ARTICLE: Bardsley linked with Burnley return

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:27 pm

If Reid was signed for the dressing room , doesn't say a lot for Dyche, thought it was his job to keep the dressing room buoyant.
Bring better players into the team will keep us up not bringing in the likes of Bardsley or Reid .

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:31 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Yet in post #27 you presume to know the inner workings of the Burnley dressing room to the point that a player signed as a first team squad member was actually really just what our dressing room needed and was therefore worth the £000's we paid because of that.

This dressing room cheerleader stuff was made up well into the season when it was obvious hes was a bad signing to deflect the criticism of Dyche as it is to much for the happy clapper snowflakes to cope with

I'been accused of many things over the years on this board but a "happy clapper".... now that is a first.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:32 pm

KRBFC wrote:I buy a better one than the one I currently have, not a sh**y one incase the one I currently have breaks.

It's a good job that Bardsley is better than the one we have then.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:34 pm

joey13 wrote:thought it was his job to keep the dressing room buoyant.

It's his job to keep us up, Joey.

Which he did.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:37 pm

Sidney1st wrote:We need a better option at right back over Darikwa, so we're looking around.

Is it really Darikwa we are looking to replace as im not sure he even made a Premier League matchday squad last season even when Ward was out and we only had two recognised full backs.

What we had is flexitibility with Ward, Flannagan and Mee who could play left back and Lowton, Flannagan, Keane and Tarks who could play right back.

Surely the aim is to give us a speicialised back up option at right back now Flannagan and Keane have gone and the question should be is Bardsley the best value signing we could make to achieve this and not just simply is he better than Darwika.

If the aim is just to improve on Darikwa then we could sign my nan who would be cheaper, have plenty of experience and be great in the dressing room

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:38 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:It's his job to keep us up, Joey.

Which he did.

He didn't when he brought his mate Reid in , did he ?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:39 pm

In what way would your nan be great in the dressing room?

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:41 pm

elwaclaret wrote:I'been accused of many things over the years on this board but a "happy clapper".... now that is a first.

I didnt accuse you of being a happy clapper I accused you of claiming to know the inner workings of the Burnley dressing room which was the exact thing you had a go at KRBFC for.

The happy clapper bit was just highlighting how a made up point of view presented as fact was quickly accepted without question and the reason why a lot on here were happy to do so especially when if you dare to state a negative opinion you are jumped to prove or justify it

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:42 pm

joey13 wrote:He didn't when he brought his mate Reid in , did he ?

No, fair enough, but he was on a learning curve like all young managers, culminating in
last season's success.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:43 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:In what way would your nan be great in the dressing room?

She is great round the lads and helps create a real team spirit plus Dyche has met her several times and stated himself he also thinks she would be great in the dressing room

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:54 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:No, fair enough, but he was on a learning curve like all young managers, culminating in
last season's success.

But last seasons success came from giving it a go in the market, so far this window its like we have gone backwards. 9 week after last season and our starting 11 isn't stronger. I dont think we have done badly this window in terms of boosting squad depth and I was expecting the starting 11 to now be a priority which it doesn't appear to be. Wheres the exciting Brady like signing or even link?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:58 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Is it really Darikwa we are looking to replace as im not sure he even made a Premier League matchday squad last season even when Ward was out and we only had two recognised full backs.

What we had is flexitibility with Ward, Flannagan and Mee who could play left back and Lowton, Flannagan, Keane and Tarks who could play right back.

Surely the aim is to give us a speicialised back up option at right back now Flannagan and Keane have gone and the question should be is Bardsley the best value signing we could make to achieve this and not just simply is he better than Darwika.

If the aim is just to improve on Darikwa then we could sign my nan who would be cheaper, have plenty of experience and be great in the dressing room

We are looking around, someone's made a link but as yet WE HAVEN'T SIGNED ANYONE FOR RIGHT BACK, so all the stropping on here is just hilarious.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:59 pm

KRBFC wrote:But last seasons success came from giving it a go in the market, so far this window its like we have gone backwards. 9 week after last season and our starting 11 isn't stronger. I dont think we have done badly this window in terms of boosting squad depth and I was expecting the starting 11 to now be a priority which it doesn't appear to be. Wheres the exciting Brady like signing or even link?

It isn't stronger?

We've signed Cork to replace Barton.
We've signed Walters who most people will agree is a better option than Boyd if he's going to appear on the flank.

So I think you're wrong about the starting 11 not being any stronger because in some areas it is.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:01 pm

Sidney1st wrote:It isn't stronger?

We've signed Cork to replace Barton.
We've signed Walters who most people will agree is a better option than Boyd if he's going to appear on the flank.

So I think you're wrong about the starting 11 not being any stronger because in some areas it is.

We don't have Marney until January and we are seriously weak at centre-half. It's a valid claim.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:03 pm

While I wouldn't really describe the starting 11 as stronger there's plenty of time still to do this.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:04 pm

For some areas yes, but most clubs would be happy with Westwood, Hendrick, Cork and a fit Defour as their central midfield options.
Marney will just be a bonus IF he's fit in January, but hanging out hopes and season on him returning is just a bit daft.

Lots of PL experience, international experience and some European experience...

rishtonclaret · Post by **rishtonclaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:41 pm

Too many pessimistic posts on here and it's why I don't come on it often. Let's just see where we end up come transfer deadline. As the BFC board say, the aim is to end the transfer window stronger than we started. So yes there's work to do to strengthen in certain positions but will all the moaners just stop moaning and have faith in our board and our manager.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:44 pm

Recruitment is going well. Solid signings who are better than those they have replaced. Bardsley is 50 times the player Darikwa is so this would also be the case here.

