If Gray goes who would you like in

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If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:50 am

I could name plenty abroad but its never in a million years going to happen. So its almost certain to be a top club reject / youngster or a lower league prospect.

On that basis id go with any of:

Wilfried Bony loan or permanent if City will pay some of his wages
Shane Long permanent
Dominic Solanke on loan
Benik Afobe permanent

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Down_Rover » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:53 am

Would take Bony or Afobe.

Long might do a stop gap job until someone better was available

Would like Ings if he is capable of being as good as he was

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:54 am

Neymar
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:56 am

Ings on loan
Lookman from Everton loan or perm
Rashford circa 10m loan fee

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:56 am

boatshed bill wrote:Neymar
Think hes just moved. So if hes not available id take kevin doyle.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by jedi_master » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:59 am

Shane Long as we absolutely need pace.
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:59 am

Ings on loan.
Shane Long, possibly.
Some unknown 'Michu style' European signing who we sign for a steal and they go on to fire us up the league. We then sell them for £30m next year.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by todclaret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:59 am

Scott Hogan
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by starting_11 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:02 am

What happened to the Crouch rumours?

Ive always quite rated him

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:03 am

Darthlaw wrote:Ings on loan.
Shane Long, possibly.
Some unknown 'Michu style' European signing who we sign for a steal and they go on to fire us up the league. We then sell them for £30m next year.
We could pretty much cherry pick anyone we fancied from Sparta Prague now they are out of the Europa League. Sural could be worth a punt for a start

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:03 am

Shane Long and Danny Ings.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Longsidejono » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:04 am

Kodja
Callum Wilson
Volland

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:05 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Think hes just moved. So if hes not available id take kevin doyle.

Another missed opportunity.
Sack the board!
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:06 am

ZizkovClaret wrote:We could pretty much cherry pick anyone we fancied from Sparta Prague now they are out of the Europa League. Sural could be worth a punt for a start
Beaten by my favourite serb team. Red Star. With goals by Richmond Boakye. Absolute beast who is on fire. He averages a goal a game for them. Ex Juve. Ghana international. Not saying he is good enough for the prem but might have been worth a gamble on a free as backup.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by colne-claret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:07 am

Take Zapata on loan with a view to a permanent deal.

Bring in a young up coming forward. Don't know who though! Maybe a Che Adams or something.
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by ashtonlongsider » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:07 am

I think Shane Long would be a good fit. Alternatively Dwight Gayle at Newcastle as I doubt him seeing much action this season at St James.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by agreenwood » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:11 am

No idea.

He had a 1 in 3 record for us last season and that won't be easy to replace within our wage structure, particularly given our clear preference for buying known quantities from within the UK.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:12 am

Shane Long if he was dirt cheap yes please simply for the pace. Doesn't tend to hit double figures so a goal scorer is needed.

Realistically it's hard to throw some names out : Danny Ings on loan would be great if he was anything close to his old self.

Solanke - will be ahead on Ings at Anfield so no.
Callum Wilson - not a prayer but is a better version of Gray in my eyes.

Unrealistic : Moussa Dembele from Celtic - Stepping Stone move only possibilty, test the water at £20m but can't see that at all.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Top Claret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:30 am

Wages seem to be our major stumbling block. If we are to replace Gray with a like for like we are going to have to bite the bullet and break our wage structure

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:33 am

We need to break our wage structure anyway. Someone on £60k a week is £3.1m a year. Someone on £35k per week (as we pay now) is £1.8m. The difference between the two is peanuts compared to our profits and income.
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by JohnMac » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:33 am

colne-claret wrote:Take Zapata on loan with a view to a permanent deal.

Bring in a young up coming forward. Don't know who though! Maybe a Che Adams or something.
I thought for a minute you were talking about Emiliano Zapata and Che Guevara. Our own Fidel Castro would be able to mediate on behalf of the Clarets!

(Yes I do know they have a passed to the other side) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by jdrobbo » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:40 am

Long is an obvious one for pace.

However, if it's Watford we're talking about, let's start talking 'Troy Deeney' again. He's not 100% happy there and he loves Dyche.
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Selby Claret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:41 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Shane Long and Danny Ings.
Deal

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by SGr » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:48 am

jedi_master wrote:Shane Long as we absolutely need pace.
scoring record not good enough

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by SGr » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:49 am

Lucas Perez....because I'm deluded and hopeful :lol:
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by cockneyclaret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:57 am

Wisdom fella from Watford and long

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by philh2004 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:03 am

Just waiting for ABC to come along start a thread saying Agyei should be first choice striker when Gray goes.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by billyhamilton82 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:07 am

We paid £9m for him.

Supposedly Brentford have 20% on any profit therefore they would redeem £1.8m from the deal if it is £18m.

So we return a £7m profit and £16m back to the coffers.

We MUST spend it wisely.

Danny Ings and Shane Long for me too.

