Can we get Ings back on loan next season?

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Wed May 31, 2017 2:22 pm

As above guys what do you reckon our chances might be?

Would be very happy with his link up play up top, for me that has been our weak spot this season as we've punted far to many balls directly into Gray which he hasn't controlled at all well.

If Ings was in the hole or just off Vokes it would work much better.

Are Liverpool still friendly with us after the transfer itself?

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Wed May 31, 2017 2:24 pm

Probably less friendly about the game time that Flanno got.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Wed May 31, 2017 2:24 pm

Liverpools Rehabilitation Centre.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Wed May 31, 2017 2:28 pm

We could do a lot worse for a lot more money, depends where he is in the pecking order but I doubt he'll make their first team anytime soon....

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Wed May 31, 2017 2:33 pm

Had too many bad injuries now as Danny , We cannot afford to have other clubs players convalescing here such as Flanno.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Wed May 31, 2017 2:35 pm

will he be fit before deadline day? if so i'd have him. now lpool have signed solanke he could be further down the order there.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Wed May 31, 2017 2:38 pm

He probably wouldn't want to come back here as he might see it as a step back. Would have him back in a flash should he be available though, knows the manager, system and players, bit of a no brainer really. As long as he approaching full fitness that is....

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Wed May 31, 2017 2:41 pm

We play a different system to the one Danny played in. We don't have Trips for a start. I think we need to move on from ex players if we can and find new heroes.

MarkGreen · Post by **MarkGreen** » Wed May 31, 2017 2:44 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:He probably wouldn't want to come back here as he might see it as a step back

I think he will understand a step-back would be beneficial to him in order to get back to proper fitness. Keano bit the bullet to leave United to go to a smaller club, and now look at him.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Wed May 31, 2017 3:24 pm

His goalscoring feats in the Championship then the Premier League got him a move to Liverpool. Injuries have curtailed that progress. A few goals with us might just be the kick start his career needs. Certainly wouldn't be disappointed seeing him here for a while.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Wed May 31, 2017 3:28 pm

Hes better than our current offering so yea

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed May 31, 2017 3:39 pm

And the obsession with re signing former players continues

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed May 31, 2017 3:56 pm

joey13 wrote:And the obsession with re signing former players continues

Or you could state facts, and say

And the obsession with resigning former players, better than what we have got continues.

I don't care where the players have played or play, if they improve us and SD thinks they are good enough, 'til do for me!

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:09 pm

joey13 wrote:And the obsession with re signing former players continues

Certain irony in your username.

Ps I I know you chose it from the first time... Still made me chuckle

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:13 pm

I wouldn't be obverse to Danny Ings on a season loan providing he is here pre season for a full fitness assessment.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:15 pm

We survived without Ings this time.

I'm sure we can do it again.
Anyone know when he's likely to recover from his knee injury?

He might not want to come back either, he will attract attention from.bigger clubs.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:24 pm

Let's move on from ex players,we are better than them now,they choose to leave,not our fault they failed miserably..onwards and upwards!

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:27 pm

joey13 wrote:And the obsession with re signing former players continues

These types of comments always make me laugh. What is wrong with wanting someone who has already preformed well for our club and is at a similar level to us? It's not like he's suggesting re-signing Marvin Bartley is it.

Ings has connections in the area, he's a fan favorite and he's a damn good player if he's fit. Did you throw a hissy fit when we signed Keane after his short spell with Blackburn? Who they've played for is irrelevant, if the evidence suggests they are good enough then I'm happy to sign them, the evidence from Ings previous time with us would suggest he IS good enough, it's his injuries we don't know about.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:30 pm

I wouldnt worry to much about his injury record the way Dyche uses loan signings. Ings would have offered as much this season on one leg than the striker we actually had on loan did

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:32 pm

Yeah if only we had played Bamford more

He was signed as cover I reckon by about year 2038 everyone will accept this

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:37 pm

Yeah if only we'd have used the loan opportunity to sign someone who could challenge our existing strikers

That would be critiquing Dyche I reckon by about 2038 some posters might accept this

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:44 pm

I don't think it's as much an obsession as being a known quantity. We all know Ings (or for that matter Rodriguez) are better than what we currently have so it's only an obvious thing to mention former players.

For what it's worth, I'd have him back in a flash. Terrific footballer. Pace. Technical ability. Creativity.

I don't think he'll play for Liverpool as I'm sure they'll strengthen further so he'll probably need to look elsewhere for first team football so why not here?

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:48 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Yeah if only we'd have used the loan opportunity to sign someone who could challenge our existing strikers

That would be critiquing Dyche I reckon by about 2038 some posters might accept this

And if the said players,put a shift in on the training ground maybe they would challenge our existing strikers.
I reckon by about 2038 some posters will accept this.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Wed May 31, 2017 4:53 pm

bartons baggage wrote:And if the said players,put a shift in on the training ground maybe they would challenge our existing strikers.
I reckon by about 2038 some posters will accept this.

Don't blame the player blame Dyche, all the cool kids are doing it. Some posters work hard to earn the dingle tag

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Wed May 31, 2017 6:50 pm

He was good for us let's move on. The amount of serious injuries he's had for someone so young, I'll be amazed if he makes much of a career a premier league level.

Ok, he might play a few games but can't see anyone taking a risk on him.

