The Huddersfield Way

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:13 pm

Decent players being signed early ,decent manger signing a new two contract, exactly the sort of thing we should be doing .

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:16 pm

joey13 wrote:Decent players being signed early ,decent manger signing a new two contract, exactly the sort of thing we should be doing .

So who exactly are these decent players we should be signing?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:19 pm

I often find myself wishing were doing it the 'Huddersfield way.' Imagine where we would be then.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:23 pm

Are Huddersfield this summer's Middlesbrough?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:29 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Are Huddersfield this summer's Middlesbrough?

Without a doubt

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:30 pm

Are we allowed to mention the debt they accrued of £40 million in the championship?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:32 pm

Very different in terms of style of play. Boro played long ball, Huddersfield pass it much more on the ground (and imo played better football last season in the Championship than Boro did in the Prem). I think Huddersfield will surprise a few (like they did last season when the bookies had them as going down) and they're improving where they need to improve. I think they'll stay up.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:34 pm

The way it is sounding everyone is going to stay up this season except us

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:36 pm

The way it is sounding claretdom everyone should buy a season ticket at Huddersfield!

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:38 pm

Just because clubs splash cash early it means nothing. Look at Mboro. Our squad is already stronger as it is and we have a manager who has kept us up already. Nothing at all wrong with what we are doing.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:40 pm

The problem Huddesfield have is re-signing their loan players on. This will take up to 20 million of what i would guess will be a budget of 40 million. That is just so they are what they were.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:40 pm

Huddersfield finished the season with a minus goal difference.

A minus goal difference.

They are going to have to outscore teams at this level.

Good luck with that.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:40 pm

They are doing what they think will give them the best chance of survival, remember this is their first crack at it, just because their approach was, and is different to ours doesn't mean it is better or worse than our 1st, 2nd or 3rd attempts.
Only time will tell.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:41 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Very different in terms of style of play. Boro played long ball, Huddersfield pass it much more on the ground (and imo played better football last season in the Championship than Boro did in the Prem).

Whereas Boro got promoted automatically and Huddersfield hardly set the Championship alight by scraping through, via the play-offs.

If they had played better football, as you put it, they wouldn't have been so far behind the clubs automatically promoted (12 points).

As for surviving, their defence needs completely replacing as a minus goal difference will spell disaster.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:43 pm

If you look at the end of their cup game with Man City you can see the potential gulf in class when the big clubs turn it on. It is a big bridge to gap as we have found before.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:43 pm

Spijed wrote:Whereas Boro got promoted automatically and Huddersfield hardly set the Championship alight by scraping through, via the play-offs.

If they had played better football, as you put it, they wouldn't have been so far behind the clubs automatically promoted (12 points).

As for surviving, their defence needs completely replacing as a minus goal difference will spell disaster.

Ok.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:52 pm

I would hardly say Huddersfield are doing a Middlesbrough.

They have signed Mooy for 10m and Depoitre for an undisclosed fee.

We spent 6m on Fletcher when we went up under Coyle. In todays football money that's a more than 10m

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:52 pm

So they paid £10m for this Mooy bloke from City.

He played for them last season so signing him permanently does not improve their team.

Huddersfield`s stats last year were a long way behind ours (or Boro`s and Brighton`s) the season before. Didn`t Huddersfield not end up with negative goal difference ?

Their squad is by far the weakest in the Premier League and they need to spend a lot more than £20m to get it anywhere near even the likes of Brighton and ourselves.

As for this Portuguese player they have signed - how does anybody know he is "decent" ? I doubt whether anybody has heard of him and scoring goals in some of the weaker European leagues is very different to scoring in the Premier League.

Personally I think the biggest thing going for Huddersfield is their manager.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:02 pm

£8m for Mooy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40289316

Selby Claret · Post by **Selby Claret** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:03 pm

Striker Depoitre signed a 4 year deal with Porto last summer and has been allowed to leave 12 months in after only 2 goals

Mooy they already had

Its defenders they need....

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:06 pm

Signing Mooy is great for them. It might not improve them from last year, but they'd be weaker without him.

Just because every team doesnt do things the way we do it doesn't mean it isn't right. We had these threads about Leicester a few years back. What have they done since? Exactly, clubs have different ways of approaching things.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:08 pm

RocketLawnChair wrote:The way it is sounding claretdom everyone should buy a season ticket at Huddersfield!

