ARTICLE: Kevin Long extends Turf Moor stay

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:06 pm

New contract for Kevin Long

See link
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Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:06 pm

He's going to be here forever.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:08 pm

He must be due a testimonial in a couple of seasons.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:09 pm

Just thought that, he will be due a testimonial by the time it gets to the end of his new deal

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:10 pm

He'll play 12 games within those 3 years if we extrapolate his appearance record so far

claretdom · Post by **claretdom** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:11 pm

Tears and complaints should start any minute now ......

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:13 pm

I just wonder if after he's played a few games this season, and it's looking like there's a good chance he might, if people will be quite as positive as some are about him currently.
Always had him down as a League One / Lower end Championship player but, hey, good luck to the bloke. We might need it,

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:16 pm

claretdom wrote:Tears and complaints should start any minute now ......

There's no point, he's clearly blackmailing someone to keep getting these deals..

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:18 pm

I wonder what the record is for the fewest appearances of a player that has earned a testimonial.

I'm not sure how happy I am that he's been given a new contract. I've not seen enough of him to decide either way, if he's good enough to be relied on should an extended stint in the team be required.

It's probably bloody difficult to find a player prepared to play fourth fiddle and for so long too. Good luck to the lad.

ten bellies · Post by **ten bellies** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:19 pm

I think his progression is worthy of a new contract. An underrated player by some on here.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Just thought that, he will be due a testimonial by the time it gets to the end of his new deal

Such a long time ago when he signed:
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... -land-long" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:22 pm

Since he is now our longest serving player, I think we should rename the James Hargreaves stand in his honour, let's call it the Longsi....Oh hang on a minute.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:23 pm

This is what happens when the Irish take over the squad.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:23 pm

DCWat wrote: It's probably bloody difficult to find a player prepared to play fourth fiddle and for so long too. Good luck to the lad.

He's still playing fourth fiddle now that Charlie Taylor is a centre back.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:33 pm

I think this and the Taylor comments from SD has answered the question if we'll replace Keane with a new signing

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:42 pm

I still don't think that's the case. Time will tell.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:43 pm

Firthy wrote:I think this and the Taylor comments from SD has answered the question if we'll replace Keane with a new signing

We can put all that money towards an exceptional striker then

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:47 pm

DCWat wrote:I still don't think that's the case. Time will tell.

It's virtually guaranteed it won't be the case and it's just plain daft to come to that conclusion.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:51 pm

No Ney Never wrote:Since he is now our longest serving player, I think we should rename the James Hargreaves stand in his honour, let's call it the Longsi....Oh hang on a minute.

That was really funny.

Seriously, though, I think we've got to go back to the 60s to find a player with so many years service to Burnley that has played so few games. In the days of the Central League, this sort of thing was more common as players carved out successful reserve team careers.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:57 pm

Congratulations Kevin. Personally feel he is underrated by a lot of people. Was highly thought of when he was at Barnsley and has done enough to get contracts of all the managers who have had him. Looks strong and physically dominating when I have seen him play even if he isn't the most cultured CB ever (but then neither is Ben Mee and Neither were Steve Caldwell, Michael Duff or John Pender to name but 3 who did very good jobs for us).

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:09 pm

From one Irish man to another
He's not good enough.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:16 pm

DCWat wrote:I wonder what the record is for the fewest appearances of a player that has earned a testimonial.

I'm not sure how happy I am that he's been given a new contract. I've not seen enough of him to decide either way, if he's good enough to be relied on should an extended stint in the team be required.

It's probably bloody difficult to find a player prepared to play fourth fiddle and for so long too. Good luck to the lad.

For millions of pounds over a career? Not a bad earner if you ask me. 10 grand a week to keep fit? Piece of pi.ss.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:19 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:For millions of pounds over a career? Not a bad earner if you ask me. 10 grand a week to keep fit? Piece of pi.ss.

No denying it's a good earner, but I'd think that for the vast majority, playing first team football is the aim and anything less would lead to itchy feet.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:19 pm

I certainly don't think he's as bad as people on here make out, and it shows that SD has a lot of faith in him.

Certainly doesn't guarantee that if we do sign another CB, he will be fighting with three other CBs

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:19 pm

Most of the players we rarely see play receive nothing but unearned accolades, why is it so different where Kevin Long is concerned?

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:20 pm

He's 27
If he was good enough he would have been a regular before now
Watched him at club and international level
No where near the standard required in the premier league.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:22 pm

But the manager of the club (who has made very few bad calls) doesn't agree.

He sees him all the time, and i guess he's seeing what he wants from him, hence the new contract.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:22 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:For millions of pounds over a career? Not a bad earner if you ask me. 10 grand a week to keep fit? Piece of pi.ss.

The 10k/week is the reason SD must see summat in him. That money could be the difference between a bench player and a starter. Good luck, Kev.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:27 pm

O'Neil rates him.......

Still got a lot to prove for me....especially at this level.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:29 pm

Not sure where this idea that a player who has made 25 appearences for us in nearly ten years is underrated.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:38 pm

Like said above, the manager clearly thinks he can do a job for us.

He's not often wrong as well.