Same goes for Austin, very good player but a liability with injuries.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Wed May 31, 2017 7:11 pm

Walt wrote:He was good for us let's move on. The amount of serious injuries he's had for someone so young, I'll be amazed if he makes much of a career a premier league level.

Ok, he might play a few games but can't see anyone taking a risk on him.

Same goes for Austin, very good player but a liability with injuries.

I could see quite a few of the teams in the bottom half fancying him regardless of his injuries. Looked likely to break into the Liverpool team before his injury and it's a shame it didn't work for him. Seems like there is bad blood for a few because he left, admittedly not in this post. For the record I think he's young enough, and has enough desire to recover. If he's anywhere near the standard he was he will be good enough as a different option for our team. We've certainly missed someone to link the play as he could.

Putting my tin hat on but I'm matey with a lad who knows him quite well from Crow Wood, he's convinced that should a move to us arise, Danny would be interested. Maybe this sounds harsher but he also thinks that should he return and play well he'd look to leave soon after. He is ambitious with his career, but he's smart enough to know he's not going to crack the Liverpool team as it is. He certainly won't let loyalty stand in the way though and does see us as a stepping stone (admittedly he has fond memories here), but I'm not sure that would concern me providing we got him playing. I do understand why it would bother others.

Should it happen, let's let the medical team decide?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed May 31, 2017 7:24 pm

I don't think he will have the same burst of pace so it's a no from me.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Wed May 31, 2017 7:33 pm

Robbie Blake

Joey Barton

If Ings comes back and plays anything like those two its really a no brainer, offers something different also.

We know he has been quality for us obv depending on his fitness issues/level if he's on the shortlist...

claretabroad · Post by **claretabroad** » Wed May 31, 2017 7:35 pm

Is it four times he has suffered a terrible knee injury? I'd be worried if he was our only option but if it is in addition to other alternatives then I'd consider it.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Wed May 31, 2017 7:37 pm

We could do a pay per play deal like Darren Anderton

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Wed May 31, 2017 8:03 pm

I still can't believe we didn't, either, take Spurs' 13m offer or hold out for the same from Liverpool, when it obvious he wanted to go.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Wed May 31, 2017 8:12 pm

Diesel wrote:I still can't believe we didn't, either, take Spurs' 13m offer or hold out for the same from Liverpool, when it obvious he wanted to go.

I might be wrong but I don't think the deal was concrete from Spurs.i believe we kept him because there would have been more combined value in potentially staying up and getting a tribunal than him leaving at that point. Didn't do to bad considering how things have turned out.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Wed May 31, 2017 8:21 pm

What about this for a formation:

..................................Heaton .....................................

.............Keane..............Tarks.....................Mee..........

Lowton............Hendrick............Brady................Ward

.......................................Ings.......................................

..........................Vokes...............Gray..........................

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:25 pm

Diesel wrote:What about this for a formation:

..................................Heaton .....................................

.............Keane..............Tarks.....................Mee..........

Lowton............Hendrick............Brady................Ward

.......................................Ings.......................................

..........................Vokes...............Gray..........................

Not for me.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:33 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Not for me.

Well prepare yourself for disappointment because it won't get better than that line-up.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:34 pm

Diesel wrote:Well prepare for the disappointment because it won't get better than that line-up.

i'd have serious doubts if we deployed Hendrick and Brady in a central midfield pairing.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:35 pm

Did no one seen the quality of stanislas when he was at turf moor? Gone from strength to strength at Bournemouth ..don't think he angled for a move either,not particularly injury prone No doubt he's ambitious also! Don't understand the love affairs with former injury prone players.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:37 pm

I'm guessing 3 at the back is the new trend?
Its been a variation of 4-5-1 changing to 4-3-3 when attacking for a while now so I suppose we were due a change.

Wembley09 · Post by **Wembley09** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:45 pm

No thanks, did he even kick a ball in the first team this season? How much football has he played over the last 2 years? Also imagine he will be on a hefty wage at Liverpool, that we would be expected to fund. Let him go Bournemouth he wants to get out.

Would rather see Jay Rod back here, even with his recent injury problems.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed May 31, 2017 9:50 pm

Aaaaargh!

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Wed May 31, 2017 10:18 pm

boatshed bill wrote:i'd have serious doubts if we deployed Hendrick and Brady in a central midfield pairing.

..because you quite obviously don't understand the mechanics of a 3-4-1-2 system.

I've got more coaching badges than you can shake king dongs dick at.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed May 31, 2017 10:20 pm

Diesel wrote:..because you quite obviously don't understand the mechanics of a 3-4-1-2 system.

I've got more coaching badges than you can shake king dongs dick at.

'Is that so' Wow!

Elizabeth · Post by **Elizabeth** » Wed May 31, 2017 10:39 pm

Diesel , can you do something to get me a coach to Blackpool in July?

I'm looking to treat the family and need someone in the trade.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed May 31, 2017 10:47 pm

Elizabeth wrote:Diesel , can you do something to get me a coach to Blackpool in July?

I'm looking to treat the family and need someone in the trade.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed May 31, 2017 10:49 pm

Diesel wrote:..because you quite obviously don't understand the mechanics of a 3-4-1-2 system.

I've got more coaching badges than you can shake king dongs dick at.

Not too worried about your coaching qualifications to be perfectly honest, they have absolutely no effect on the concerns I would have with that midfield