Diane Abbott

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:24 pm

in my view abbott is a racist, terrorist supporting anti british establishment maoist supporting MP..

she says so herself :-

Comments on race
In 1996, Abbott was criticised after she claimed that at her local hospital "blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls" were unsuitable as nurses because they had "never met a black person before".[87] In response Marc Wadsworth, executive member of the Anti-Racist Alliance, who is half-Finnish, pointed out that the then-current Miss Finland, Lola Odusoga, is black, of Nigerian and Finnish descent. "She's a black Finn like me," he said. Abbott's position was supported by fellow Labour MP Bernie Grant: "Bringing someone here from Finland who has never seen a black person before and expecting them to have some empathy with black people is nonsense. Scandinavian people don't know black people—they probably don't know how to take their temperature".[88][89]

In 2010, in defending her decision to send her son to a private school, she asserted that "West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children.", prompting criticism about this perceived slight on white mothers.[90]

On 4 January 2012, Abbott tweeted that: "White people love playing 'divide and rule' We should not play their game", which again led to widespread criticism including accusations of racism.[91] Abbott later apologised for "any offence caused", claiming that she had not intended to "make generalisations about white people". Abbott also stated in an interview with Andrew Neil that her tweet referred to the history of the British Empire. The Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg called her comments a "stupid and crass generalisation". Nadhim Zahawi, Conservative MP, said: "This is racism. If this was a white member of Parliament saying that all black people want to do bad things to us he would have resigned within the hour or been sacked."

IRA
In May 2017, The Sunday Times reported that Abbott backed the IRA in a 1984 interview with Labour and Ireland, a pro-republican journal. In the 1984 interview, Abbott criticised the Unionist population of Northern Ireland as an "enclave of white supremacist ideology comparable to white settlers in Zimbabwe" and called for their views to be ignored on the question of Unification adding "Ireland is our struggle — every defeat of the British state is a victory for all of us. A defeat in Northern Ireland would be a defeat indeed".

Abbott for Home secretary....

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:24 pm

A face for radio

gtclaret · Post by **gtclaret** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:37 pm

IanMcL wrote:A 2 year old thread, suggests there is an agenda against this lady.

Or it suggests that she has done something which some people want to talk about and someone doesn't want to open another thread.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:38 pm

No. That is not what it suggests, at all.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:45 pm

Shall I open another thread?

If we had a “Dianne Abbott-isms” thread, it’d be bigger than adeola Friday ffs.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:21 pm

Diane Abott .... the Garth Crooks of Politics

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:04 pm

gtclaret wrote:Or it suggests that she has done something which some people want to talk about and someone doesn't want to open another thread.

Exactly i could have made a new thread about this news story but as there was an existing Diane Abbott thread deemed this unnecessary.

It's amazing how useful the search function can be.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:08 pm

Every Tory toff could have their own thread, on that basis!

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:19 pm

IanMcL wrote:Every Tory toff could have their own thread, on that basis!

I'm no fan of the Tories either,someone mentioned further up the thread Diane Abbott would be a terrible Home Secretary,perhaps she would be,but could she be any worse than either Theresa May or Amber Rudd,both who presided over the Windrush scandal amongst other calamities,it's frightening how bereft of talent or basic competence our 2 potential governing parties are.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:54 pm

But they could perform simple mathematics, Tiger. I'd say that's a basic prerequisite of a home secretary.

The thought of Abbott in that position terrifies me more than Corbyn at PM.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:17 pm

The thought of any socialist governing the country fills me with dread. Abbott and her boyfriend Corbyn are not fit to Govern, they even make the Tories look competent

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:21 pm

Fair play to her having a can on the train, though I’d always presumed she was a functioning alcoholic anyway ?
Surely the most racist MP in history and the mere thought of the “ three horsemen of the apocalypse “ Abbot, Corbyn and McDonnell taking the reins of power is as disgusting as it is terrifying

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:12 pm

Using Dianne’s own maths skills there Alarge. Like it, like it.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:35 pm

NOT IMPORTANT: NHS in crisis The Brexit catastrofuck Schools in crisis 4m children in poverty 598 rough sleepers dying last year Knife crime out of control Social care, prisons etc in meltdown Soaring use of food banks IMPORTANT: Diane Abbott has a cheeky mojito

