That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

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That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:13 am

Ten games played in the First Division with 66 goals scored. I doubt that record will ever be beaten.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Crewe claret » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:18 am

God I remember that boxing day match my dad and uncle took me and the queue to get in was horrendous, Burnley were 2-0 up before we got in, I will never forget the atmosphere great day

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:29 am

Crewe claret wrote:God I remember that boxing day match my dad and uncle took me and the queue to get in was horrendous, Burnley were 2-0 up before we got in, I will never forget the atmosphere great day
We went 1-0 up but United pulled it back to 1-1 and we didn't go back in front until just before half time.

Attendance was over 37,500.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Crewe claret » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:45 am

Sorry Tony must be my memory fading I was 9 at the time and I knew we had gone ahead as we stood in the queue perhaps the second roar was from the United fans ha!!

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by 1963Claret » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:49 am

Then we managed to lose the return game 1-5 with George Best scoring his first United goal I think. West Ham won the return 3-1 at Deadwood if memory serves.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by claretblue » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:57 am

too much Christmas pudding for some methinks! :D

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by basil6345789 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:11 am

My first season ticket year. Great times playing for Rosehill Junior School Saturday mornings, followed by 't Turf in the afternoon, home for tea then nipping out to Peacock's shop for 't Pink and a quarter of wine gums about 6 o'clock.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Mondsley » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:30 am

Was at both the home and away games. Remember Ian Towers and Paddy Crerand knoking seven bells out of each other on the Turf. And was the away game one of George Best's early games for UTD? Or possibly his debut. At least we beat them on aggregate!

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by claretfern » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:50 am

Googling that season, it shows Arsenal & Sheffield Wednesday would go forward into the following season's Inter Cities Fairs Cup competition. Interesting, in that they finished 6th & 8th respectively. I realise there was, at that time, a requirement in having to be a City in order to play in the competition. ( Burnley bucked that trend in 1966/7) Given that Manchester United, Chelsea, Tottenham & Everton finished higher, could anyone confirm how Arsenal & Sheffield Wednesday got 'the nod'?
PS: Blackburn finished 7th & Clarets 9th.
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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:59 am

Crerand sent off at Turf Moor, Best's second game for them(debut at home to WBA in Sep.) and he and the other winger,Willie Anderson, were exceptional that day. For the younger fans, Burnley fans,including me and my cousin were in the Stretford End terrace and seats. No trouble,just rival chanting.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by claretblue » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:09 am

'...could anyone confirm how Arsenal & Sheffield Wednesday got 'the nod...'

think the criteria was the 'teams city' had to have held a Trade Fair at that location

Confirmation:

the competition was set up to promote international trade fairs. Friendly games were regularly held between teams from cities holding trade fairs and it was from these games that the competition evolved. The competition was initially only open to teams from cities that hosted trade fairs and where these teams finished in their national league had no relevance
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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by claretfern » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:56 am

claretblue wrote:'...could anyone confirm how Arsenal & Sheffield Wednesday got 'the nod...'

think the criteria was the 'teams city' had to have held a Trade Fair at that location

Confirmation:

the competition was set up to promote international trade fairs. Friendly games were regularly held between teams from cities holding trade fairs and it was from these games that the competition evolved. The competition was initially only open to teams from cities that hosted trade fairs and where these teams finished in their national league had no relevance
Many thanks for this. However, I wonder how Arsenal were chose over both Chelsea & Tottenham?....all based in London.....

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:48 pm

claretfern wrote:Googling that season, it shows Arsenal & Sheffield Wednesday would go forward into the following season's Inter Cities Fairs Cup competition. Interesting, in that they finished 6th & 8th respectively. I realise there was, at that time, a requirement in having to be a City in order to play in the competition. ( Burnley bucked that trend in 1966/7) Given that Manchester United, Chelsea, Tottenham & Everton finished higher, could anyone confirm how Arsenal & Sheffield Wednesday got 'the nod'?
PS: Blackburn finished 7th & Clarets 9th.
It was all done on invitation with recommendations from the league. One thing was certain, no more than one club from any city could enter so once Arsenal were in it ruled out both Chelsea & Spurs. Man United and Everton, I'm not sure of the reasoning for those two being bypassed.
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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by FulledgeClaret » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:54 pm

plenty of goals that weekend and two future England managers scored.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by UpTheBeehole » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:06 pm

FulledgeClaret wrote:plenty of goals that weekend and two future England managers scored.
With their assistant also scoring

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by dsr » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:45 pm

Mostly local matches, apart from Chelsea v Blackpool and Blackburn v West Ham. Why didn't they swap opponents, then they could be home in time for tea?

