Diane Abbott

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sun May 28, 2017 8:45 pm

Spijed wrote:I wouldn't say she's thick. She studied history at Cambridge University.

Maybe, but did she graduate?

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun May 28, 2017 8:46 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote:It would appear that you think that unemployment is a yardstick of how successfully government policies work.

Obviously, Labour is your favoured as they always leave more people unemployed than when they gained power.

Remind me how many were unemployed in the 1980's?

3 Million? Or was it 4 Million with the gerrymandered figures they used to use?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun May 28, 2017 9:24 pm

BennyD wrote:Maybe, but did she graduate?

According to her website: "She attended the grammar school Harrow County and then went on to Newnham College Cambridge where she obtained a Masters degree in history."

I suspect that must be correct or the press would have pointed out any inaccuracies with the statement.

To even get into Cambridge she would have had to have obtained top marks in her A-Levels etc.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun May 28, 2017 9:28 pm

In all seriousness, I wonder if she needs to see a Doctor. She has become somewhat "confused" recently.

She may already be doing so. Time will tell in due course.

If it be your will · Post by **If it be your will** » Sun May 28, 2017 9:39 pm

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sun May 28, 2017 9:46 pm

Spijed wrote:?.......To even get into Cambridge she would have had to have obtained top marks in her A-Levels etc.

Or she MAY have been a quota beneficiary but I bet her website wouldn't have mentioned that.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun May 28, 2017 9:48 pm

BennyD wrote:Or she MAY have been a quota beneficiary but I bet her website wouldn't have mentioned that.

Jesus wept.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sun May 28, 2017 9:55 pm

I'm sure he did, nails through your hands and feet tend to make you do that apparently. However, I fail to see how someone so monumentally stupid as Abbott could have got to, and through Cambridge university without someone fighting her corner. Even her colleagues appreciate that, it's such a pity the general w4nk and file don't.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun May 28, 2017 10:15 pm

BennyD wrote:Doubled it? And I suppose Labour helped to reduce it with all the PFI schemes that are constantly biting us in the ar5e and we will be paying for for decades to come.

Edit: I posted this before I read post #47.

Who introduced PFI schemes?

Sproggy · Post by **Sproggy** » Sun May 28, 2017 10:23 pm

"The even uglier reality for Miliband is that the New Labour era was a golden age for the PFI. The modern PFI is the child of John Major’s Conservative government, but it was adopted and thrived under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. Between 1997 and 2008, 90 per cent of all hospital construction funding was under PFI agreements, which paid for 75 per cent of all hospitals built."

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun May 28, 2017 10:27 pm

lovebeingaclaret wrote:It would appear that you think that unemployment is a yardstick of how successfully government policies work.

Obviously, Labour is your favoured as they always leave more people unemployed than when they gained power.

Now that's obscure as it gets!

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun May 28, 2017 10:30 pm

As for Diane. The is struggling with something healthwisehealthier, I suspect. Her sharpness is suffering. Hope all is well.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sun May 28, 2017 10:30 pm

joey13 wrote:Who introduced PFI schemes?

Who greatly increased the range and scope of them?

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sun May 28, 2017 10:32 pm

IanMcL wrote:As for Diane. The is struggling with something healthwisehealthier, I suspect. Her sharpness is suffering. Hope all is well.

Reading that, I suspect yours is too. I hope all is well.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun May 28, 2017 10:45 pm

BennyD wrote:Reading that, I suspect yours is too. I hope all is well.

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Sun May 28, 2017 11:50 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Remind me how many were unemployed in the 1980's?

3 Million? Or was it 4 Million with the gerrymandered figures they used to use?

u

Perhaps you misread my second paragraph?

Garnerssoap · Post by **Garnerssoap** » Mon May 29, 2017 12:13 am

Diane Abbots a prick. But this board still amazes me with the amount who vote Tory. There must be a shitload of 1 percenters who are clarets

MG70 · Post by **MG70** » Mon May 29, 2017 12:16 am

Spijed wrote:According to her website: "She attended the grammar school Harrow County and then went on to Newnham College Cambridge where she obtained a Masters degree in history."

I suspect that must be correct or the press would have pointed out any inaccuracies with the statement.

