Royal Pay Rise

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:32 pm

Queens Sovereign Grant to rise by 8% next year.(BBC)

Partly to pay for repairs to Buck Palace.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:34 pm

I'm sorry the Country can't afford it.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:35 pm

Magic money tree innit.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:36 pm

The Royal family get stick, but IMO they pay for themselves and then some, surely?

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:41 pm

Immigrant benefit scroungers.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:43 pm

Saxoman wrote:The Royal family get stick, but IMO they pay for themselves and then some, surely?

They cost us £334m per year net, prior to these inflation-busting pay rises
https://www.republic.org.uk/what-we-do/ ... new-report

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:53 pm

One man's Magic Money Tree is another man's Gravy Train.

lovebeingaclaret · Post by **lovebeingaclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:59 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:They cost us £334m per year net, prior to these inflation-busting pay rises
https://www.republic.org.uk/what-we-do/ ... new-report

We now believe all we read?

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:13 pm

I've not got a problem at all with the Royals; they are money well spent.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:21 pm

One of the best tourist investments there is, they have probably given billions to tourism over the years.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:26 pm

Given? given nothing they are not payed to give.

Healeywoodclaret · Post by **Healeywoodclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:34 pm

I haven't got a problem with the Royals. I DO have a problem with Anti British Anti Military left wingers.

geopancake · Post by **geopancake** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:47 pm

At least the Queen's a taxpayer and therefore contributing herself to her new jacuzzi...

Oh wait a minute!!!

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:53 pm

It's time that the civil list was reduced.Andrew wanted his idle daughters to join the gravy train but he was knocked back.
There is a charge to go in the palaces this is adequate to cover all repairs.
All grace and favour accomadation should carry a fair rent.There are too many with their lavish lifestyles being paid for by tax payers which has to stop.
Harry wants to be a real person.No problem he trained as a soldier let him re-enlist

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:57 pm

Can't be much left on that Magic Money Tree for non urgent things like the NHS and Schools

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:01 pm

Saxoman wrote:The Royal family get stick, but IMO they pay for themselves and then some, surely?

Never. ever thought Saxo would say something with which I agree.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:22 pm

It's their country ultimately.

If you don't like it stage a revolt and get them deposed.
They do more good than harm though if you take the long view.

Would we be any better or worse off in a republic?
The palaces would still need maintaining like they are in other countries that killed off their royal families.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:23 pm

Healeywoodclaret wrote:I haven't got a problem with the Royals. I DO have a problem with Anti British Anti Military left wingers.

You're not a Corbyn fan then HWC

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:33 pm

President Thatcher ? Blair ? Branson ? Sugar ? Boris ?

I think I'd rather have the monarchy.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:56 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Given? given nothing they are not payed to give.

I mean by in a roundabout way. If they were not there, people would not visit and go to see things like the changing of the guard because we would not have one.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:58 pm

Sidney1st wrote:It's their country ultimately.

If you don't like it stage a revolt and get them deposed.
They do more good than harm though if you take the long view.

Would we be any better or worse off in a republic?
The palaces would still need maintaining like they are in other countries that killed off their royal families.

And if we killed them off, I am dam sure the "Lawyers for Us" crowd would be in claiming bloody compensation.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:59 pm

I would sooner it go there than into a pot for the unwaged.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:03 pm

The money allocated is a percentage of the profits of The Crown Estate. It's usually 15%
but this has been increased to 25% to cover the extraordinary cost of repairs.

The balance, 75%, goes into the public coffers.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:07 pm

Over payed and over here...send em back I say

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:12 pm

HatfieldClaret wrote:President Thatcher ? Blair ? Branson ? Sugar ? Boris ?

I think I'd rather have the monarchy.

How about President Dyche?

Now that's surely got you thinking

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:15 pm

Nop sorry he's unavailable at this time.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:01 pm

Sidney1st wrote:It's their country ultimately.
.

This isn't an anti-royal post, but that is absolutely not true. It's our country, and they "rule" by our consent. We are a "constitutional monarchy", and we could - if we wished, have a referendum to abolish the monarchy altogether.
On balance I favour retaining the monarchy, but that's in large part because I think the current monarch has done a good job. My view on this could easily change if we had the misfortune to have a monarch who behaved differently, and was less of a statesman and ambassador for the country.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:09 pm

I'm up for the renovation of the buildings, the architecture and the touristy stuff... we don't need the Royal family though anymore. Its a bit old fashioned, I think.

