'Serious interest' in Shane Long

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:48 pm

From same source who told us about Brady.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:50 pm

This source is absolutely bang on with everything Irish.

I can understand the interest but not entirely convinced he is much better than what we have. Unless we are selling Gray.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:52 pm

I think he'd be a very good option, whether we sell Gray or not.

minnieclaret · Post by **minnieclaret** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:53 pm

unless Gray signs a new contract I would think he's done. Certainly not good enough to allow to run out a contract.

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:55 pm

I think he fit's us better than Gray just because of his aerial ability

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:01 pm

I would take Long and I think he would suit our system.
Are there anymore Irish players we can sign?

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:I would take Long and I think he would suit our system.

Has someone convinced you that he's better than Ashley Barnes in the last 5 minutes then?

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:06 pm

S.Long, K.Long, and C.Long?

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:07 pm

I think he'd be a perfect fit. He's exactly the sort of player we need to enable us to make the next step up.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:07 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Has someone convinced you that he's better than Ashley Barnes in the last 5 minutes then?

May be we're trying to a acquire a team full of 'Longs" - first Kevin, then Chris and now Shane.

I remember doing similar on Sensible World of Soccer back in the 1990s.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:09 pm

A good PL striker with a solid if not spectacular goal record. I think he'd fit us quite well.

Any Southampton fans offered to drive him up here yet?

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:16 pm

Mixed emotions from me on this.

At the beginning of this season he's exactly the sort of striker I would have been happy with, and I think he's a good player.

He is 30 though, and while I do believe he's a better all round player than Gray, I still don't believe he will score more goals. At this point he'd be a lovely 3rd option to have, but I'd be underwhelmed if we signed him for a starting berth.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:19 pm

I like him, personally. And I think he's more of a Kevin Phillips / Jermain Defoe type who will still be athletic, playing and scoring well into his mid 30s

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:20 pm

I'd be very happy if we signed Shane Long. Think he's a good player.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:26 pm

like i said I would take him. But it doesn't exactly get the heart rate pulsating.
Has he ever hit double figures in the premier league?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:27 pm

2015/16 10 goals in 28 appearances for Southampton

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:30 pm

Never been a fan of his tbh. Certainly has pace though which we need.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:31 pm

Fair enough. Can't complain with that return.
Maybe a partnership of Vokes/ Gray and long could be dangerous.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:32 pm

That return is his best in the PL, usually about 8 a season from more appearances.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:32 pm

Think he would be an excellent signing if we could pull it off.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:38 pm

his two most valuable assets are his pace and more importantly his nous. He wins free kicks galore just by annoying defenders, perfect player for us in our quest to become the Republic of Burnley. Roy Keane will need a season ticket

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:39 pm

Think this would be a terrible signing, he's no better than Gray or Vokes and he's 30. I would like us to sign players that are actually good rather than just a grafter as we already have enough of those.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:43 pm

Slurpy wrote:I think he fit's us better than Gray just because of his aerial ability

Bit confused by this slurpy... we have Vokes whose aerial ability is beyond question!

On the subject of Shane Long.... yes please. If we are to improve, and S Long WOULD improve us, we will do it slowly, and without betting the ranch. It's worked so far.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:44 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:Think this would be a terrible signing, he's no better than Gray or Vokes and he's 30. I would like us to sign players that are actually good rather than just a grafter as we already have enough of those.

Theres a lad from Belgium I could recommend...

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:45 pm

bobinho wrote:Bit confused by this slurpy... we have Vokes whose aerial ability is beyond question!

On the subject of Shane Long.... yes please. If we are to improve, and S Long WOULD improve us, we will do it slowly, and without betting the ranch. It's worked so far.

Gray doesn't win headers, Barnes doesn't have pace. Long has both these attributes making him an ideal partner for Vokes.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:46 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:Think this would be a terrible signing, he's no better than Gray or Vokes and he's 30. I would like us to sign players that are actually good rather than just a grafter as we already have enough of those.

So a guy who has spent pretty much his entire career in the PL is no better than

our 3 strikers ? Ok

As a side note, he would need to be better at staying on side, a few games I've watched him in this season he can be frustrating

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:47 pm

Was he one of the Irish players we were interested in during Steve Cotterills early days? I seem to recall there were a couple we wanted to sign ( was the other Seamus Coleman ? ) but we couldn't raise the 80k or whatever was needed ?