To even get into Cambridge she would have had to have obtained top marks in her A-Levels etc.

All that means is she's an educated idiot.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon May 29, 2017 7:53 am

BennyD wrote:Who greatly increased the range and scope of them?

I'll answer the question, Tory Blair
Now you answer who brought them in initially

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Mon May 29, 2017 9:21 am

joey13 wrote:I'll answer the question, Tory Blair
Now you answer who brought them in initially

If Labour MPs or supporters refer to Thatcher then the descriptive 'Tory' tends to get a mention.

Why do the Labour supporters refer to Blair as if he was never the Labour prime minister ?

With regards to Abbott, I have no doubt she got to Cambridge on her own merits and hard work. Academically she's obviously pretty bright.
Being bright and having held quite warped views, whether it be on the IRA/ability of white mothers/disbanding MI5 etc just makes her more dangerous.

Even if she went to church and confessed all her sins and took full time employment in a children's hospice with a vow of silence,
she was still a grown up educated adult who still supported the IRA against our own soldiers and failed/refused to condemn the murder of innocents.

More news now about 'nice guy' Jeremy and the support he gave the PLO at a rather bloody time. Oh well, at least he was consistent if nothing else.

You've given up trying to defend Blair, you might think about keeping some credibility by giving up on these two.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon May 29, 2017 9:36 am

HatfieldClaret wrote:If Labour MPs or supporters refer to Thatcher then the descriptive 'Tory' tends to get a mention.

Why do the Labour supporters refer to Blair as if he was never the Labour prime minister ?

With regards to Abbott, I have no doubt she got to Cambridge on her own merits and hard work. Academically she's obviously pretty bright.
Being bright and having held quite warped views, whether it be on the IRA/ability of white mothers/disbanding MI5 etc just makes her more dangerous.

Even if she went to church and confessed all her sins and took full time employment in a children's hospice with a vow of silence,
she was still a grown up educated adult who still supported the IRA against our own soldiers and failed/refused to condemn the murder of innocents.

More news now about 'nice guy' Jeremy and the support he gave the PLO at a rather bloody time. Oh well, at least he was consistent if nothing else.

You've given up trying to defend Blair, you might think about keeping some credibility by giving up on these two.

Not like Tories to get facts wrong is it
John Major introduced PFI

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Mon May 29, 2017 9:39 am

Nowt to do with my post but...

PFi in its place and purpose would have been ok.

A bit like taxes, just a case of what you do with them.

John Major was a knob and I thought so at the time.

The only man in history to run away from the circus to become an accountant.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon May 29, 2017 1:17 pm

BennyD wrote:Reading that, I suspect yours is too. I hope all is well.

Bloody prepredictpredictive text!

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Mon May 29, 2017 3:12 pm

joey13 wrote:I'll answer the question, Tory Blair
Now you answer who brought them in initially

John Major. However, PFI is justifiable in small doses to get projects off the ground. Blair and his idiot friends ripped the ar5e out of the concept and we'll be paying the tab for decades to come.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:10 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47996907

I didn't any know Diane drunk alcohol,what's more telling is that since the drinking ban became law on the TFL network thanks to Boris,seemingly no-one found breaching this legislation has been prosecuted.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:34 am

Potentially a national embarrassment imo. As if she could be a credible Home Secretary. A Corbyn led government would be an absolute disaster. Appointing this clown is a taster of his decision making.

Corky · Post by **Corky** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:37 am

Spijed wrote:I wouldn't say she's thick. She studied history at Cambridge University.

She probably got the Prince Harry treatment.

I would say that her ignorance is surpassed only by the people who voted for her!!!

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:38 am

She’s always come across as embarrassing, this incident will improve her reputation though, even if just a little bit.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:40 am

Spijed wrote:According to her website: "She attended the grammar school Harrow County and then went on to Newnham College Cambridge where she obtained a Masters degree in history."

I suspect that must be correct or the press would have pointed out any inaccuracies with the statement.

To even get into Cambridge she would have had to have obtained top marks in her A-Levels etc.

So. She’s an “academic idiot” then.

She’s fuckin mince, and EVERYONE knows it.