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:01 pm

IanMcL wrote:NOT IMPORTANT: NHS in crisis The Brexit catastrofuck Schools in crisis 4m children in poverty 598 rough sleepers dying last year Knife crime out of control Social care, prisons etc in meltdown Soaring use of food banks IMPORTANT: Diane Abbott has a cheeky mojito

I get your point Ian, I really do. We KNOW the tories are making a pigs ear of Brexit - to be fair, anyone would so devisive the subject is. It's actually being used by everyone as a stick to beat TM with.But we aint gonna solve any of those issues here, no-one else has managed to solve them whilst in government. Thing is, she is very unlikely to solve any of the issues you mention, but she COULD at some point be in a position to try to do just that, and that is what people are struggling to get their head around. It's a cheeky mojito if it's my wife, but this woman (along with other parliamentarians, some Lords and maybe a few others) will be responsible for making the laws she so blatantly ignores herself. That's IMPORTANT. She's GOT to get that right.

Credibility = nil.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:12 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Thankfully Labour has taken its Party back since those days they were trying to be like the Tories.

Absolutely. Much better to be Stalinst. The murderer of most people including his family in the last century
Well done lad.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:13 pm

IanMcL wrote:Every Tory toff could have their own thread, on that basis!

Whats a tory toff working ckass hero?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:14 pm

Stayingup wrote:Whats a tory toff working ckass hero?

A myth.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:15 pm

Spijed wrote:I wouldn't say she's thick. She studied history at Cambridge University.

Believe me shes thick. I know from.personal experience

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:12 pm

Stayingup wrote:Whats a tory toff working ckass hero?

You missed a ki ....
Although a "tory toff working kickass hero" isn't something I have ever engendered thoughts about

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:16 pm

She should be prosecuted for the drink crime. Imagine had it been Farage, Robinson or Boris himself?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:27 pm

As no one else has been prosecuted, why should she be?

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:40 pm

Looks like she's being picked on by a bored media.

Hardly the crime of the century, should just leave her be.

She's not stupid either, just appears to lack a lot of sense in many cases, but that happens to some clever people.
Odd how she doesn't always understand what she should be doing, as someone who's been to university we are led to believe that she should be better able to learn and retain all the facts through her superior researching ability...

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:47 pm

IanMcL wrote:As no one else has been prosecuted, why should she be?

Every time you turn on the box someone is being done for historic crimes - she broke the law, that's why!

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:48 pm

A can on a train?
Are you a Victorian?
7 years and sent to the colonies?

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:50 pm

IanMcL wrote:A can on a train?
Are you a Victorian?
7 years and sent to the colonies?

Don't be silly. Alright then, a Police Caution?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:56 pm

All other 'canees' have just been spoken to, by the train staff. Surely, that's enough? (Irrespective of who it is)

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:09 pm

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:57 pm

IanMcL wrote:As no one else has been prosecuted, why should she be?

That was my main point,if the law isn't going to be enforced for anybody it makes a mockery of introducing the said law in the first place.

Another of Boris's faux-pas along with spending a fortune on water cannons that were never used,whether the legislation is good or bad is debatable,but that's the laws as they stand,and as a perspective HS and London MP Diane Abbott should be up to speed regarding such laws.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:32 am

tiger76 wrote:That was my main point,if the law isn't going to be enforced for anybody it makes a mockery of introducing the said law in the first place.

Another of Boris's faux-pas along with spending a fortune on water cannons that were never used,whether the legislation is good or bad is debatable,but that's the laws as they stand,and as a perspective HS and London MP Diane Abbott should be up to speed regarding such laws.

The law isn't there to stop every single old age pensioner having a drop of whisky from a hip flask; it's to stop drunks. I dare say it would be enforced if it was necessary to enforce it, but when someone is having a drop of something without even realising they're doing wrong - either not thinking or didn't know the rule - then a quiet word is all that's needed.

Loads of laws are not enforced for minor offenders. When did you last hear of someone going to court for having a brake light out, or for speeding at 31 mph?