1963Claret · Post by **1963Claret** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:12 pm

Highly rated by Accrington and Barnsley fans but I'm yet to be convinced he can cut it at a higher level.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:52 pm

Fine as fourth choice. Not good enough to play regular Prem games.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:57 pm

I think the fact that he has been given a 3 year deal demonstrates that the gaffer and the club have seen enough to convince them that Kevin can play an ongoing part in the clubs progression. It's hard to say what standard he is currently at, because nobody outside of the club has seen enough of him to make a qualified judgement. It would be nice if more people had more confidence in the ability of the back room staff to make informed player assessments, instead of automatically whipping out the pessamism brush and blindly painting away at the first available opportunity.

His playing time hasn't been helped by the clubs progression. Two years ago he needed to be a quality championship player to book a place in the first team. So he develops and he improves in order to reach that standard and all of a sudden we are in the premiership. Now he has to meet the requirements of being a premiership standard player to secure a regular first team slot. It's like the bar keeps moving upwards, he improves and the standard of player we need increases.

His loan spells haven't helped a lot in terms of giving him consistent playing time to demonstrate his talent. The emergency MK Dons loan didn't give him a great opportunity to establish himself and his previous loan to Barnsley was only a short term loan. A full season loan, with the strict guarantee of plenty of playing time, at a Championship club like Barnsley would have been ideal.

As it stands I'm happy to hear that he has signed up with us for another 3 years. If the club has made the decision to offer him a lengthy contract it's definitely because he has earned it and proved himself worthy of it in their eyes. You don't go around handing out 3 year contracts to players just because they contribute to the craic and make a good brew.

Well done Kev! really good to have you onboard and signed up for another 3 years, onwards and upwards

IAmAClaret · Post by **IAmAClaret** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:59 pm

Dyche clearly sees something in him, so much so he put him in his first burnley 11. I think he's a good player, right attitude, good age for a CB, obviously now a full international, great that he's singed another deal!

BertiesBeehole · Post by **BertiesBeehole** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:02 pm

If there's one position I trust SD judgement in it's CB

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:16 pm

I'm pleased for him. It will be tough for him to get games this season but if he does, let's hope it's down to him doing really well rather than a lack of options!

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:27 pm

BertiesBeehole wrote:If there's one position I trust SD judgement in it's CB

I often say the same. He knows his centre backs so I've got no problem with this.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:28 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Not sure where this idea that a player who has made 25 appearances for us in nearly ten years is underrated.

He's had to sit behind some very good defenders in his time with us and when it looked like he was going to possibly get a chance he managed to get himself injured. Obviously all his managers have seen enough in him to offer him contract extensions and keep him at the club. The fact that most on here think he is league 1 at best when he is an international, has played well in the premiership and especially at championship level, says to me that he is definitely underrated.

S27bfc · Post by **S27bfc** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:39 pm

I look at him as a unknown talent,He did not really tick with tarkowski towards the end of last season,but in all fairness he could fit in with Ben me,Let's give the lad e chance.When Ben me moved to CB we did not know how it would turn out look now probably better all round than Keene? Who knows?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:42 pm

S27bfc wrote:I look at him as a unknown talent,He did not really tick with tarkowski towards the end of last season,but in all fairness he could fit in with Ben me,Let's give the lad e chance.When Ben me moved to CB we did not know how it would turn out look now probably better all round than Keene? Who knows?

Been here a long time to be an unknown talent.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:44 pm

S27bfc wrote:When Ben me moved to CB we did not know how it would turn out look now probably better all round than Keene? =

Only if you'd been drinking heavily would the answer to that question be, yes.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:46 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Been here a long time to be an unknown talent.

He's had some serious injuries though, perhaps he's just beginning to fulfil the potential which has made 3 managers offer him a deal.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:50 pm

He hasn't been injured the entire time he's been here and the amount of starts he's made tells it's own story.

BertiesBeehole · Post by **BertiesBeehole** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:24 pm

The fact he's been offered a 3 year deal tells its own story

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:28 pm

Goobs wrote:He's had to sit behind some very good defenders in his time with us and when it looked like he was going to possibly get a chance he managed to get himself injured. Obviously all his managers have seen enough in him to offer him contract extensions and keep him at the club. The fact that most on here think he is league 1 at best when he is an international, has played well in the premiership and especially at championship level, says to me that he is definitely underrated.

Played well in the PL?
Which of his 4 appearances were his best or worst?

21 appearances in the championship for us and 2 for MK Dons..

As for being an international, there are international players in the championship and league 1...

7 yrs of being at the club would say he's not underrated, he's just not good enough to become first choice.
He's never going to become first choice unless there's a number of major injuries quite simply and he's happy with that.

As for someone else's comments about him having to contend with reaching certain levels required to play in the championship and then trying to reach PL standards, other players have had to do the same and managed it fairly well, others who didn't reach the standard's required have been moved on...

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:36 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Played well in the PL?
Which of his 4 appearances were his best or worst?

21 appearances in the championship for us and 2 for MK Dons..

As for being an international, there are international players in the championship and league 1...

7 yrs of being at the club would say he's not underrated, he's just not good enough to become first choice.
He's never going to become first choice unless there's a number of major injuries quite simply and he's happy with that.

As for someone else's comments about him having to contend with reaching certain levels required to play in the championship and then trying to reach PL standards, other players have had to do the same and managed it fairly well, others who didn't reach the standard's required have been moved on...

So why does he keep getting offered a new contract?

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:40 pm

Excellent news

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:41 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:He hasn't been injured the entire time he's been here and the amount of starts he's made tells it's own story.

Sonhis injury at Newcastle on Boxing Day was an illusion?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:00 pm

Was that the injury that kept him out for 7 years?