3m Striker bid

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:55 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... lters.html

I bloody hope we don't waste 3m on him

crap goal scoring record, most goals he's ever scored in one season was only 13 in the championship 10 years ago, that is the only time he's hit double figures in any season, in the prem he averages 6 a season

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:57 am

Would be a great target man for us

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:57 am

Good replacement for Boyd

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:00 pm

Would take him good player at this level.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:01 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Good replacement for Boyd

For Boyd ????? he's a striker not a winger

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:01 pm

Not sure about him replacing Boyd. He's a striker, but has played central midfield / in the hole. I don't imagine we'd play him outwide.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:04 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Would take him good player at this level.

at this level he doesn't score goals for a forward, in fact he doesn't score goals at any level

Burnley loyal · Post by **Burnley loyal** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:04 pm

Be a better replacement for arfield

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:04 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:For Boyd ????? he's a striker not a winger

Not in the conventional sense.

He is a grafter. Capable of playing up top or out wide. Probably a blend of Boyd and Barnes if anything.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:06 pm

An overall record of 1 in 5 and slowing down,
34 in September ,
He's an older, slower Ashley Barnes IMO

It's a no from me.

Edit - I'd take Crouch though.

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:07 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Would take him good player at this level.

Any work being done today?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:07 pm

Got away with playing at the top level for a long time then. Need this type of player with a lot of experience at this level along with other signings.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:08 pm

We sound a bit desperate reminiscent of the 2nd promotion.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:09 pm

Shocking record over 18 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Walters

This Burnley Team needs goals more than just grafters it what was missing last season

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:09 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:Any work being done today?

Nearly summer!

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:10 pm

He's significantly better than Ashley Barnes. I'd hope we'd also be looking at a Gray replacement and a genuine number 10 as well though.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:10 pm

The thing is, if we did sign him, I'd be hoping he'd be nothing more than a utility bench player, who can cover a few positions. But the report says he's unhappy at not playing, which isn't good, unless Dyche has told him he won't be guaranteed to start. I'd want better for a first team player.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:16 pm

Too old for us, I don't get where they make some of these stories up from, really lazy journalism.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:18 pm

Maybe its a smoke screen like robertson/taylor

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:20 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Good replacement for Boyd

He wouldn't even be a good replacement for Andy Lochhead and how old is he now?

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:25 pm

Will change the Irish quartet to a quintet

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:26 pm

A Dyche type player and I think the description of a cross between Boyd and Barnes is quite good. Not really and out and out striker as record would suggest. A good grafter and has looked good at this level when I have seen him. A useful option but not the total answer.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:27 pm

Next bid for Crouch then?

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:29 pm

No point in letting go of Boyd if we are going to go sign Walters.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:31 pm

Good Premier League know how. Played this level for a long time. The likes of Stoke and West Brom seem to have an abundance of players with this know how so I don't think us signing someone like this for a fee a small as £3m is a terrible move...

PS - Saw him play as a lone striker for Eire in the recent international (where Kevin Long played) and he led the line with good aggression and energy.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:33 pm

Would be a very good signing.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:36 pm

I think he would be a good addition to the squad as long as Gray stays or we get someone like Shane Long if he goes.

Right, where's the Midfield coming from?

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:37 pm

Would be a super signing for us.

Don't look exclusively at his goal return, cricketfieldclaret is right - he plays out wide more than he does up top these days (for Stoke anyway), and is literally the embodiement of the way our team plays. He runs through brick walls for his team, grafting non stop. Physical, good in the air, plenty of know how at this level.

Three million sounds a lot for a 33 year old, but I think he would do such a good job for us at least one season, probably two as he has never been about pace.

To be clear, I see this as 100% a replacement for Boyd - not (potentially) a replacement for Gray. I am sure he would be a wide player for us who could cover up front/be thrown more central in a pinch if chasing a goal late on. He also would suit us in the option of going 4-3-3/4-5-1 as a wide forward on the right hand side, if we ever felt like doing that - something Gray (for me) could not do.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:39 pm

jedi_master wrote:Would be a super signing for us.

