are tumbling'

Right who's stuck a fiver on Dyche to Palace?

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Sat May 27, 2017 5:06 pm

My mate has. Would palace need to make a 'formal approach' - Garlick could easily not give them permission to speak to him.

cl40 · Post by **cl40** » Sat May 27, 2017 5:08 pm

If you think about it why would Dyche not want to go to Palace? Better calibre of player, nearer to his family home, bigger budget. It seems the natural next step for him.

As much as I don't want it to happen the chances are it will, it's was never a 'forever' story with Dyche he told us this time and time again.

All those who think this is a good thing and we'll see better football remember Allardyce and Blackburn!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat May 27, 2017 5:11 pm

cl40 wrote:If you think about it why would Dyche not want to go to Palace? Better calibre of player, nearer to his family home, bigger budget. It seems the natural next step for him.

It would all end in tears.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sat May 27, 2017 5:12 pm

Everything ends sometime though, he'll either fade out with us in a few years or he'll burn out at a bigger club.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat May 27, 2017 5:20 pm

Is it that much nearer to his family home?

John Johnson 1605 · Post by **John Johnson 1605** » Sat May 27, 2017 5:37 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Is it that much nearer to his family home?

Yes, but still not commutable.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Sat May 27, 2017 5:47 pm

90% of the time it would take longer to get to Croydon than Burnley from his home and it's a real crappy journey.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sat May 27, 2017 5:53 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:and if he does go, who do we look at ? It would have to be an quick appointment that's for sure

I have no idea but I'd hope that whenever Dyche goes, we'll have a shortlist of managers in mind. It's really important that we're prepared and that we appoint a manager with similar philosophies.

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sat May 27, 2017 6:38 pm

At the start of the season I thought it would be Dyche's last with us. Relegation and surely he wouldn't fancy Groundhog Day in the Championship. Stay up and his stock would be so high that a bigger club would surely come knocking.

However, the 'bigger' clubs that I feared one day would steal him away aren't really in position to do that:

Villa - backwards step
Sunderland - backwards step
Newcastle - stable
Everton - stable

The composition of the PL is pretty unusual at the moment. 2 distinct leagues within a league with only Everton bridging the gap. I just don't see the risk reward equation for Dyche making the leap at the moment but we shall see.

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dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sat May 27, 2017 11:32 pm

According to Google, it takes between 2 hours 50 minutes and 3 hours 50 minutes to drive from Northampton to Turf Moor (173 miles) to arrive on Tuesday morning at 10 am. It takes between 2 hours 20 minutes and 4 hours 10 minutes to drive to Crystal Palace (79 miles) at the same time. So Palace means an earlier departure, more traffic jams, more hassle. If he goes to Palace, it won't be for the easier travel.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sat May 27, 2017 11:36 pm

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claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Sat May 27, 2017 11:56 pm

dsr, the drive does not matter, Money talks! N palace will probably pay double if not more than what Sean currently gets..
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dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun May 28, 2017 12:05 am

claretdj wrote:dsr, the drive does not matter, Money talks! N palace will probably pay double if not more than what Sean currently gets..
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If you're talking about whether he wants to move because he's nearer home, which I was, then the drive matters.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Sun May 28, 2017 12:24 am

dsr wrote:If you're talking about whether he wants to move because he's nearer home, which I was, then the drive matters.

Really? I always thought ££££ talk, not the drive!

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 12:29 am

Dyche ain't going t'Palace, except to receive an honour from HRH.

End of.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 12:31 am

claretdj wrote:Really? I always thought ££££ talk, not the drive!

Don't think £ matter, full control will and that's what Burnley give him

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun May 28, 2017 12:49 am

claretdj wrote:Really? I always thought ££££ talk, not the drive!

Money talks, but it's not the only thing. Do you think if an eccentric millionaire offered him an extra couple of quid to manage Peterhead, that he'd go?

