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BurnleyPaul
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by BurnleyPaul » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:55 pm
IanMcL wrote:Baggies now queering the pitch.
We have one of Sam's mates though in Charlie Taylor....might be helpful!
Also it seems as though West Brom only want him if they can't get their first choice (Barry).
Why live to a club where you know you're the second choice purchase and you'll have to move home etc too?
Why not move instead to a club near where you currently live and where you already have at least one good friend?
Simple choice isn't it?
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BleedingClaret
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by BleedingClaret » Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:58 pm
IanMcL wrote:Perhaps we are just going to play everyone in midfield!
Joey Barton will be back in training soon!
And Dean Marney
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Dark Cloud
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by Dark Cloud » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:00 pm
And don't forget it's Tark's true vocation too!
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cricketfieldclarets
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by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:14 pm
Vegas Claret wrote:I mentioned Roberts on here a few weeks ago, not gonna happen though is it
Unlikely. Wouldnt mind him. Add Chadli to that list now he is available!
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by piston broke » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:25 pm
Ambivalent about Clucas but when he's fit again I'd love us to get Whatmore from Sunderland.
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MACCA
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by MACCA » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:37 pm
Me too.
I'm a big fan of him
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Saxoman
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by Saxoman » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:38 pm
I always liked Lee cattermole. Where's he now?
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MACCA
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by MACCA » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:41 pm
Sunlan
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Blyclaret
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by Blyclaret » Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:59 pm
Think hull are waiting to get his replacement in from Oxford
Who are playing hard ball at the moment
So this might drag on a while
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by Papabendi » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:52 pm
I'm pleased we played the same game with Gray.
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Archer
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by Archer » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:55 pm
Saxoman wrote:I always liked Lee cattermole. Where's he now?
League above you, still.
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by claretblue » Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:53 am
'supermarket was closed'
from Burnley Express:
'...Burnley had a £5m bid for Hull City midfielder Sam Clucas turned down last week, with Tigers boss Leonid Slutsky saying on Friday that the “supermarket was closed” at the KCOM Stadium. He said: “Maybe he (Clucas) is better waiting one year and he will play in the Premier League with Hull I hope, or he will play in a really big team in England. It’s a serious risk to change for the same type of club.” It emerged on Friday that Burnley had also had an offer for Leeds United striker Chris Woood turned down, at slightly less than the £12m reported. Burnley are expected to return with an improved offer, but Leeds boss Christiansen said he expects Wood to stay at Elland Road: “I haven’t talked to the club, but I imagine they are as ambitious. He is very important.”...'
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Guich
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by Guich » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:12 am
[quote="claretblue"]'supermarket was closed'
'...Burnley had a £5m bid for Hull City midfielder Sam Clucas turned down last week, with Tigers boss Leonid Slutsky saying on Friday that the “supermarket was closed” at the KCOM Stadium. He said: “Maybe he (Clucas) is better waiting one year and he will play in the Premier League with Hull I hope, or he will play in a really big team in England. It’s a serious risk to change for the same type of club.”
Just to help out Leonid. There's one crucial difference. Burnley is a Premier League football team with a rich heritage and Hull is a rugby city.
I suspect no-one told you.
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Selby Claret
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by Selby Claret » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:42 am
BurnleyPaul wrote:Also it seems as though West Brom only want him if they can't get their first choice (Barry).
Why live to a club where you know you're the second choice purchase and you'll have to move home etc too?
Why not move instead to a club near where you currently live and where you already have at least one good friend?
Simple choice isn't it?
BREAKING NEWS
Everton midfielder Gareth Barry is at West Brom’s training ground undergoing a medical, Sky sources understand.
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CFS
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by CFS » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:25 am
A potential stumbling block out of the way in terms of wba getting their man now let's move in.
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Giftonsnoidea
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by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:35 am
Do we really need another left footer, where would he play?
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colne-claret
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by colne-claret » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:39 am
Giftonsnoidea wrote:Do we really need another left footer, where would he play?
He plays central mainly for Hull. We have no left footed central midfielders. We do need a right footed winger though.
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Giftonsnoidea
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by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:43 am
I'll be miffed if Defour goes and we replace with Clucas. Westwood looks more and more a panic buy now.
I agree we're crying out for a right winger!
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by colne-claret » Tue Aug 15, 2017 11:45 am
I can't see Defour going. I think if Clucas came in we may see the end of Arfields time here. If we play a midfield 3 this season we certainly need a couple of back up. Cork, Defour, Westwood, Hendrick, Clucas & Marney would be a solid midfield. Ulvestad can go for me.
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Grumps
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by Grumps » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:13 pm
10 Mil rejected
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by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:36 pm
Giftonsnoidea wrote:Westwood looks more and more a panic buy now.
Not based on what I've seen of him. Thought he was excellent when he came back in last season.
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IanMcL
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by IanMcL » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:40 pm
Manager has chequebook between his teeth, it seems!
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by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:43 pm
Brady, Hendrick,Cork, Defour, Clucas..............What a midfield 5 that would be
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by IndigoLake » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:52 pm
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by aggi » Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:57 pm
Giftonsnoidea wrote:I'll be miffed if Defour goes and we replace with Clucas. Westwood looks more and more a panic buy now.