Work still to be done but happy thus far.

moaninclaret · Post by **moaninclaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:54 pm

not for me this one, hes too much of a thug, and we certainly cant afford players being sent off, a big risk in my book

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:58 pm

50 times better than Flanagan , just twice as good as Darikwa, imo

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:03 pm

moaninclaret wrote:not for me this one, hes too much of a thug, and we certainly cant afford players being sent off, a big risk in my book

To be fair, Barton didn't have the best of reputations but was excellent under Dyche. I don't think Bardsley will be much of a problem.

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:06 pm

Wheres the exciting Brady like signing or even link?

Aye that one has been exciting so far!

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:24 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Same question at Lb too. Good innit?

Very good. I expect Taylor and Bardsley will have to fight for their place - nowt wrong with that!

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:28 pm

Bardsley keeps being mentioned in the same breath as Walters on here.

The key difference between Jon Walters and Phil Bardsley, is that Walters actually has some Premier League footballing ability left.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:57 pm

Better than Darikwa.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:04 pm

Bardsley Walters and Given all have our thing in commen they are on a downward trajectory.

ayrshireclaret83 · Post by **ayrshireclaret83** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:22 pm

If it's ex loan players then sign Cahill up

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:28 pm

Surely Akinbiyi could teach our strikers a thing or too, and about the right age.

Wonderful around the dressing room, could inspire us to the title if used properly.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:29 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Surely Akinbiyi could teach our strikers a thing or too, and about the right age.

Wonderful around the dressing room, could inspire us to the title if used properly.

He could teach them how to get sent off.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:34 pm

You can't have enough seniors around can you ?

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:11 pm

Can't get excited by this link what so ever. Just reaffirms my opinion that Dyche is very limited in the transfer market.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:13 pm

Right_winger wrote:Can't get excited by this link what so ever. Just reaffirms my opinion that Dyche is very limited in the transfer market.

Only because he isn't a right winger.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:21 pm

Bids in

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:21 pm

Good, solid and experienced alternative to Lowton.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:01 pm

This will be a really good signing.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:11 pm

I support Burnley
Burnley have appointed Sean Dyche to manager the club which includes player recruitment
If he thinks Phil Bardsley is good enough to fit the framework of the team and is the right type of character that will do for me.
Two promotions... championship winners ...and keeping us in the premier league
I think he is the right man to make these decisions.

MiltonKeynesClaret93 · Post by **MiltonKeynesClaret93** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:14 pm

Be a great signing imo.
Only about 8 months older than Stephen Ward so plenty left in the tank.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:27 pm

As I have said on a different thread.

Past his best about 3 years ago, player has got worse every season since.

To say that there are only two clubs in the league that have technically not spent a penny of last seasons money. This is incredibly underwhelming.

File under Reid

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:38 pm

Blyclaret wrote:I support Burnley
Burnley have appointed Sean Dyche to manager the club which includes player recruitment
If he thinks Phil Bardsley is good enough to fit the framework of the team and is the right type of character that will do for me.
Two promotions... championship winners ...and keeping us in the premier league
I think he is the right man to make these decisions.

He may have achieved all that but he still doesn't have the expertise of some posters on here.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:45 pm

Personally, I'd rather we identified a target similar to Taylor, someone to develop and challenge for a first team place.
But I'm not the manager.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:45 pm

I understand that point of view. But come on, we earned approximately 110m last season + 30m in the sale of keane.
If Bardsley is the best RB we can get then that is poor.

RattyClaret · Post by **RattyClaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:47 pm

My wife is happy with this but she seams to think they will now do a "Real housewives of Burnley"

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:50 pm

Two posters in particular

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:51 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:File under Reid

Don't know what system you're using there.

I'll be filing him ahead of Barton.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:10 pm

ablueclaret wrote:Bardsley Walters and Given all have our thing in commen they are on a downward trajectory.

I agree. File them under Joey Barton, Graham Alexander, Mitchell Thomas, Ian Wright, Andy Payton, and others who were also on a downward trajectory. Young inexperienced up-and-coming players are brilliant to have - but you don't want 11 of them in the team, as a rule.

Face it, people - we can't fill the reserves with £10m men just yet.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:12 pm

KRBFC wrote:You were happy with Reid, kind of says it all. Explains why were apart in expectation, you settle for anything, I want us to become the best we can.

Just to clarify your position - are you saying that Dyche didn't want us to become the best we can, or are you saying that Dyche did want us to be the best we can but didn't have your footballing knowledge to make it happen?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:07 am

dsr wrote:Just to clarify your position - are you saying that Dyche didn't want us to become the best we can, or are you saying that Dyche did want us to be the best we can but didn't have your footballing knowledge to make it happen?

Probably the latter, he obviously doesn't watch much football. This isn't me digging at Dyche by criticising the signing of Bardsley I'm just frustrated how the window is heading after a promising start with a couple of good additions. Am I allowed an opinion on players we sign? Some fans just jump on the defensive straight away to defend the club/Dyche when they simply cant get everything right, they're humans after all. Some posters even defended the signing of Reid but would slaughter the dud signings made by Howe/Laws, can some fans just not admit Dyche's mistakes? Really quite strange.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:20 am

More crap talk

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:21 am

Sean Dyche not watching much football.
What planet are you on.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:31 am

KRBFC wrote: [Dyche] obviously doesn't watch much football.

Oh lors!

What a classic.