Dum Spiro Spero · Post by **Dum Spiro Spero** » Sun May 28, 2017 4:33 am

Sven went to Notts County, I expect he would have gone to Peterhead. Is eccentric a euphemism for barmy ? Back on topic, I would be surprised if Crystal Palace had not contacted Sean Dyche's agent. Christian Benteke and Steven Defour are friends and international colleagues. Perhaps they are helping to broker a deal.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 6:53 am

SD now 2/1 favourite to take over at Palace with Sky Bet as Gary Monk drifts to 3/1.

cl40 · Post by **cl40** » Sun May 28, 2017 8:22 am

I'm sure Dyche is very well rewarded for being the Burnley manager with bonuses etc. I think that's the one thing the Burnley board could match is his wages.

I still think everything else is in Palace's favour, if they want him he'll go.

Unlike Coyle, Dyche will always get a clap from me when he returns, what he's done for this club is nothing short of a miracle. So if it happens good luck to him.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sun May 28, 2017 8:23 am

kentonclaret wrote:SD now 2/1 favourite to take over at Palace with Sky Bet as Gary Monk drifts to 3/1.

The odds are all over the place. The bookies haven't a clue and are just reacting to each other because of the lack of rumours. There is very little coming out of Palace and the SD rumours are made up by papers and crap websites wanting a story.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 8:58 am

SD has very little experience of managing players with egos and none english speaking foreigners, as he tends to avoid them. He would be a massive risk if appointed at somewhere like Palace. Surely their Chairman can see this.

His success is built around teamwork, maximum effort and all understanding his framework. This includes all players being on similar relatively low wages and large bonuses for achieving. Most BFC fans are very happy with this. I doubt fans of all other PL clubs would be.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun May 28, 2017 9:49 am

Wouldnt read anything into odds. Or peter reid wouldve been our manager a few times by now. Along with Sean O Driscoll, Ian Holloway and Brian Flynn.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun May 28, 2017 9:51 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Wouldnt read anything into odds. Or peter reid wouldve been our manager a few times by now. Along with Sean O Driscoll, Ian Holloway and Brian Flynn.

Can you believe Peter Reid is only 60? I thought he was way older than that.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun May 28, 2017 9:53 am

IndigoLake wrote:Can you believe Peter Reid is only 60? I thought he was way older than that.

He looked 65 when he was chasing Maradonna in 1986!

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun May 28, 2017 9:55 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:He looked 65 when he was chasing Maradonna in 1986!

Haha, he did go grey early didn't he. He's not up to much these days. There's still time for him to become Burnley manager

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun May 28, 2017 10:41 am

IndigoLake wrote:Can you believe Peter Reid is only 60? I thought he was way older than that.

I think it is actually sixty percent ABV

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 12:12 pm

Dum Spiro Spero wrote:Sven went to Notts County, I expect he would have gone to Peterhead. Is eccentric a euphemism for barmy ? Back on topic, I would be surprised if Crystal Palace had not contacted Sean Dyche's agent. Christian Benteke and Steven Defour are friends and international colleagues. Perhaps they are helping to broker a deal.

Cannot imagine Stephen Defour going too far out of his way to encourage this to happen. He's hardly been SD's first name on the team sheet, and assuming our most talented midfielder is off this summer, I think you could chose your own odds in SD going and then taking Defour with him.

My own thoughts are SD will be with us at least another season, but should he chose to go I hope its done quickly. It would be a big blow to the clubs ongoing plans but the world wouldn't stop and I have a lot of faith that our board has the people in place to make the right choice- their management of the club for me has been even more impressive than Sean Dyche

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 12:30 pm

A lot of the arguments being put forward as to why SD will not take over as manager of Crystal Palace make him appear to be a very one dimensional manager, who can only deal with English speaking players who make up for what they lack in flair by running about a lot.

Perhaps the Crystal Palace job would appeal to Sean Dyche to give him the opportunity to prove that he is not just a one trick pony who can handle foreign players and give flair players a chance to flourish.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sun May 28, 2017 1:09 pm

kentonclaret wrote:A lot of the arguments being put forward as to why SD will not take over as manager of Crystal Palace make him appear to be a very one dimensional manager, who can only deal with English speaking players who make up for what they lack in flair by running about a lot.

Perhaps the Crystal Palace job would appeal to Sean Dyche to give him the opportunity to prove that he is not just a one trick pony who can handle foreign players and give flair players a chance to flourish.