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by claretblue » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:54 pm

The Clarets relying on their Scottish forwards that day! ;)

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Pstotto » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:03 pm

Not the only freak occurrence that day. West Ham and West Brom both had exactly the same attendance of 34,500, was that just a typo, though? Maybe Blackburn scoring eight goals was a typo, too. Don't believe everything you read.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:08 pm

FulledgeClaret wrote:plenty of goals that weekend and two future England managers scored.
And future England assistant manager Howe who was assistant to both of the scoring future managers

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote:And future England assistant manager Howe who was assistant to both of the scoring future managers
And 3 players scored 4 goals which I would guess is also a record ?

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:03 pm

FCBurnley wrote:And 3 players scored 4 goals which I would guess is also a record ?
Hadn't spotted that, but certainly some achievement on the same day.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:06 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Hadn't spotted that, but certainly some achievement on the same day.
4 goals is quite rare, let alone x 3

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Claretmatt4 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:42 pm

Second highest attendance in a top flight game week eh?

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Quicknick » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:59 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:Crerand sent off at Turf Moor, Best's second game for them(debut at home to WBA in Sep.) and he and the other winger,Willie Anderson, were exceptional that day. For the younger fans, Burnley fans,including me and my cousin were in the Stretford End terrace and seats. No trouble,just rival chanting.
In 1965-66 at the United game at Turf Moor, there was a hell of a lot of trouble. Both sets of fans were in the Cricket Field End and after Alex Elder stroked home a last minute penalty to make it 3 nil, both sets of fans invaded the pitch and fought a full-on battle.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by ontario claret » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:18 pm

Yes. It was -5 degrees Fahrenheit, the coldest day on record here in Southern Ontario. Isn't that the record you were referring to?

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by South West Claret. » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:42 pm

Ah the 60's the decade where you could get your head caved in for a very reasonable admission charge if you happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time... other then that a great time to be a Burnley fan I think you will agree :D

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Buxtonclaret » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:20 pm

Pstotto wrote:Not the only freak occurrence that day. West Ham and West Brom both had exactly the same attendance of 34,500, was that just a typo, though? Maybe Blackburn scoring eight goals was a typo, too. Don't believe everything you read.
The 'Chairman/Boards' turnstiles never counted officially. ;)

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by bfcmik » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:29 pm

8 of those 10 fixtures will take place next season. 4 in the Premier League and 4 in The Championship. The games involving Blackpool and Rovers are not even close to happening again any time soon!

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Pstotto » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:23 am

Burnley quite clearly used to down the attendance figures for a bit off the tax. Everyone knew it. I started drinking in the Red Rock when I was 16 because it was the local policeman's pub, so you could be sure of a lock in. :D

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Dum Spiro Spero » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:05 am

I see that there were only ten fixtures and that Arsenal and Birmingham did not play that day ? Anyone know why ? I have no idea.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Quicknick » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:13 pm

I was wondering that, too.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by Claret&Green » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:29 pm

Dum Spiro Spero wrote:I see that there were only ten fixtures and that Arsenal and Birmingham did not play that day ? Anyone know why ? I have no idea.
Don't know why they didn't play on Boxing Day but match took place on Dec 28th '63. Final score Birmingham 1-4 Arsenal.

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Re: That record breaking Boxing Day in 1963

Post by claretblue » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:46 pm

Claret&Green wrote:Don't know why they didn't play on Boxing Day but match took place on Dec 28th '63. Final score Birmingham 1-4 Arsenal.
only 5 goals! - phhhhht! :roll:

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