You will have a job , they have sold out

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:08 pm

RocketLawnChair wrote:The way it is sounding claretdom everyone should buy a season ticket at Huddersfield!

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:09 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Are we allowed to mention the debt they accrued of £40 million in the championship?

They haven't got a debt

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:10 pm

Sidney's obsessed with this 'debt', brings it up all the time.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:10 pm

claretdom wrote:The way it is sounding everyone is going to stay up this season except us

That would be great, 3 years parachute payments x 3.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:12 pm

TVC15 wrote:So they paid £10m for this Mooy bloke from City.

He played for them last season so signing him permanently does not improve their team.

Huddersfield`s stats last year were a long way behind ours (or Boro`s and Brighton`s) the season before. Didn`t Huddersfield not end up with negative goal difference ?

Their squad is by far the weakest in the Premier League and they need to spend a lot more than £20m to get it anywhere near even the likes of Brighton and ourselves.

As for this Portuguese player they have signed - how does anybody know he is "decent" ? I doubt whether anybody has heard of him and scoring goals in some of the weaker European leagues is very different to scoring in the Premier League.

Personally I think the biggest thing going for Huddersfield is their manager.

Try getting your facts right before spouting off , they haven't signed a Portuguese player

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:16 pm

So no one mentioning Hoyle persuaded Wagner to sign a longer contract, something our board can't do with Dyche and the reason Dyche is linked with nearly every vacancy in the premier league which in itself creates instability.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:18 pm

joey13 wrote:So no one mentioning Hoyle persuaded Wagner to sign a longer contract, something our board can't do with Dyche and the reason Dyche is linked with nearly every vacancy in the premier league which in itself creates instability.

Manager contracts are irrelevant because if Wagner got approached by a bigger club than Huddersfield and he wanted to go they'd be pretty much powerless to stop it.

A managers contract is totally different from the one a player signs.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:42 pm

joey13 wrote:So no one mentioning Hoyle persuaded Wagner to sign a longer contract, something our board can't do with Dyche and the reason Dyche is linked with nearly every vacancy in the premier league which in itself creates instability.

If you think Wagner won't be linked with any other jobs for the next year because of his 2 year contract, you might be surprised.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:43 pm

I'm still working on the Derby Way.

If there's a Huddersfield Way, it'd be getting outscored over a season then winning a couple of penalty shootouts. To be fair, it worked pretty well. Their main purpose this season is to be everyone's favourite away trip. And if we stay up I'd like them to also, if only for this reason.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:12 pm

Huddersfield are going to struggle. Poor defence, little bite up top and a team and management with little EPL experience.

I predict relegation

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:13 pm

joey13 wrote:So no one mentioning Hoyle persuaded Wagner to sign a longer contract, something our board can't do with Dyche and the reason Dyche is linked with nearly every vacancy in the premier league which in itself creates instability.

Only signed for two years and then only because he didn't get other potential jobs. Our board would happily give Dyche a long term deal but it's not something Dyche wants.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:18 pm

joey13 wrote:Try getting your facts right before spouting off , they haven't signed a Portuguese player

Does it really matter which country he comes from ? - still the same point...nobody has heard of him and yet people are saying Huddersfield are doing well in the transfer market.

This signing was only £3.5m and he played in the Portuguese league last year - he only played 13 times. Prior to that he was in the Belgium league which is an awful league

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:22 pm

Why are you writing him off just because you haven't heard of him? Would you do the same if we signed someone from abroad you hadn't heard of, just because of your poor grasp of football knowledge?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:46 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Why are you writing him off just because you haven't heard of him? Would you do the same if we signed someone from abroad you hadn't heard of, just because of your poor grasp of football knowledge?

Poor grasp of football knowledge ? Ha ha - so you knew who this guy was did you ?

Who is writing him off anyway ? I`m saying why are people congratulating Huddersfield on the amount of money they are spending and players they are signing when they no little or nothing about them ?

I am not writing off some player I have never heard of - in the same way I`m not going to say he is a good signing.

And the underlying intimation in these posts and the title of the thread is that Burnley are not doing enough in the transfer market and we should be doing it the "Huddersfield Way".....which I think we did in the past in signing players like Hennings for a couple of million.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:56 pm

Not sure what's wrong with what they've done so far. They need players and will need to shell out a decent amount to get anyone. Some shrewd looking purchases. All totally understandable but none worry me. They'll get relegated in my opinion but they're having a good go, fair play.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:22 pm

This forum has an eternal chip on their shoulder.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:28 pm

Have Huddersfield got any good players in their defence?

