Tour de France 2017

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:14 pm

Congratulations to British rider Geraint Thomas who picks up the first yellow jersey of the 2017 tour. Chris Froome with an admirable 6th place after todays time trial.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:41 pm

Excellent outcomes for Thomas and Froome. I fancy Quintana this year.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:59 pm

Quintana looked shaky in the giro but I agree he's the favourite. These Yates' stand a chance but am I being too patriotic??

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:41 pm

Froome wasn't great in the Dauphine which is usually a good guide to Tour form.

The Yates brothers are good riders but can't see them on the podium unless a few others go the way of Valverde.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:40 pm

Quintana lost his major lieutenant today when Valverde crashed out of the time trial having smashed his knee cap - race could be all over if sky utilise the crosswinds early in the week and get into the front eschelons like they have in the past - no Stannard to put in the hard miles but Rowe, Kiryienka and Thomas should be good enough if they link up with lotto soudal and offer Greipel the stage in trade

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:43 pm

just seen how things can hit you out of the blue in this race - a rider falls at the front of the peloton and takes out half of team sky and AG2R - they have managed to get back but Froome in particular has damaged his bike and lost skin on his cosic which will aggravate over the next few days. Kwiakovski is Froome's minder - one hell of a support to count on is that

Oliasclaret · Post by **Oliasclaret** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:23 pm

Looks like a very good performance today from Cav after all his troubles and only 5 weeks of training. I think he got 3rd in the sprint ( still waiting for the official result )

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:30 pm

Cav got 4th but as you say very encouraging I agree

Froome says he will be fine

Thomas still in yellow and looks like he is trying to grow a moustache - not sure why - maybe just while he is in yellow

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:28 pm

Is this on tv? My sister and bro-in-law are well into this and we went to see the Tour De Yorkshire.

Stevie2112 · Post by **Stevie2112** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:30 pm

It's on ITV4 and Eurosport every afternoon

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:31 pm

Cheers, ITV4 it is then. Eurosport's commentary always seems to be a let down, especially snooker and football.

Stevie2112 · Post by **Stevie2112** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:33 pm

Eurosport commentary on the cycling is unsurpassed,Carlton Kirby really knows his stuff as does Sean Kelly

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:41 pm

When do they reach longwy?

Stevie2112 · Post by **Stevie2112** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:43 pm

Tomorrow i think.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:51 pm

Stevie2112 wrote:Tomorrow i think.

About an hour from my folks place, in case you were wondering..

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:17 pm

Two nasty crashes at the end of today's stage - Sky taken out again and Cav then pushed by Peter Sagan into the barrier lands on his head/shoulder and another cyclist rides right into him as he was on the ground

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:38 pm

Judging by Cav's response in an interview he suspect's his tour is over - same shoulder as he did at Harrogate a few tours back

Stevie2112 · Post by **Stevie2112** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:47 pm

Nasty crash for cav today,doesn't look good for him,after a poor season with illness.

tally · Post by **tally** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:52 pm

Just thinking Sagan could get kicked out of tour after seeing umpteen relays !

Stevie2112 · Post by **Stevie2112** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:53 pm

It does look like he deliberately knocked him off,but these things happen in racing,so doubt anything will be done.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:03 pm

He got a 30 second time penalty

Karhu_Claret · Post by **Karhu_Claret** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:08 pm

He's just been disqualified. Right decision in my opinion.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:08 pm

Now sky reporting Sagan has been kicked out of the tour.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:14 pm

Apparently they gave Sagan a 30 second penalty.
Dimension data appealed that decision and on appeal Sagan was kicked off the tour.
Correctly in my opinion.

Stevie2112 · Post by **Stevie2112** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:20 pm

Wow,didn't see that coming.Good on em

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 6:46 pm

I couldn't see it happening either, but the correct decision.
It looked at first as if he was just trying to throw his weight over to regain his balance, but a second look and he definitely wiped him out.

It's a shame the F1 don't have the same set of balls.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:21 pm

Stevie2112 wrote:Nasty crash for cav today,doesn't look good for him,after a poor season with illness.

