3rd Division Rovers...

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:20 pm

You can call the various Divisions what you want, to please the marketing people, but it's still 3rd Division !!

They kick off away at Roots Hall, home of Southend Utd... how do you think they'll get on over the Season ?? They're 4/1ish at every Bookmaker to win the title, and Mowbrey seemed to have bought a semblence of order, with some good signings for that level.... Where do you think they'll finish ??

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:23 pm

Depending on their other transfer business they should be around the play-offs.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:23 pm

Bottom!

Ptangyangkipperbang · Post by **Ptangyangkipperbang** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:28 pm

They are well fancied and all the pundits have them down for a first time return.Although personally I think top half of the table is a certainty they may find it a struggle to get a play off spot time will tell about their new players seem to be lower championship cast offs to me and every team will be looking at them as a big scalp similar to us in the 4th division days

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:29 pm

Wherever they finish, it will be below us, I find that a very comforting thought.

Sausage · Post by **Sausage** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:46 pm

Seventh. On the basis I don't think they'll be bad enough to get relegated, I hope they have a relatively successful season which sorely tests the loyalty of the fans and encourages Venkys to retain ownership. In short I'd like them to flirt with the play-offs and either miss out on the last day or get beaten in the semi-finals.

In my dreams they get relegated again on the last day of the season.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:50 pm

An early move into administration will settle my nerves....

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:52 pm

I'm expecting them to get a nice transfer embargo for Xmas.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:57 pm

I'm expecting them to lose any over performing players in January

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:01 pm

At the time of going to press I'd have them top 7. However with the pantomime that is Deadwood, by tomorrow it could be Bottom 7

They've got some tough times to come over the season, but if they can protect the playing staff from the horror show I think they'll around the play offs

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:32 pm

A glance at the popular Rovers messageboard will show that many are expecting this season to be a cakewalk...and others grudgingly prepared to settle for second place. Some of the easily pleased faction are even prepared to accept promotion via the play offs.

Others feel that the problem may prove to be that of being such a massive scalp, providing great motivation for the minnows and rendering every Rovers game a cup final.

Crowds are now expected to flood back to the fold as they ride the crest of the promotion wave.

One or two carpers around who feel it may not prove quite so simple, but the general mood is upbeat and expected to develop into general euphoria after the first few games.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:37 pm

It certainly won't be a cakewalk, Sheffield United are arguably a bigger club than Rovers and it took them 7 years to escape this division,added to the off-field distractions, a few losses at the start of the season and they will soon be calling for TM head.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:39 pm

They should change their name to Blackburn C.I.T.Y

Conference In Two Years.....

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:43 pm

Leeds were stuck in there for a while too weren't they?
Biggest club that leagues seen ever of course.
I think Saints and Bournemouth only got out with some extra financial help.
Portsmouth just passed on through to league 2.

moaninclaret · Post by **moaninclaret** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:49 pm

Think they will be in for a rough ride, all expectations of a quick return will be dashed, mid table i should think, relegation would be lovely, but dont think that will happen unfortunately, we can all dream though lol.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:23 pm

Sold Steele and Lenihan wants out. won't make the playoffs.

claretfern · Post by **claretfern** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:28 pm

Think they've as a good a chance as Bolton had last season...and Bolton are a mess.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:45 pm

With a bit of luck the league will enforce a wage cap on them too, I hadn't thought of that.

AshevilleNCClaret · Post by **AshevilleNCClaret** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:50 pm

Honestly, I didn't think they were that bad to go down last year, but luckily Agent Coyle did his duty and Mombray couldn't quite save them.
They managed to jettison some players in the offseason and picked up a few decent ones, but they are woefully short up front, with only Danny Graham.
Its like Venkys have finally started making some good decisions but it maybe too little too late. 100+ million in debt, voluntary layoffs of staff(which will probably lead to involuntary layoffs if no one takes them up on their offer), and other clubs wanting to get to poach their remaining good players on the cheap (Lenihan and Mulgrew), I don't know if it is a hole they can climb out of, at least anytime soon.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:51 pm

Sidney1st wrote:With a bit of luck the league will enforce a wage cap on them too, I hadn't thought of that.