TheOriginalLongsider · Post by **TheOriginalLongsider** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:49 am

I don’t get how people are thinking rich people are in the conservatives and labour is for poor people. Just look up a few labour mps or ex mos and see how much they’re worth ! Yvette Cooper for instance has 3 properties worth over £2 million. Diane Abbot earns over £300k and her home is worth over £1 million. Tony Blair is worth over £22 million and has loads of properties ....

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:54 am

People are getting furious about a Mojito ?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:58 am

Obscene isn’t it.

I think I remember reading a few years ago that “the liars” salary was around £140k. Must’ve been some shrewd investments going on, as he left office a millionaire.

Didn’t he also have private health treatment at some point?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:01 am

AndyClaret wrote:People are getting furious about a Mojito ?

No, people are getting furious about Diane Abbott doing anything.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:02 am

AndyClaret wrote:People are getting furious about a Mojito ?

Imagine the uproar if she’d been supping special brew.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:06 am

AndyClaret wrote:People are getting furious about a Mojito ?

As with a lot of the anti-Abbott outrage, you've got to want it.

Corky · Post by **Corky** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:12 am

I like how some are commenting on her level of academia as that somehow qualifies Diane Abbott to be in public office. When I worked for Royal Mail the number of graduate entrants I saw flounder when it came to having to do real work, manage staff, think quickly on your feet, was quite alarming. In my view she is not suited to the type of adversarial politics that we have in the UK.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:23 am

martin_p wrote:No, people are getting furious about Diane Abbott doing anything.

No. People are getting furious (not me by the way) about the shadow Home Secretary ignoring the rules and drinking alcohol whilst travelling on public transport.

What next? Getting a family member to claim they were driving when you get caught speeding?

Oh. Hang on....

Look. Everyone makes mistakes... but how long do you have to be a public figure before you work out 1, your every move will be scrutinised, and 2, you SHOULD be beyond reproach.

Clever she may be, but thick as mince she most certainly is.

If labour want to be taken seriously, they need to lose Abbott. She is to labour what BJ is to the tories.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:38 am

How can anyone drink canned Mojito? It's awful stuff. Get 1 from a proper cocktail bar, beautiful.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:41 am

Her biggest achievment was allowing Corbyn to knob her. Corbyn's biggest mistake was knobing her now he feels as though he has to stick by her or a between the sheets reveal all kiss and tell story could adorn the pages of the Morning Star. "Corbyn's tiny majority was a real let down " Uggh what if they had a kid ?

AndyClaret · Post by **AndyClaret** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:51 am

martin_p wrote:No, people are getting furious about Diane Abbott doing anything.

I can't stand the woman, but i'm not furious about this.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:54 am

Yeah the Tories are running the country into the ground but Dianne Abbott minding her own business having a drink on a train is way more important.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:17 am

Someone re-opened a two year old thread for this!

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:35 am

claretandy wrote:asked by Andrew Marr whether she supported the IRA in 1984 she said. "it was 34 years ago, i had a big afro then" wow, just wow, to think she could be Home Secretary.

Add the fact shes thick as pig sh!t and its a frightening prospect.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:49 am

It’s bizarre how much hatred there is for this woman.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:49 am

Getting mad about an MP drinking a premix cocktail on the tube at this time in politics is a bit like complaining about a disappointing dessert on the buffet of the Titanic.

Spike · Post by **Spike** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:51 am

claretandy wrote:asked by Andrew Marr whether she supported the IRA in 1984 she said. "it was 34 years ago, i had a big afro then" wow, just wow, to think she could be Home Secretary.

That is the nearest her Maths have ever been!

Whoever votes for this woman should be sectioned

Chuckypad · Post by **Chuckypad** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:59 am

tiger76 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47996907

I didn't any know Diane drunk alcohol,what's more telling is that since the drinking ban became law on the TFL network thanks to Boris,seemingly no-one found breaching this legislation has been prosecuted.

That is a serious bump!

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:02 am

FactualFrank wrote:Getting mad about an MP drinking a premix cocktail on the tube at this time in politics is a bit like complaining about a disappointing dessert on the buffet of the Titanic.

Even I can forgive her for this.

Hope this wasn't before noon and on her way to work though.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:10 am

You can see what Jezza saw in her

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IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:17 pm

A 2 year old thread, suggests there is an agenda against this lady.