And, Sky now reporting the tour is over for Cav.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:56 pm

Sagan's team have launched an official protest

https://www.bora-hansgrohe.com/en/news/ ... 4/10894251" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

this isn't over yet

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:32 pm

Massive fan of Cav's but I don't think Segan should've been disqualified. Boardman got it spit on when he said, "They've looked at the consequences too much and not the actual action..."

Right next to Segan, that other cyclist made a far more dangerous move (potentially) hard left, but that wasn't even reviewed.

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:07 am

Absolutely no chance is that a disqualification. When you look at what Cav did in 2011 too he's got nothing to grumble about. Sh!t happens in a sprint

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:19 am

Here is what has got others disqualified in the past

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/pet ... de-france/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:45 am

I think there's a difference.
There's no problem putting your elbows out, making yourself bigger so that someone else has to go round you, but he left Cav nowhere to go but the fence.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:22 am

If you look at the overhead footage, it's obvious Sagan did him deliberately. He moves stadily to the right and elbows Cav into the fence. No excuses.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:00 pm

Strange from BMC today - not worked out for them at all

Fabio Aru class on the climb caught everyone out with how far he could push it - sky won't let that happen again

Froome relatively comfortable and now in yellow - has any team ever kept yellow from start to finish?

Quintana - missing Valverde off the pace and paying the price of completing the Giro

Simon Yates now in White like his twin brother Adam last year and no real contender to take it off him I suspect - should finish high up the overall standings

tally · Post by **tally** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:57 pm

Sky team still controling things but Froome will not have it as easy this year as last. Will have to wait untill the serious sh it starts come this weekend

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:13 pm

Great outcome for Froome. Quintana will be disappointed.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:32 pm

I will answer my own question - in 1970 Eddy Merckx's Faemino-Faema held Yellow from the 1st stage until the end - cycling has moved on a great deal since then so this would be an incredible achievement should it occur. One thing for sure if they do the haters will be out in full effect

ontario claret · Post by **ontario claret** » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:04 pm

Cavendish put his nose in a place where it didn't belong and paid the price. All's fair in love and bicycle racing.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:43 pm

Sagan's team really not letting this lie - trying to get him back in the race as of tomorrow

https://www.bora-hansgrohe.com/en/news/ ... s/10983587" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Winstonswhite · Post by **Winstonswhite** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:22 pm

How can he be let back in if he's missed a couple of stages??

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:54 pm

indeed Winston but cycling is a very strange world

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:55 pm

Kittel looked awesome in today's finish

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:31 pm

Chester Perry wrote:Sagan's team really not letting this lie - trying to get him back in the race as of tomorrow

https://www.bora-hansgrohe.com/en/news/ ... s/10983587" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

CAS have turned the appeal down

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cas-rej ... de-france/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:27 am

Could be a very interesting day today - high potential for crosswinds and therefore time-gaps in eschelons - the big GC teams are in for a hard time - will Sky miss Stannard (the best in the world on days like this) will Quintana/movistar fall back has they have in previous years - will astana keep Aru in the mix. These days can be as exiting as the mountains and demonstrate the need for a GC rider to have a strong team, enjoy.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:52 pm

Steady today for the leaders - winds didn't materialise - so in effect a good way to prepare for the next 2 days in the mountains.

Still not sure how they determined anyone was a winner from that photo-finish from the picture shown

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:11 pm

I've watched it over and over. It was a dead heat and for me, if there had to be a winner, it wasn't Kittel. How they came to the conclusion that Kittel took the line is beyond me!

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:17 pm

According to to Tissot, Kittel won by 6mm, but they refused to provide TV companies with enlarged pics.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Jul 07, 2017 11:38 pm

The pic is on the BBC website - if you look very very carefully Kittel just has it - I think

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:14 pm

https://youtu.be/Yt3p-F2x7rY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:06 pm

All set up for tomorrow - hope it is not a blow out as I am expecting fireworks

Sky will be hoping that Luke Rowe has managed to get over whatever was troubling him today - they will need a full team as I expect them and all the others to be down to 4 or 5 by the 2nd to last climb - it will be brutal