I don't see how that would work - players are already under contract; the league can't make them reduce their wages, and they couldn't make them sell them or cancel their contracts of no other club was willing to take them.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:56 pm

They're shoite and will just stay up but will have to sell assets and will go down again 't year after.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:25 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:I don't see how that would work - players are already under contract; the league can't make them reduce their wages, and they couldn't make them sell them or cancel their contracts of no other club was willing to take them.

Bolton's new enforced wage cap is for new signings only and its £4500k a week

To tackle their debt, or have a chance of it, Rovers should be offering similar money or less to new signings.

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:28 pm

Between 8th and 14th they will have enough to stay up comfortably so long as they keep Mowbray but there are some decent sides in that league who know what its all about at that level. Bradford Fleetwood Southend Scunthorpe will all be there or thereabouts again at the top, with Rochdale Oxford and the three who came straight up from L2 Portsmouth Plymouth Doncaster also in the mix, add the big scalp mentality many teams will have against them and Rovers will have their work cut out I can't see them walking it as many of the morons from down the road think.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:31 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Bolton's new enforced wage cap is for new signings only and its £4500k a week

To tackle their debt, or have a chance of it, Rovers should be offering similar money or less to new signings.

The possibility of a cap on new signings may explain why they were getting their business done early in the window. Not daft them Venky's.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:32 pm

If they don't get promoted this season it will be interesting to se how they deal with the financial ramifications - likely to overspend this season and go into transfer embargo as it is

Royboyclaret · Post by **Royboyclaret** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:01 pm

".....Bolton's new enforced wage cap is for new signings only and its £4500k a week....."

The equivalent punishment for a League One club is £1,300 per week.

Best of luck with that Blackburn.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:30 pm

FulledgeClaret wrote:Between 8th and 14th they will have enough to stay up comfortably so long as they keep Mowbray but there are some decent sides in that league who know what its all about at that level. Bradford Fleetwood Southend Scunthorpe will all be there or thereabouts again at the top, with Rochdale Oxford and the three who came straight up from L2 Portsmouth Plymouth Doncaster also in the mix, add the big scalp mentality many teams will have against them and Rovers will have their work cut out I can't see them walking it as many of the morons from down the road think.

The three promoted sides all have momentum as well and are used to winning, Portsmouth i fancy strongly to win the division, Fleetwood should be strong hopefully Aiden can help them to a double over Rovers

, Bradford would be my tip to come through the play-offs.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:37 pm

They'll walk it.imo .

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:59 pm

League One Laughing Stocks, or LOLS for short?

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:13 am

tiger76 wrote:The three promoted sides all have momentum as well and are used to winning, Portsmouth i fancy strongly to win the division, Fleetwood should be strong hopefully Aiden can help them to a double over Rovers , Bradford would be my tip to come through the play-offs.

You could be right about Bradford will it be third time lucky for them to go up via play offs at least there will be no Millwall who have beaten them in the playoffs the last two seasons. I think they might just scrape top 2 this time and go straight up with Scunthorpe. Rochdale Fleetwood Oxford and Portsmouth for the play offs.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 10:16 am

Who??

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:07 pm

Were gonna p*ss LEAGUE ONE, starting with a 0-5 at Southend. Deal with it..

burnmark · Post by **burnmark** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:11 pm

That old chestnut......

Jeremy_Bentham · Post by **Jeremy_Bentham** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:16 pm

. always worries about the mocking of Blackburn on here. He thinks there's a reasonable chance Blackburn and Burnley could meet in the league next season.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:29 pm

Blackburn will come about 10th. As for Bradford, they won't go up. They have no money.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:35 pm

Quicknick wrote:Blackburn will come about 10th. As for Bradford, they won't go up. They have no money.