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:41 am

IanMcL wrote:"catastrofuck"

Oh dear

What next?

"Cockwomble"?

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:01 am

IanMcL wrote:A can on a train?
Are you a Victorian?
7 years and sent to the colonies?

She would be sent to the gulag in a civilised country

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:54 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Looks like she's being picked on by a bored media.

#123

Not picked on by the bored media but a number of people on here.

I don't like the woman at all, but this is such a none story.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:56 am

Bosscat wrote:Diane Abott .... the Garth Crooks of Politics

HarryPottsDesk · Post by **HarryPottsDesk** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:00 am

Wasn't there going to be a separate forum for all these right-wing idiots to vent their spleen?
I hardly look on here any more because whenever I do it seems to be nothing but right-wing idiots venting their spleen. It's no wonder Burnley has such an awful reputation for bigotry. Could someone start a football forum?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:06 am

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You obviously can't debate with right wing idiots so you choose to insult anybody who expresses an opinion contrary to yours,isn't that fascism ?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:07 am

HarryPottsDesk wrote:Wasn't there going to be a separate forum for all these right-wing idiots to vent their spleen?
I hardly look on here any more because whenever I do it seems to be nothing but right-wing idiots venting their spleen. It's no wonder Burnley has such an awful reputation for bigotry. Could someone start a football forum?

Burnley does have a reputation for bigotry....

But you forgot to mention it’s a very LABOUR town...

You are going to need another reason...

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:15 am

Of course diane Abbott is not a bigot

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:30 am

bobinho wrote:Burnley does have a reputation for bigotry....

But you forgot to mention it’s a very LABOUR town...

You are going to need another reason...

We've also had a lib dem MP as well. Namby pamby racist tree hugging liberal socialist Jack booted herbal tea drinkers.

HarryPottsDesk · Post by **HarryPottsDesk** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 11:41 am

Here they come again.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:42 pm

tim_noone wrote:Can you imagine her in discussion with Donald trump or Putin ....

She'd struggle to hold a discussion with Dicky Pump!

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:55 pm

IanMcL wrote:A 2 year old thread, suggests there is an agenda against this lady.

That's no lady, it's a buttplug for a sperm whale!

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:17 pm

Abbot is no more gonna be prosecuted than elected as a Tory MP . It’s a non story but a high ranking member of a political party really shouldn’t be very publically flouting the law swigging cans on the train , now if she’d took a **** at her seat this may have some mileage ! it’s just common sense and as for a “ media witch hunt “ ... get a grip ffs .

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:52 pm

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You obviously can't debate with right wing idiots so you choose to insult anybody who expresses an opinion contrary to yours,isn't that fascism ?

Not fascism at all. The guy is quite correct that this site is being ruined by, primarily, right-wingers screeching their prejudice to all that will listen.
Virtually every topic aired on here descends into a political slanging match. The few left-wingers , if we must label, are a minority but just as daft for indulging the usual gobshite slabheads.
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FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:25 pm

Diane Abbott has admitted to trying to snort coke, however, she admitted that the ice cubes always got stuck in her nostrils.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:26 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Diane Abbott has admitted to trying to snort coke, however, she admitted that the ice cubes always got stuck in her nostrils.

Makes a change from soggy £20 notes

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:30 pm

Michael Gove's hypocrisy, anyone ?

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:34 pm

Gordon Browm was saddled with WW2 Marshall plan debts that was the greatest con the Yanks pulled as part of our "special relationship".Finally all paid off in 2006.
When Thatcher was in power we had 18% interest rates and house repossessions.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:41 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:Gordon Browm was saddled with WW2 Marshall plan debts that was the greatest con the Yanks pulled as part of our "special relationship".Finally all paid off in 2006.
When Thatcher was in power we had 18% interest rates and house repossessions.

There has never been a “special relationship”. The yanks sh1t on us whilst they rebuilt Germany and Japan. They will climb in bed with anybody for a profit.
They only came into the European war after Churchill showed them intercepted messages between Hitler and Mexico. Discussing an invasion of California.

Fenwick · Post by **Fenwick** » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:18 pm

Well that and Pearl Harbor