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What an afternoon of Sport - Froome's effort may (not quite sure) have even eclipsed Federer's 8th Wimbledon - certainly eclipsed Lewis who wins his 5th British Grand Prix and his 5th Chelem - won't talk about the cricket
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79/4
Croft gone!!!
Croft gone!!!
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What about a team helping their G.C. rider? Couldn't one get any team to work for any rider that latches on?
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Pstotto it all comes to personal/shared interest - in 2015 on a flat day the crosswinds played havoc - Froome with Thomas and Peter Sagan with a Team mate broke away with over 10km to go they worked together - Sagan won the stage and Green jersey points - Froome managed to gain over 40 seconds on his rivals plus 6 bonus seconds for 2nd place
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You are seeing Dan Martin benefitting now as well
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Froome leads all the GC contenders bar Martin across the line - I think he scared them today when he managed to get back to them
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What a shame.
In that half hour segment of racing that encompasses what TDF is all about in what can only be described as the best piece of recovery riding in recent years and Froome gets booed?!
In that half hour segment of racing that encompasses what TDF is all about in what can only be described as the best piece of recovery riding in recent years and Froome gets booed?!
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I thought that billyh... they really don't like him so they?
Froome brilliant!
Froome brilliant!
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If he actually required any further motivation it was there for him in abundance.
Top rider, true champion.
Top rider, true champion.
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Pity about the boos,but brilliant riding from Froome and Landa to recover what could have been a terrible situation.
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The French fans think he is a grade A pr*ck. Whether that is deserved or not I would expect people on this board to be able to empathise with that feeling ala Tim Sherwood et al
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Expect nothing less from the French - as I said previously they hate Sky and Froome, there has been a vendetta in their press since sky formed with their huge budget and instant success - some of it is understandable (see Armstrong/US Postal and Indurain/Banesto). Surprised Bardet didn't go on the Attack at the front himself, would have commited Landa to protect himself rather than go back to Froome
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Indurain? What has he done?
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Stevie it was the Banesto team domination over the peleton that US Postal took to it's zenith and Sky have aped - French don't like being dominated in their own race. Remember they haven't won it since 85. Think of Liverpool and league titles quite similar really - they think it is theirs and no one elses
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Sorry,thought you were comparing Armstrong and Indurain in person,not teams.I totally understand where you are coming from.
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Indurain another class act.
Got a pic of him in TDF 1990 when he made a break on Alpe d'Huez.
I took it on the steepest section with my Canon Sureshot and he was going that fast they were all blurred.
Gutted.
Got a pic of him in TDF 1990 when he made a break on Alpe d'Huez.
I took it on the steepest section with my Canon Sureshot and he was going that fast they were all blurred.
Gutted.
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The French have long thought Wiggo and Froome are druggies. Wiggo might be suspicious, I don't agree with TUEs, but Froome has never failed a drug test and his tests from a young man have all lined up as natural.
This is more ironic as two of Frances TdF heroes, Jalabert and Virenque, were both proven druggies.
BTW that was a totally awesome stage and thank god he caught them before the summit or he could have been cooked.
He'll welcome the rest day tomorrow, as will his team.
This is more ironic as two of Frances TdF heroes, Jalabert and Virenque, were both proven druggies.
BTW that was a totally awesome stage and thank god he caught them before the summit or he could have been cooked.
He'll welcome the rest day tomorrow, as will his team.
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Never would dream of thatStevie2112 wrote:Sorry,thought you were comparing Armstrong and Indurain in person,not teams.I totally understand where you are coming from.
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Jacques anquetil was another druggie too - though that was a different era - same as our own Tom Simpson
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chapeau to Romain Bardet for calling out the French fans for booing Froome.
He described him as a great champion. In the heat of battle that takes some doing.
He described him as a great champion. In the heat of battle that takes some doing.
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The next 4 days are going to be full on - really looking forward to some dramatic racing
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Four massive climbs to come on Wednesday and Thursday, all over 2k in altitude with longies The Galiber and Croix De Fer included.
It is Froome's race to lose with the time trial in Marseilles on Saturday and the strongest team but the rest know they must attack him.....and they will.
Should be some of the best attacking cycling seen for many a year.
It is Froome's race to lose with the time trial in Marseilles on Saturday and the strongest team but the rest know they must attack him.....and they will.
Should be some of the best attacking cycling seen for many a year.
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Arguably the best Tour for many years, for a variety of reasons and it is going to get better this week.billyhamilton82 wrote:Four massive climbs to come on Wednesday and Thursday, all over 2k in altitude with longies The Galiber and Croix De Fer included.
It is Froome's race to lose with the time trial in Marseilles on Saturday and the strongest team but the rest know they must attack him.....and they will.
Should be some of the best attacking cycling seen for many a year.
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AG2R didn't look shabby when they led out Bardet on Sunday. Froome might be down to Landa, Nieve, Kwiatkowski and Kiryalenka when it gets steep. I'll still put me thrupence on Froome.billyhamilton82 wrote:It is Froome's race to lose with the time trial in Marseilles on Saturday and the strongest team but the rest know they must attack him.....and they will.