He doesn't need to manage another club to do that. With the money available this summer he could sign overseas players with flair and prove it at Burnley.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:33 pm

summitclaret wrote:SD has very little experience of managing players with egos and none english speaking foreigners, as he tends to avoid them. He would be a massive risk if appointed at somewhere like Palace. Surely their Chairman can see this.

His success is built around teamwork, maximum effort and all understanding his framework. This includes all players being on similar relatively low wages and large bonuses for achieving. Most BFC fans are very happy with this. I doubt fans of all other PL clubs would be.

Pulls, Allardyce and Warnock all appointed by Parish. Yes, Allardyce and Pulis have probably had more experience with managing ego's, but their approaches are similar to Dyche. Defensively minded, tactically organised and rigid framework.

If you take a look at their list of managers, Palace have only ever had one foreign manager, which was Lombardo in 1998. He lasted seven games.

Dyche is exactly the sort of manager Parish and Palace would appear to go for, unless they are looking for a complete sea change in direction.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:53 pm

're the drive I thought he had moved to the Ribble Valley whilst having a house built at Lothersdale ?
I think with Gawthorpe being very much his "baby" he'll stay at least another year do well for us again then move to a lot bigger club than Palace who are survivors at best like us at the moment.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 2:59 pm

bfcjg wrote:'re the drive I thought he had moved to the Ribble Valley whilst having a house built at Lothersdale ?
I think with Gawthorpe being very much his "baby" he'll stay at least another year do well for us again then move to a lot bigger club than Palace who are survivors at best like us at the moment.

gawthorpe might be his baby but it's been a shitty nappy, on the pitch, since we moved in there.

Duffer_ · Post by **Duffer_** » Sun May 28, 2017 4:11 pm

Coleman to Palace at a very generous 20-1. Dyche to remain at Burnley. Move along...nothing to see here

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Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun May 28, 2017 4:46 pm

Going off previous appointments I should imagine someone completely under the radar, who most of us only know vaguely.
I have faith in the board to spot a good Un.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun May 28, 2017 4:47 pm

He will find out the grass isn't greener elsewhere when he leaves anyway, like everyone who has left us in the past 15 years. Blake, Chaplow, Andy Gray, Ings, JRod, Coyle, Akinbiyi, Shackell the list is endless. I'm not sure who has really left us and gone onto better things...... Trippier is one, other than that, I'm struggling.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun May 28, 2017 4:48 pm

Palace would suit someone like André Villas-Boas

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 5:17 pm

bfcjg wrote:'re the drive I thought he had moved to the Ribble Valley whilst having a house built at Lothersdale ?
I think with Gawthorpe being very much his "baby" he'll stay at least another year do well for us again then move to a lot bigger club than Palace who are survivors at best like us at the moment.

Realistically he's not going to get a "lot bigger" club than Palace.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sun May 28, 2017 5:20 pm

He won't go to Palace. No bigger than us.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 5:26 pm

Quicknick wrote:He won't go to Palace. No bigger than us.

That's arguable but, regardless, no established top half PL club is going to have serious designs on Sean Dyche. His "profile" and style of football really don't suit.

Goddy · Post by **Goddy** » Sun May 28, 2017 6:07 pm

Fwiw, Dyche odds drifting out to 11/2 with Monk now at 11/8 (both, best odds you can get at the mo).

Could just be a reflection of the bets being placed more than anyone being in the know, of course.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 6:59 pm

Gary Monk now 4/1 ON with William Hill SD 11/2.

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 7:14 pm

On the 'holmesdale' message board, I'd say the majority are pretty warm towards Dyche....more so than monk. Have to say they come across as a pretty realistic bunch on there, they respect the job Dyche has done and see him as a natural successor to the sequence of British appointments they have had. A few of them question why he'd want to leave Burnley for Palace, certainly no air of superiority towards us like that of their rivals Brighton.

Holmeclaret · Post by **Holmeclaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 8:20 pm

I hope Palace destroy Brighton next season but preferably not under SD.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun May 28, 2017 8:28 pm

I'm not having it that Allardyce is retiring. He left Palace because he hasn't been promised vast riches and he could hardly come out and say that.

If Palace are tightening their belts after spending fortunes under Pardew, then I'm not sure how enticing a job it is. Big expectations, reducing budget.