We didn't have much money ever. They might buck the trend like us.plus learn their lesson from previous years when in the top flight.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:41 pm

I'm more interested to see how the 'boycott' goes should they be up there at the end of the season.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:49 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:I'm more interested to see how the 'boycott' goes should they be up there at the end of the season.

If we start winning and playing good football I'll go back..

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:10 pm

So it was never about Venkys then.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:12 pm

FulledgeClaret wrote:So it was never about Venkys then.

Not totally. It was about venkys making poor choices. They make good choices and I've no problem with them. They are billionaires and want their money back. Sooner or later they'll realise the only way they can achieve that is to back the manager, spend a little and get us back into the premier league.

Mayoclaret · Post by **Mayoclaret** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:14 pm

Saxoman wrote:If we start winning and playing good football I'll go back..

Nothing like being loyal to your club is there? Through thick and thin and all that..................... ?

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:17 pm

Mayoclaret wrote:Nothing like being loyal to your club is there? Through thick and thin and all that..................... ?

I value money and want value for it.

Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:37 pm

Saxoman wrote:If we start winning and playing good football I'll go back..

Oh the irony. we have been pilloried by you lot down the years for gates of 3000 and less in Division 4, and now you spout that you're not going back until they start winning?? What's the difference? Bad management from the board room downwards cost us greatly all those years ago. No difference.

Still, Liverpool have spent some £££££. That should give you something to change out of your Alan Shearer Y-fronts for.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:42 pm

Zom Zom wrote:Oh the irony. we have been pilloried by you lot down the years for gates of 3000 and less in Division 4, and now you spout that you're not going back until they start winning?? What's the difference? Bad management from the board room downwards cost us greatly all those years ago. No difference.

Still, Liverpool have spent some £££££. That should give you something to change out of your Alan Shearer Y-fronts for.

You talk like I'm the voice of Rovers support..

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:48 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Bolton's new enforced wage cap is for new signings only and its £4500k a week

To tackle their debt, or have a chance of it, Rovers should be offering similar money or less to new signings.

They could get Neymar for those sort of wages.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:55 pm

Saxoman wrote:Not totally. It was about venkys making poor choices. They make good choices and I've no problem with them. They are billionaires and want their money back. Sooner or later they'll realise the only way they can achieve that is to back the manager, spend a little and get us back into the premier league.

League 1 clubs have strict financial rules to follow and you can't break them because you'll still be under league control in the championship, like Bolton

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:57 pm

Sidney1st wrote:League 1 clubs have strict financial rules to follow and you can't break them because you'll still be under league control in the championship, like Bolton

Not affected us so far.. Epic fail my man..

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:00 pm

Saxoman wrote:Not affected us so far.. Epic fail my man..

Epic fail?

I'm sure the support staff, the normal people, who've been asked to take voluntary redundancy are not in agreement with you about not being affected and an epic fail.

You get a years grace I suspect where your wage bill can't exceed 75% of clubs income.
If you fail to get promoted and your finances are a mess then the league can enforce a wage cap on new players of less than £2k a week each...
Its even lower in league 2.

That's the reality of the situation, be smug all you like about not being affected, but e club is and its the people that don't deserve it that are being harmed the most.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:02 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Epic fail?

I'm sure the support staff, the normal people, who've been asked to take voluntary redundancy are not in agreement with you about not being affected and an epic fail.

You get a years grace I suspect where your wage bill can't exceed 75% of clubs income.
If you fail to get promoted and your finances are a mess then the league can enforce a wage cap on new players of less than £2k a week each...
Its even lower in league 2.

That's the reality of the situation, be smug all you like about not being affected, but e club is and its the people that don't deserve it that are being harmed the most.

We'll p*ss league one Sidney. No one to touch us at this level..

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:16 pm

What a sh*t fan. In fact you aren't a proper fan.