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potential for crosswinds today - good stuff for those with teams that get on the right side of the breaks
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Eschelons already - as we start the first climb - going to be a very tough day
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Sunweb driving this along, to distance Matthews from Kittel, is aiding Sky.
Need to be vigilant in cross winds not to get wrong side of a split.
Need to be vigilant in cross winds not to get wrong side of a split.
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Dan Martin the prime victim to day as the quickstep lurgy takes full effect - who is going to have the legs for the next few days - personally think Ag2r will have more team members at the front in the Alps than Sky - whether that is enough is difficult to say as those sky climbers are very very good
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I just see Sky getting stronger and stronger from here, possibly minus one tough day in the mountains.
Attritional day in the wind today!
Attritional day in the wind today!
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Sky do know how to defend a lead. If they put Landa up the road the other leading teams will have to work and allow Froome and Co. an easier ride.
Another stage with a long descent after the final summit. Have the French set this route for Bardet?
Another stage with a long descent after the final summit. Have the French set this route for Bardet?
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piston broke wrote:Sky do know how to defend a lead. If they put Landa up the road the other leading teams will have to work and allow Froome and Co. an easier ride.
Another stage with a long descent after the final summit. Have the French set this route for Bardet?
Today has the makings of a classic stage. Anything is possible. I just hope nobody crashes out.
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with you there 007 but not looking good for Marcel Kittel after that crash - he was struggling before that
Sky shut down the peleton to let all held up by the crash back on - trying to get 2 of their own riders back on Sergio Henao and Luke Rowe - why Henao was so far back I don't know but that does not bode well
Sky shut down the peleton to let all held up by the crash back on - trying to get 2 of their own riders back on Sergio Henao and Luke Rowe - why Henao was so far back I don't know but that does not bode well
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Kittel has abandoned - Mathews should now win green jersey
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Barry Hoban talking on ITV earlier saying in his day green jersey points were only awarded for the finish and he'd win the intermediates wish were cash prizes.
Kittel has virtually gained all his points for stage wins but the jersey is for best allround rider. Possibly needs looking at.
Kittel has virtually gained all his points for stage wins but the jersey is for best allround rider. Possibly needs looking at.
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didn't they change it because of Mark Cavendish winning 6 stages in a single race and the HTC road train lead out delivering him to the front of the sprint
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good question but i dont know the answer, Chester.Chester Perry wrote:didn't they change it because of Mark Cavendish winning 6 stages in a single race and the HTC road train lead out delivering him to the front of the sprint
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Pippa York back on itv4 tomorrow for the last mammoth mountains stage - excellent insight on tactics which greatly improves an already excellent programme - chapeau itv
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This has been a strange tour for sprinting. Losing Cav so early gave Kittel free rein for the outright sprints and Sagans DQ meant the tougher sprints were his as well. Greipel and Demarre were poor. Historically a sprinter could win a couple back to back then someone else would have their day in the sun.
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possibly not after looking through Cav's palmares won the green once and only held it in 3 different tours - 2010 he won 5 stages and was never in green, 2009 won 6 stages and held but didn't win green.piston broke wrote:good question but i dont know the answer, Chester.
Cav was the last before Sagan to win Green - I think there was a change in points a few years back for Sprint stages to get more points at the finish (now 50), whereas Mathews only got 30 yesterday, and for intermediate sprints to be significantly less (20) in contrast.
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30 yesterday. It was classed as a rolling stage not a flat.
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congrats that man. not a name i knew before this tour but he's enlivened a few breakaways and fully deserved a win.
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Anyone see this - just an idea of what it takes to ride in the TGF
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Last chance probably for the contenders to make inroads on Froome - will someone take a chance and go for a long one (Martin possibly) or will it come down to the last 3 or 4 km - personally think it will be the latter and also don't believe a breakaway will be allowed because even the bonus seconds will really matter - still looking forward to a highly competitive stage - even with the Sky roadtrain
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Not quite the fireworks we were hoping for - but still an interesting day - should be Froome's now and Uran likely too get 2nd overall
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Great day for Froome and Sky today.Hopefully all done and dusted now before the time trial tomorrow.
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Froome dropped Bardet and Uran so easily before they caught him on the short downhill I'm amazed he didn't go again.
Sky race control is absolute. Year after year they break the oppositions hearts and legs.
Sky race control is absolute. Year after year they break the oppositions hearts and legs.
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All we need now is some severe crosswinds tomorrow so legs cannot be rested for Saturday
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Absolutely fantastic by Froome and Sky. Perfect tactics.
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I agree with the above about Froome and the Sky tactics being played out brilliantly. For me though, Mikel Landa has been the main main on the roads... the way he has protected Froome (yes I know that's his responsibility) has been fantastic!
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Skys main strength has always been their Lieutenants. It was Froome for Wiggo then Froome was supported by Porte, a couple of times and Uran. This year it should have been Thomas but following his crash Landa has been immense. said on comms today he could be off to be a team leader.jdrobbo wrote:I agree with the above about Froome and the Sky tactics being played out brilliantly. For me though, Mikel Landa has been the main main on the roads... the way he has protected Froome (yes I know that's his responsibility) has been fantastic!