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Lisbon lions

Post by tim_noone » Wed May 24, 2017 11:35 pm

On bbc1 maybe worth a watch'

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Post by tim_noone » Wed May 24, 2017 11:51 pm

Correction... It is worth a watch. Lots of archive footage of Glasgow and the poverty etc.plus the football.
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Re: Lisbon lions

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed May 24, 2017 11:57 pm

Will watch this on Iplayer. Sounds good!

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Re: Lisbon lions

Post by claretfern » Thu May 25, 2017 4:21 pm

Was excellent viewing (and I prefer Rangers!) Celtic had a great side then under Jock Stein, without doubt. Been well documented that the players were all born within a close radius of Parkhead, barring Bobby Lennox who hailed from Saltcoats.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Thu May 25, 2017 4:24 pm

hardly impressive given the number of cracks they got at qualification by virtue of winning the league every other season.

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Post by Clarets4me » Thu May 25, 2017 5:10 pm

Excellent watch...really enjoyed it..

Makes you wonder what Jimmy Johnstone would be worth today, especially on modern pitches and the protection from Referees...

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Post by claretfern » Thu May 25, 2017 5:19 pm

Just finished reading 'Scotland in the Sixties'...a period when the National side was well blessed with talent. Jimmy Johnstone would have won far more caps had he not had a fear of flying.

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Post by tim_noone » Thu May 25, 2017 5:33 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:hardly impressive given the number of cracks they got at qualification by virtue of winning the league every other season.
To beat inter Milan in the final was pretty impressive id say,that apart all the lads were from the same area...that will never happen again.and they came across past and present as decent men grounded and proud of their roots despite the poverty.i thought it was a good watch.
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Post by BleedingClaret » Thu May 25, 2017 5:39 pm

A brilliant watch and I hate Celtic cos of 1978
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Post by nil_desperandum » Thu May 25, 2017 5:39 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:hardly impressive given the number of cracks they got at qualification by virtue of winning the league every other season.
Qualifying really wasn't the issue, though Rangers were incredibly strong at the time, but getting through to the final and actually winning it was an amazing feat. All the giants of football were in that competition. Don't forget the previous winners were Real Madrid, Benfica, and the 2 Milan clubs, and all the top Europeans teams were in it. (Only the Champions of each country in those days, don't forget, so the cream of European football).

Leaving that aside, it was a great programme full of social history, and a reminder of how grim things were in some sections of the UK and society in the mid-sixties.
I was also reminded of how strong Scottish football was at that time. (1967)
Scotland beat World Cup Winners England
Celtic Won the European Cup, Rangers got to the final of the European Cup Winners Cup - to be beaten by Bayern Munich, and even Kilmarnock got to the Semi Final of the Inter-City Fairs Cup (later the UEFA Cup), where they lost 4-2 over 2 legs to Leeds Utd.
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Post by Dazzler » Thu May 25, 2017 7:18 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:hardly impressive given the number of cracks they got at qualification by virtue of winning the league every other season.

Celtic had not won the title for 11 seasons prior to 1965/66.

It was the first time they had competed in the European cup.
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Re: Lisbon lions

Post by Clarets4me » Thu May 25, 2017 10:12 pm

In the modern age, it's somewhat incredible to learn that between 1897 - 1983, a period spanning 86 years, Celtic had only 5 Managers !!
In the 34 years since, they've had 13 more...

Including caretaker Managers, Leeds Utd have had 28 Managers since 1983, and that includes Howard Wilkinson who served for one month shy of 8 years..

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Post by tim_noone » Thu May 25, 2017 10:28 pm

5 managers in 86 years amazing.hopefully we have that type of manager at burnley.hes done 5 already !
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Re: Lisbon lions

Post by Pstotto » Fri May 26, 2017 1:51 am

Watching the documentary, one almost gets the feeling they're all nice folk....until one remembers 1978.
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Post by nil_desperandum » Fri May 26, 2017 10:34 am

Pstotto wrote:Watching the documentary, one almost gets the feeling they're all nice folk....until one remembers 1978.
There were a lot of moronic / drunken sets of fans in the 70s. It's why we ended up with perimeter fencing. It wasn't down to one set of fans.
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Re: Lisbon lions

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri May 26, 2017 10:37 am

nil_desperandum wrote:There were a lot of moronic / drunken sets of fans in the 70s. It's why we ended up with perimeter fencing. It wasn't down to one set of fans.
It was that night.
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Re: Lisbon lions

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 26, 2017 10:54 am

nil_desperandum wrote:There were a lot of moronic / drunken sets of fans in the 70s. It's why we ended up with perimeter fencing. It wasn't down to one set of fans.
The amount of fencing was increased at Burnley after that game in 1978 and security was also increased significantly.

Interesting programme to watch and Celtic were brilliant that night.

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Re: Lisbon lions

Post by Wile E Coyote » Fri May 26, 2017 11:02 am

celtic,rangers,celtic,rangers,celtic, rangers....ad infinitum, surely the most inane and dullest place to be a football fan.
Not suggesting the city didnt occasionally produce some wonderful footballers, it clearly did, but the boast that they were the first British team to win a European cup is very hollow. For all the imperfections with the english first division as it was back then, at least it can be classed as reasonably competitive by comparison. i.e more than two teams have won the league in the last 150 years.

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Post by tim_noone » Fri May 26, 2017 11:09 am

Pstotto wrote:Watching the documentary, one almost gets the feeling they're all nice folk....until one remembers 1978.
Burnley fans had their moments.i recall Celtic scarves being burned on the longside thrown against the no mans land anyone in green and white fair game .that in my opinion lit the fuse.and I'll stick by it.

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Post by Wile E Coyote » Fri May 26, 2017 11:19 am

all towns/cities have an element of idiots, celtic however brought to Burnley an embarrassing, loutish , drunken violent mob that day.
They were a sprawling, uncouth,foul mouthed bigoted crowd all day in the town. Vomiting there drunken way from street to street until the match began. Mainly young lads trying to emulate the bull**** stories of their dads and uncles generation.

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Post by nil_desperandum » Fri May 26, 2017 11:36 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:celtic,rangers,celtic,rangers,celtic, rangers....ad infinitum, surely the most inane and dullest place to be a football fan.
Not suggesting the city didnt occasionally produce some wonderful footballers, it clearly did, but the boast that they were the first British team to win a European cup is very hollow. For all the imperfections with the english first division as it was back then, at least it can be classed as reasonably competitive by comparison. i.e more than two teams have won the league in the last 150 years.
You need to do a bit more research about Scottish football.
Between 1919 and winning the league in 1966, Celtic only won the Scottish League 5 times. Rangers, HIbs, and Hearts were far more dominant, and the likes of Motherwell, Dundee,, Aberdeen and Kilmarnock all won it.
It was not the 2 horse race that it was to become from the 70s.
You only need to look at what happned to English football from the late-60s to understand why. Abolition of maximum wage, TV and big city clubs starting to dominate. There are only really 2 big cities in Scotland.
More recently the lack of TV money in Scotland has made things much worse.
(I'm not Scottish by the way).
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Re: Lisbon lions

Post by Wile E Coyote » Fri May 26, 2017 11:41 am

i stand corrected nil.
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