When Liz snuffs it, I hope the whole thing is rebooted.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:13 pm

"When Liz snuffs it"...well CTU really how un English of you - I'm going to report you to the.. well you know someone or another

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:17 pm

I'm more of a Republican and have no time or connection with the Royal Family whatsoever but even I would concede that the Queen has done a decent job doing Queenie things.

It's the Prince Andrew types with his charting of a private plane or whatever at the cost of thousands and thousands of pounds to go galivanting off to play golf in Australia or wherever that really pi55 me off.

After the Queen has gone who can do the same sort of job and not exploit the massive privileges that they have?

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:22 pm

I might be available at the right price

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:26 pm

Can you shake hands and talk posh 'cos if so the job's yours

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:28 pm

Must be the worst job in the world, everything you do watched and reported in the papers before you have had your breakfast. No amount of money can make up for not been able to lead your own life. Still working at 90 too.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:31 pm

mkmel wrote:Can you shake hands and talk posh 'cos if so the job's yours

Thanks MK..I'll sleep on it.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:35 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:One of the best tourist investments there is, they have probably given billions to tourism over the years.

Sorry, but I just don't get this one.

I think Versailles gets a lot of visits, no-one really goes to see the royals, just their palaces.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:37 pm

yorkyclaret wrote:Must be the worst job in the world, everything you do watched and reported in the papers before you have had your breakfast. No amount of money can make up for not been able to lead your own life. Still working at 90 too.

You call that working? You clearly haven't been around the world or if you have must have had selective vision and hearing.

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:56 pm

Of course it's working. No, I havn't been round the world, I am lucky enough to be able to pick the places that I want to visit, and generally meet the people that I want to meet.

geopancake · Post by **geopancake** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:59 pm

Archaic and no longer needed, just like day care centre full of peers, born to their role.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:59 pm

yorkyclaret wrote:Of course it's working. No, I havn't been round the world, I am lucky enough to be able to pick the places that I want to visit, and generally meet the people that I want to meet.

Say no more then.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:26 pm

Saxoman wrote:The Royal family get stick, but IMO they pay for themselves and then some, surely?

So what exactly does Prince Edward do that is beneficial?

I can understand the Queen, but certainly not him. What's he ever done?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:31 pm

Saxoman wrote:The Royal family get stick, but IMO they pay for themselves and then some, surely?

So what exactly does Prince Edward do that is beneficial?

I can understand the Queen, but certainly not him. What's he ever done?

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:34 pm

Spijed wrote:So what exactly does Prince Edward do that is beneficial?

I can understand the Queen, but certainly not him. What's he ever done?

Didn't he do "It's a knockout " one year ?

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:39 pm

The queen is 91 years old and still works harder than 99% of Labour voters

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:43 pm

What a stupid comment!

yorkyclaret · Post by **yorkyclaret** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:29 pm

Hardy the first on this thread, and at least it was witty.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:58 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Sorry, but I just don't get this one.

I think Versailles gets a lot of visits, no-one really goes to see the royals, just their palaces.

I think a lot of foreign tourists go to these palaces etc hoping to catch a glimpse of the queen or a Royal or two, not realise they are sunning themselves in one of their tourist resorts.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:59 pm

And just a note, does nobody know how to spell ,.......paid ffs.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:27 am

Spijed wrote:So what exactly does Prince Edward do that is beneficial?

I can understand the Queen, but certainly not him. What's he ever done?

Reproduces?

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:05 am

joey13 wrote:Didn't he do "It's a knockout " one year ?

You can turn a frog into a Prince, but you can't turn a Prince into a Marine....

Handing out D of E awards lately......

When the Diana v Camilla row was on a few years ago I took the stance that the monarchy, as an establishment, is greater than individual members, individual kings or queens. I think it would be short sighted to get rid just because of the popularity of a single monarch at the time.

President Dyche ? Sorry Mel, God doesn't do politics......

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 8:22 am

So that's at least £1 billion to prop up an incompetent prime minister, and an 8% pay rise for the most privileged family in the world.

Meanwhile you've got people burning to death in buildings on the back of saving a few grand, and public services cut to the bare bone in the name of austerity.

This country seriously needs to recalibrate its priorities, because this is nothing short of insulting.