We still got relegated in 2015 despite having Trippier, Mee, Keane & Heaton in our back line and unless you have at least some evidence of quality survival is highly unlikely, regardless of whether you strengthen in other areas or not.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:28 pm

Huddersfield will be complete whipping boys this season. Any team with serious designs to stay up this season must be finishing at least three spots above them.

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:28 pm

Spijed wrote:Have Huddersfield got any good players in their defence?

We still got relegated in 2015 despite having Trippier, Mee, Keane & Heaton in our back line and unless you have at least some evidence of quality survival is highly unlikely, regardless of whether you strengthen in other areas or not.

The right back Tommy Smith is good

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:43 pm

Huddersfield will no doubt approach the season different to ours. They will attack more an try and get enough 3 point wins for survival. Sitting back and defending doesn't work most of the time like Boro tried, so lets see.
We stayed up this time as we got on the right side of a lot of 1-0 wins which could of gone any way.

On the Mooy signing- If he has improved for having a very good year in the championship then it will improve the side this year.

But lets hope our signings are better than theirs.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:47 pm

Don't see the fuss about Mooy, he just played in the Con fed cup and was League one standard at best, the games passed him by.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:48 pm

Schindler and Lowe are both decent defenders. I think they conceded so many because of the style of football they play. They are very attacking, the full backs are more like wing backs. It worked to a degree in the Championship because they went up. I don't think it will work in the Prem though. If they go for it every game they will get caught on the break and punished

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:49 pm

Our 08/09 and 09/10 seasons are good parallels for Huddersfield I think.

We went up via the playoffs having a goal difference only just over neutral. We didn't have a single player in the team of the year.

We went out and splashed some big money (relative to size of club and income) on Fletcher and Bikey.

We then took our open, attacking game to the Premier League, and if we'd have won our 6 pointers would have stayed up.

Huddersfield are only doing exactly the same.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:07 pm

"If we would have won our 6 pointers we would have stayed up"

mmmm ?

The fact we got beat twice by most of the bottom teams (other than Hull) meant that we were nowhere near good enough. It`s not like we were losing out or drawing to last minute winners or equalisers every week (I only remember Wigan away losing in the last minute)

We did not perform in hardly any game that mattered after Christmas and but for the 2 wins in meaningless games against Spurs and Hull (away) we`d have finished with a points total similar to Sunderland this year.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:15 pm

That's what I just said - if we'd have won our 6 pointers we'd have stayed up.

Instead our board made a brainfart decision in appointing League One Laws, and we surrendered meekly in vital games against Portsmouth, Wolves, Wigan, Blackburn, Bolton....

Turn up in those games and we stay up remarkably easily. Win just 2 and we stay up.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:25 pm

joey13 wrote:They haven't got a debt

It was there at the end of the 2016 season I think.
Unless their owners written it off, but it jumped from a couple of million to approx £40million in a just a few years.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:36 pm

Not sure what your point is.

My point is that we were nowhere near staying up that season - I agree 100% that the Laws appointment was shocking - but the team was basically the same as under Coyle and the rot of not winning games started under Coyle in November / December time.

We did not stay up because the team we had was poor and the likes of Wigan, Wolves, Blackburn and even Portsmouth has better players than us. It`s easy saying if we would have "turned up" and won a couple of these games we`d have stayed up.....we did turn up for all of them and we got beat because they were better than us.

Wigan great example - everyone thought we should be beating teams like Wigan at the Turf.....they played us off the park and had much more experience and quality than us after a number of seasons in the Premier League.

The proof of how poor we were was seen the season after and how quickly the likes of Jordan, Carlisle, Caldwell, Jensen and many others were playing for teams way down the leagues.

This wasn`t the case for the Dyche teams. Most players leaving went on to big and better things. Only Fletcher really did that under Coyle / Laws.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:38 pm

TVC15 wrote:We did not stay up because the team we had was poor and the likes of Wigan, Wolves, Blackburn and even Portsmouth has better players than us.

We didn't have better players than Man Utd, Sunderland, Everton, Spurs etc.

Take those performances and replicate them against the teams down near us, we'd have slaughtered them.