optimism tempered by apathy.

[Lancasterclaret]

I'm not on every thread, making **** up though am I?

I don't have more than one user name, because I say what I think, rather than what would make me controversial.

I have an opinion on Burnley, cos I'm a supporter who actually bothers to watch them and have done for the best part of thirty years.

If any of them apply to you, I'll be frankly amazed.

[ablueclaret]

Well you'd rather believe made up rubbish by your mate Tufty, says it all.

I too have one username, I have followed this club for 60 years my family for 90 so you've got some catching up to do.

[Bin Ont Turf]

I have followed this club for 60 years

That's the saddest thing in all this.

You are a man in your 60's and you're still continuing this embarrassing repetitive look at me charade on here.

[Chobulous]

I'm not on every thread, making **** up though am I?

I don't have more than one user name, because I say what I think, rather than what would make me controversial.

I have an opinion on Burnley, cos I'm a supporter who actually bothers to watch them and have done for the best part of thirty years.

If any of them apply to you, I'll be frankly amazed.

If you have time to make a post like the above, you have time to try to counter his argument, not just call him names or abuse him. That goes for your friend Mr. Fluffytail as well, although he tries to mask his malice in the quirky persona he attempts to adopt. Like I said, the flock mentality, "must do what everybody else does".

[Bin Ont Turf]

you have time to try to counter his argument,

For the thousandth time.

[Lancasterclaret]

Its two of us, both of whom have argued with ablue in the past sensibly.

He doesn't accept arguments that he's lost, even when it proved to him time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.

I now take the **** when he posts. Its frankly all he deserves.

[ablueclaret]

Ah the man who thought Coyle was God who couldn't wouldn't accept he was a limited tactician , who thought him far superior to Martinez.

[evensteadiereddie]

The post's title is nonsense and its content designed purely to create the effect it has.
The board and Dyche will not spend heavily purely to bring in a "name". Why the hell should they ? Clearly, Dyche has some very firm plans regarding our new campaign and, going off the previous few seasons' experience, he has more than a fighting chance of them working.
"Rumours abounded" regarding his future - no ****, Sherlock, I think rumours abounded about just every half-decent manager over the Summer, as they always do.
Varied opinions are useful and to be welcomed, of course, but I think there is a difference between offering a genuine alternative point of view and posting a silly wind-up exercise for the sake of mischief making. Coyote's effort comes across as the latter.

[Lancasterclaret]

Best you've got?

is this a game of "stuff that we've been wrong about top trumps"?

Remy Smith

*Drops mike*

[ablueclaret]

Remy? call yourself a supporter.

[ablueclaret]

Think that's the kettle calling the bot black.

[Lancasterclaret]

Busted flush mate, busted flush

[ablueclaret]

Need to get a plumber then Lancaster and quick.

[Sidney1st]

Oddest thing on this thread...

People being castigated for apparently throwing abuse around and not taking part in discussion or debate, but the OP is being mysteriously quiet in regards to the comments that offer reasonable debate or discussion.....

So the OP isn't looking for a decent chat then, just rolls it out and hides..

[ablueclaret]

Some people I guess Sidney have to work, not like Landrover employees.

[Sidney1st]

I'm not a Land Rover employee, I sell Land Rover parts and its lunch time for me.
I've also been at work since just before 7am and I'm also capable of doing multiple things at once when I'm on my computer, its quiet easy for someone like me.

[Darthlaw]

What a strange little old man stalking Sid and bringing up his past threads which have nothing to do with the topic...

Anyway, how is your evidence of Dyche wanting to leave BFC coming along you lying sh1t?

Of course SD will come out and say he's never wanted a move away but the available evidence suggests otherwise.

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... 50#p440622

(awaits mention of Coterie, horsemen, etc with baited breath)

[keith1879]

thanks, but that assassment is the opposite of how it works, we are part of a league that is wholly dependant on risk taking and large amounts of money, eventually, even the most thrifty and over cautious have t risk a bit to move on a tiny bit, we aren't doing that.

I don't think we are. I think we are part of a league where true risk taking will inevitably lead to financial disaster. There is no risk in spending large sums of money when someone will underwrite that. (Such as the owners of Blackburn (when they won it), Leicester, Manchester City etc).

[Belial]

ablue doesn't blurt out the same boing personal insults at people day in day out or use ironic quotes such as "as opposed to a "look at me" critic with nothing whatsoever to say"

Definitely two different posters

[evensteadiereddie]

Same objective, though.