Don't look exclusively at his goal return, cricketfieldclaret is right - he plays out wide more than he does up top these days (for Stoke anyway), and is literally the embodiement of the way our team plays. He runs through brick walls for his team, grafting non stop. Physical, good in the air, plenty of know how at this level.

Three million sounds a lot for a 33 year old, but I think he would do such a good job for us at least one season, probably two as he has never been about pace.

To be clear, I see this as 100% a replacement for Boyd - not (potentially) a replacement for Gray. I am sure he would be a wide player for us who could cover up front/be thrown more central in a pinch if chasing a goal late on. He also would suit us in the option of going 4-3-3/4-5-1 as a wide forward on the right hand side, if we ever felt like doing that - something Gray (for me) could not do.

You would give him a 2 year deal ?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:41 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Good replacement for Boyd

Now you are joking!

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:42 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:You would give him a 2 year deal ?

I absolutely would.

Not sure why the age is such a big concern to people - we need players for the here and now. We aren't building for the future, we are fighting to survive at this level as long as we can.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:45 pm

Perfect fit for us- very much in the Arfield mould but more street wise

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:45 pm

We can't give Boyd a 2 year and yet we can give walters a 2 year? Bizarre!

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:45 pm

jedi_master wrote:I absolutely would.

Not sure why the age is such a big concern to people - we need players for the here and now. We aren't building for the future, we are fighting to survive at this level as long as we can.

Because he his slower than vokes and barnes lets just hope its just a rumour and nothing more

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:46 pm

Don't mind him to be honest, certainly fits in with the way we play.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:46 pm

Perfect fit for us- very much in the Arfield mould but more street wise

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:46 pm

Good short-term signing. We need a mix of younger hungry players ( Taylor) who are long term signings and experienced short term lads like Walters to keep us in this division year by year. Offer him a big bonus if we stay up...makes sense.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:46 pm

Good player with lots of Premier League experience. I rather not know how much the deal would cost though.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:49 pm

Misread the thread, thought it was our three millionth striker bid.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:52 pm

bfcjg wrote:Misread the thread, thought it was our three millionth striker bid.

Our 3 millionth bid, and we've just got to the stage of offering £250k up front

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:03 pm

Walters out wide, Vokes and Barnes upfront, what a pile of sh##e that would be to watch, some on here would still claim we aren't a hoofball team.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:04 pm

Imagine us hitting it long for Walters and Barnes. Can't wait for August.

rishtonclaret · Post by **rishtonclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:05 pm

Am I the only one who is underwhelmed by this if true? £3m for a 34 year old and we've already got 2 target men. I don't see Walters as much of an upgrade on Vokes or Barnes. We need to keep Grey or get a direct replacement with pace and a decent first touch. Everton would be getting Grey on the cheap and we'll find it hard to replace him and Walters not the option for me.

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:16 pm

I sincerely hope I hear nothing further on this appalling potential signing.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:17 pm

rishtonclaret wrote:Am I the only one who is underwhelmed by this if true?

Nope, read above, there's a few.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:23 pm

SkiptonClaret wrote:Imagine us hitting it long for Walters and Barnes. Can't wait for August.

We don't really exploit vokes' aerial prowess at the moment, so I can't see us changing in that way.

Undecided about Walters. It's a bit "meh" I think. Had this been rumoured 3 years ago, then I would've taken him no question. The age thing IS important, to disregard it is folly imo. At some point the legs go. 3m is a lot if his legs go during an arduous pre-season.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:23 pm

So far (and I'm not against him as a signing) it's looking very much as though it will be more of the same, style wise. It's definitely evolution not revolution but I do hope we look for some genuine pace and skill. I want to see someone who will bring a bit of excitement to go with the effort and work rate.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:25 pm

This would be about as inspiring as re-signing The Juke.

Cubanclaret · Post by **Cubanclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:30 pm

Reading the thread above Rishton, I would suggest that you are not the only one underwhelmed by this signing.

He played very well in that recent Irish game. And he will be champing at the bit to make the squad for Russia.

He also played very well for Stoke in their 2-0 home win against us. Scored a lovely goal.

I think he's been a popular player wherever he's played and could be a canny signing.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:31 pm

we would just need Martin O'neil and then we can re-brand completely