We need pace, nouse and some of the X factor that Danny Ings has in abundance.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:08 am

We don't need the knee surgeries that Danny Ings has in abundance though

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by cockneyclaret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:08 am

Is Danny ings fully fit now?? I thought he was some way off
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by CnBtruntru » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:13 am

boatshed bill wrote:Neymar
It would be cheaper to buy out the board and takeover the club than to buy him :D

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by billyhamilton82 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:16 am

"Is Danny ings fully fit now?? I thought he was some way off"

Ings in the Liverpool squad for the Audi Cup

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/fo ... s-13386718" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by duncandisorderly » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:18 am

Vokes - a proper 4-5-1 with two wingers who can cross the ball and let Defour or Hendrick push up from midfield. Vokes scored 10 last season, get some proper crosses in half a dozen times a game and he'll double that.
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:23 am

billyhamilton82 wrote:"Is Danny ings fully fit now?? I thought he was some way off"

Ings in the Liverpool squad for the Audi Cup

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/fo ... s-13386718" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ings wasn't in the matchday squads. These games happened a week ago.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by claretrobo1 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:25 am

Jorgensen from Feyenoord. 6"3 and won Eredivise with Feyenoord. Ambitious but most probably affordable

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:31 am

I love Vokes. Probably one of my favourite Burnley players ever. But he wont score 20 goals just with a change of style.
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Jimscho » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:31 am

billyhamilton82 wrote:We paid £9m for him.

Supposedly Brentford have 20% on any profit therefore they would redeem £1.8m from the deal if it is £18m.

So we return a £7m profit and £16m back to the coffers.

We MUST spend it wisely.

Danny Ings and Shane Long for me too.

We need pace, nouse and some of the X factor that Danny Ings has in abundance.
20% of any profit is£900k.18m-9m =9m profit.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by lucs86 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:36 am

We should treat ourselves to 2 forwards, 1 permanent decent money, 1 younger up-and-coming player, lower league or loanee, both with pace and/or trickery. We've no like-for-like cover for Gray in the squad which was always a weakness, especially when he was knackered after 70 mins. So it's an important replacement to get right and it won't be easy, especially with the time it takes for players to get bedded in and used to our style of play. So lets anticipate some teething problems with the 'marquee' replacement and mitigate that risk by bringing in 2 for 1.

People will be flapping but no-one really liked Gray anyway and we'll find a better replacement who with a bit of technical ability will probably bring more to the team. Bring in 2 for 1 and it will be happy days.
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Dom » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:37 am

Jimscho wrote:20% of any profit is£900k.18m-9m =9m profit.
20% of £9m is £1.8m.

As for the player we bring in, knowing that Dyche prefers British and Irish players there is a limited pool of availability.
I can't think of a realistic target that is better than Gray that fits that profile.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by COBBLE » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:41 am

Ings on loan, plus one of Shane Long or Troy Deeney. Happy days.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Blackrod » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:42 am

It's always reassuring to know that slip ups in grammar, spelling and mathematics won't go unnoticed on this board.

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:42 am

Deeny would be interesting, but wages would be a stumbling block I think.

With the money we have now, you'd think we could afford to look abroad.

I just can't think of anyone in the championship at the moment.

Ings on loan and a young and up and coming striker signed as another option wouldn't be the worst, but we really do need to replace him quickly

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:43 am

Jimscho wrote:20% of any profit is£900k.18m-9m =9m profit.
So that would be 1.8m

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Braindead » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:43 am

Benik Afobe and Shane Long

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Dom » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:45 am

Blackrod wrote:It's always reassuring to know that slip ups in grammar, spelling and mathematics won't go unnoticed on this board.
In fairness, if you try and correct someone's maths and make an arse of it, you should be pulled up.
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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Reecey1987 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:48 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Deeny would be interesting, but wages would be a stumbling block I think.

With the money we have now, you'd think we could afford to look abroad.

I just can't think of anyone in the championship at the moment.

Ings on loan and a young and up and coming striker signed as another option wouldn't be the worst, but we really do need to replace him quickly
Deeneys out injured just had a operation

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:51 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Deeny would be interesting, but wages would be a stumbling block I think.

With the money we have now, you'd think we could afford to look abroad.

I just can't think of anyone in the championship at the moment.

Ings on loan and a young and up and coming striker signed as another option wouldn't be the worst, but we really do need to replace him quickly
Agree with the lack of options with strikers in thr championship. Bringing someone from abroad with our track record doesn't fill me with much confidence though!

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by KateR » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:01 pm

plenty of options and we do not need to limit ourselves to what we get for Gray, we can add to it, 30 million is no stretch however as many point out it will be wages which are the limiting factor. However the club do use a bonus structure so it is possible to work on a basic wage with bonuses throughout the season, bigger question is are players willing to take a gamble on joining and getting money based on performances and milestones applied. I would like to think so but some/most will not, they will want the safety of receiving a basic wage regardless of performance of the team as a whole.

Next few weeks will be interesting watching some on here meltdown :)
looking forward to "the club have no ambition" thread, that's always fun :)

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:01 pm

Benik Afobe is not the required standard

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Re: If Gray goes who would you like in

Post by tim_noone » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:05 pm

Wilfrid bony....always in the headlines prior to city,scoring goals.its like hes been put out to graize for 3years? SD would get him up to speed and maybe give him some self belief if thats lacking.

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