[Royboyclaret]

"....I don't think we are. I think we are part of a league where true risk taking will inevitably lead to financial disaster. There is no risk in spending large sums of money when someone will underwrite that. (Such as the owners of Blackburn (when they won it), Leicester, Manchester City etc)...."


Depends very much on your definition of 'true risk taking' keith1879........These are clubs about to embark on the '17/'18 season in the Premier League, in the middle of a golden age of finance where even the mid to lower teams can anticipate an Income in excess of £120 million.

Based on that clubs like Watford, Swansea, Palace etc have come to the realisation that a Wage bill of £80 million is totally acceptable with a Profit at the end of the year guaranteed. A no risk strategy with players earning over £65k per week and each club able to compete for the signature of the top quality players.

Meanwhile we remain unique in our approach with a ceiling of £35k per week and all the built in disadvantages that entails when competing in the market. At some point we either take the plunge and join the game or opt out. I think, or at least hope, that was the kind of potential adventure the OP was referring to.

[claretdom]

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/engli ... b-by-club/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


If those figures are anywhere near accurate are you really saying Watford are raising their wage bill 100% this season ? I know you spent a lot of time trying to convince people the wage bill of every club was double ours but those figures look way off your claim.

[Tall Paul]

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/engli ... b-by-club/


If those figures are anywhere near accurate are you really saying Watford are raising their wage bill 100% this season ? I know you spent a lot of time trying to convince people the wage bill of every club was double ours but those figures look way off your claim.

They aren't anywhere near accurate.

[Claret-On-A-T-Rex]

I like ablue, he is a clarets fan, as opposed to a "look at me" critic with nothing whatsoever to say.

He is nothing of the sort, his name should be enough to tip you off that he is a Blackburn Rovers fan masquerading as a claret to troll the board.

It's like me creating a sock puppet called "A Claretrover" and going on the barstewards board as a concern troll to stir things up.

[quoonbeatz]

Based on that clubs like Watford, Swansea, Palace etc have come to the realisation that a Wage bill of £80 million is totally acceptable with a Profit at the end of the year guaranteed. A no risk strategy with players earning over £65k per week and each club able to compete for the signature of the top quality players.

Meanwhile we remain unique in our approach with a ceiling of £35k per week and all the built in disadvantages that entails when competing in the market. At some point we either take the plunge and join the game or opt out. I think, or at least hope, that was the kind of potential adventure the OP was referring to.

watford, swansea and palace had three of the most apathetic groups of players in the division last season, only really managing to survive when they collectively realised they were in the **** at the last minute.

granted, there's probably only so far our approach can take us but at least paying out performance bonuses rather than guaranteed high wages means we get players who are going to work a bit harder to share in the rewards.

there's pros and cons in each approach and, as ever, its all about striking a balance.

[Bin Ont Turf]

And at Burnley FC we've found that balance.

[Greenmile]

Oooh look, here come the pack followers now, parasitic woodlice to a man.

aka the coterie, or the 6-8 tw@ts

(appreciate I'm late to the party here - some of us have to work)

[Sidney1st]

Ah phew, I'm not a 6-8 tw@t, I'm here all day

[fatboy47]

watford, swansea and palace had three of the most apathetic groups of players in the division last season, only really managing to survive when they collectively realised they were in the **** at the last minute.

granted, there's probably only so far our approach can take us but at least paying out performance bonuses rather than guaranteed high wages means we get players who are going to work a bit harder to share in the rewards.

there's pros and cons in each approach and, as ever, its all about striking a balance.

It's worth remembering that we had the likes of Treacy, Cort and Jensen stinking the place out in the lead up to Dyche's arrival....it's hard to name a single player now that's creating a bad smell.... Dyche deserves credit for shifting a lot of surplus dross.

[Lord Beamish]

If you have time to make a post like the above, you have time to try to counter his argument, not just call him names or abuse him. That goes for your friend Mr. Fluffytail as well, although he tries to mask his malice in the quirky persona he attempts to adopt. Like I said, the flock mentality, "must do what everybody else does".

Mr Fluffytail; brilliant! Withering sarcasm and third-rate pop-psychology; even better.