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:50 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:S.Long, K.Long, and C.Long?

Clong, Klong and Shlong.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:53 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Was he one of the Irish players we were interested in during Steve Cotterills early days? I seem to recall there were a couple we wanted to sign ( was the other Seamus Coleman ? ) but we couldn't raise the 80k or whatever was needed ?

Was it not Kev Doyle and Long who both went to Reading?

JTClaret · Post by **JTClaret** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:53 pm

I'm a big fan of him.
He's the type of striker I'd see as 'ideal' for Burnley in the position we are in.
Why not add to the Irish contingent.

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:53 pm

Shane Long normally plays on his own up top but I remember him forming a great partnership with Jelavic that kept Hull up in the 13/14 season, before Southampton came in with an, at the time, bizarre offer.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:57 pm

Think you may be right KR

Ilkley claret · Post by **Ilkley claret** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:57 pm

Would not do anything for our reputation as a long ball team!

longside72 · Post by **longside72** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:01 pm

I think he would be a good "addition" to the squad . Not the TOP quality signing we would all like but a very good squad member .

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:14 pm

Ronaldo and Messi are just a little beyond us at this stage.

Shane Long would improve us, no doubt. And he's a good footballer, which means he could carry the ball from the number ten area into the box. I believe this is the right way to go. We aren't yet ready for TOP quality signings. We can't afford them, and they won't come. Hopefully Long will. Keeps us moving in the right direction.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:17 pm

Good player and would help improve the overall quality of the squad.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:17 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:

So a guy who has spent pretty much his entire career in the PL is no better than our 3 strikers ? Ok

As a side note, he would need to be better at staying on side, a few games I've watched him in this season he can be frustrating

His highest scoring season in the Prem is 10 in a team that finished 6th that season. Something Vokes has already accomplished in a much worse team. He really doesn't offer a big enough upgrade.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:18 pm

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:S.Long, K.Long, and C.Long?

S.H.Long actually

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:21 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:His highest scoring season in the Prem is 10 in a team that finished 6th that season. Something Vokes has already accomplished in a much worse team. He really doesn't offer a big enough upgrade.

Maybe, but if you are expecting us to get a much bigger upgrade I think you will find we will be 25 million short of the 40 million or so required to do so !

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:22 pm

His goal record is very much unspectacular at this level and shows (on that front) he wouldn't improve us...

However, I think he does offer more than goals, and I think he would suit our system. Not getting any younger but he could do a decent job for us for a couple of years I think.

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:52 pm

Buy him now.

It would stop him scoring against us for starters.

CharlieinNewMexico · Post by **CharlieinNewMexico** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:58 pm

a lot of those appearances are as substitute though. In Premier minutes played he has an excellent record. A goal every 283 minutes and an assist every 543. So you're saying a career Prem 12 goal and 6 assist a season striker we should not be looking at?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:12 pm

understand your view Charlie. But as we all know there is a reason a player is used for the majority of his career as a sub. He either can't last a full 90 minutes or his impact is only significant in short bursts.

Tbf I think he could be useful coming on at 70 minutes against tired legs.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:25 pm

Holly Molly what a time to be an Irish Claret i say .
Yep Longy has pace and mean real pace and has some jump on him as well , again a very good buy if we land him .

Jel · Post by **Jel** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:31 pm

It would certainly help when launching a long ball!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:33 pm

Tribesmen wrote:Holly Molly what a time to be an Irish Claret i say .
Yep Longy has pace and mean real pace and has some jump on him as well , again a very good buy if we land him .

Our third strip next season is going to be green and white.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:06 pm

3 goals this season, 10 goals last season and 8 the one before in the league.

People have complained about the number of goals Gray got yet people think we should sign a bloke who's only ever scored double figures in the PL once...

He's just not that prolific and its generally accepted that we need more goals from our strikers.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:23 pm

we could have Aguero up front and it wouldn't make a difference, we need the creativity from the midfield and wingers to create more chances

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:34 pm

cutsy123 wrote:S.H.Long actually

I really hope that's true.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:47 pm

Two or three years ago I might have said yes to Long but not now.
Not sure his pace is that good and no better than Gray and at 30 years old
he's probably seen his best years. No resale value either.

Think there's other younger players just as pacey who might cost a bit more
but will have just as much to offer over a longer period and we'll recoup on them.