[Lord Beamish]

ablue doesn't blurt out the same boing personal insults at people day in day out or use ironic quotes such as "as opposed to a "look at me" critic with nothing whatsoever to say"

Definitely two different posters

How hard would it be to create more than one account and then have different personalities for both?
Back on ClaretsMad, Ablue created ButterflyVenom in order to have an outlet to be more directly abusive towards his antagonists. When he came over here he became Wile E Coyote. They are different sides of the same coin.
I'm sure Ablue has other handles, as he's a bit of a wag, you see.

[Sidney1st]

I remember ABC being aredclaret.

There have also been instances where ABC makes a thread and then comments on it like they're being someone different but haven't changed user.

[boatshed bill]

How hard would it be to create more than one account and then have different personalities for both?
Back on ClaretsMad, Ablue created ButterflyVenom in order to have an outlet to be more directly abusive towards his antagonists. When he came over here he became Wile E Coyote. They are different sides of the same coin.
I'm sure Ablue has other handles, as he's a bit of a wag, you see.

Is that true?

Mental if it is!

[Lord Beamish]

Is that true?

Mental if it is!

That is my honest belief.
Even if it's not true, I will persist with the speculation as it really seems to get under their skin(s).

[Darthlaw]

Funny how repeating the same thing without evidence gets under their skin. Even more so, when you have such specific opinions without ever having met him.

I think you should start a post daily about your thoughts, only using different terminology each time. Two posts on days where you're feeling lively.

I can't see that upsetting anyone...

[ablueclaret]

Beamish boy you're so wide of the mark its sad.

Butterfly Venom is Coyotes identity on Clarets Mad keep up.

[Wile E Coyote]

That is my honest belief.
Even if it's not true, I will persist with the speculation as it really seems to get under their skin(s).

dont flatter yourself beamish, you have neither the wit, or class to be of relevance, there are people like yourself everywhere, you contribute nothing except lame and aged insults.
As for the Wile E/ABC connection, you have had it explained to you by CT on previous occasions. You seem to have impressed boatshed bill with your pre school taunts anyway, so that should make your day .

[ablueclaret]

Lovely to see the coterie out in force today.

[Lord Beamish]

Lovely to see the coterie out in force today.

Oh Bravo, AblueCoyote! Such a coincidence that you both posted at exactly the same time! How on earth did you do that if you are both the same person?
Such a feat is truly beyond the wit of anyone with two devices and/or two IP Addresses.

You've out(un)done yourself now.

[Darthlaw]

Ah, the liar resurfaces. With his sidekick too.

Like London buses.

Funny that.

[Belial]

How hard would it be to create more than one account and then have different personalities for both?
Back on ClaretsMad, Ablue created ButterflyVenom in order to have an outlet to be more directly abusive towards his antagonists. When he came over here he became Wile E Coyote. They are different sides of the same coin.
I'm sure Ablue has other handles, as he's a bit of a wag, you see.

It's definitely possible... and very sad if definitely true!!!

[Sidney1st]

I see Wile hasn't really answered the sensible comments, its almost like they're ignoring them...

[Lord Beamish]

It's definitely possible... and very sad if definitely true!!!

Check the run of posts from the two just above.
Is it coincidence that they should post a response at exactly the same time? Or is it more likely a pretty transparent ruse to make it appear that they are separate entities and not the work of the same febrile mind?

[Darthlaw]

I had noticed that they were logged in and out almost simultaneously.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Check the run of posts from the two just above.
Is it coincidence that they should post a response at exactly the same time? Or is it more likely a pretty transparent ruse to make it appear that they are separate entities and not the work of the same febrile mind?

It doesn't really matter if it's the same person or two different people.

They are a couple/one bellend(s).

We've all seen how tapped they are, and I mean properly strange.

[Belial]

Check the run of posts from the two just above.
Is it coincidence that they should post a response at exactly the same time? Or is it more likely a pretty transparent ruse to make it appear that they are separate entities and not the work of the same febrile mind?

Hmmm suspicious indeed

[Bordeauxclaret]

Ablue is a lot more careless with everything this season it would seem. His posts are rushed and lack the tact from previous years.
He used to take his attempts to be controversial more seriously.
Shame really. It's always been sad but at least he was good at it.

[ablueclaret]

This is how Hitler managed people sad that it happens on here.

[Lord Beamish]

This is how Hitler managed people sad that it happens on here.

Yay!

Godwin's Law!

[Bin Ont Turf]

This is how Hitler managed people sad that it happens on here.

It's not an allotment, it's a concentration camp for vegetables.

And your carrots are trying to tunnel out of there, for their own sake.