I agree we're crying out for a right winger!
I think Westwood would have been a better replacement for Defour on Saturday. We had to change the whole shape when Walters came on with Hendrick dropping much deeper whereas Westwood would have been a more natural fit for the shield in front of the back 4 and may have kept us a bit more composed.
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BurnleyPaul
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by BurnleyPaul » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:10 pm
£10 million rejected.
Looks like Sam needs to make it clear he wants to leave if he wants to join us....
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by FCBurnley » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:10 pm
LET reporting 10 million bid turned down !!
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by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:14 pm
ClaretTony wrote:Not based on what I've seen of him. Thought he was excellent when he came back in last season.
Thought he was good at Palace away but wasn't exactly pulling up trees though the other times I saw him, watched pretty much every game last season.
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by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:17 pm
AGENT_CLARET wrote:Brady, Hendrick,Cork, Defour, Clucas..............What a midfield 5 that would be
Wouldn't want Clucas, a left footer on right wing of a 5 personally, would be like Brady playing on right, wouldn't be able to go round outside to take on the fullback, is he good with both feet?
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IanMcL
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by IanMcL » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:38 pm
£10m rejected everywhere now.
Moneybags Burnley!
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by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:43 pm
£10m is a very good offer, don't think he's worth more than that really
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by martin_p » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:52 pm
It's long been a suspicion of mine, but Hull's comments confirm it really, a lot of the reason some teams won't sell to us is jealousy.
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by Lancasterclaret » Tue Aug 15, 2017 2:52 pm
Its the market though isn't it?
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by ayrshireclaret83 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:17 pm
Gonna be a lansbury/Bryson all over again he will extend his contract
Just my opinion
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by Lancasterclaret » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:25 pm
We are in the prem though, and survived last season.
Its a big pull for players
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by joey13 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:32 pm
ayrshireclaret83 wrote:Gonna be a lansbury/Bryson all over again he will extend his contract
Just my opinion
Don't forget Stephens
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by northernpowerhouse » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:35 pm
ayrshireclaret83 wrote:Gonna be a lansbury/Bryson all over again he will extend his contract
Just my opinion
It's a bit different because Clucas has already played in the Premier League and was rumoured to be on Southgate's radar. He probably won't want another season in the Championship.
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by Slurpy » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:37 pm
Could do with a bit of help from him on the other end
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by Long Time Lurker » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:01 pm
It's a bit of a strange one this. Clucas could do well for us in CM, but I don't think the area is a top priority. Obviously the club and Sean think differently, which means I'm wrong in that respect.
What is really puzzling is the fact that we are only making a move for him now. After Hull have sold seven of their key players during this window. If we had marked him out as an important target for this transfer window at the outset why didn't we go in for him much earlier, around the time we picked up Cork.
Did we actually sit down and decide that it would be a really good idea to go after him late in the window, because it would result in a lower price and an increased chance of Hull letting him go?
I suspect we might have had a far greater chance of picking him up, and for a much lower price, if we had made a move before the Hull supermarket had emptied its shelves of everything but Clucas.
On the other hand, if he wasn't a key target that we identified before the window what has changed to make us so interested now?
Either we are getting really good at the media game and we are throwing out a finely crafted series of smoke and mirror shapes as part of some grand strategy or we are making up our entire transfer agenda as we bungle our way along.
If we have become the super ninjas of the transfer market then it is definitely working, because at this moment in time I'm not sure if I should be awestruck or very worried.
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by ExistentialWanderer » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:09 pm
Can someone superimpose a pic of Sean Dyche's face onto a Ninja's body. I quite like the idea of our boss doing somersaults and stealthily nabbing his targets from under the noses of unsuspecting football clubs.
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Long Time Lurker
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by Long Time Lurker » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:14 pm
ExistentialWanderer wrote:Can someone superimpose a pic of Sean Dyche's face onto a Ninja's body. I quite like the idea of our boss doing somersaults and stealthily nabbing his targets from under the noses of unsuspecting football clubs.
I've tried to catch him on camera, but the Ginja Ninja has so far elluded me.
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mybloodisclaret
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by mybloodisclaret » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:31 pm
It appears there are 2 sources that suggest he wants to come, Twitter (sometimes reliable/ish) and a guy from Lincoln at a wedding in shrews who says he wants to come. If the club refuse time for a transfer request? He's not worth much more than 10 mill I don't think.
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by jrgbfc » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:44 pm
Offer them Arfield as part of the deal. If it goes through go out and sign another wide player with a bit of pace.
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by thelifeofbrian » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:45 pm
Grumps wrote:10 Mil rejected
Really- that's a fair offer from BFC...........
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by tiger76 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:01 pm
Long Time Lurker wrote:It's a bit of a strange one this. Clucas could do well for us in CM, but I don't think the area is a top priority. Obviously the club and Sean think differently, which means I'm wrong in that respect.
What is really puzzling is the fact that we are only making a move for him now. After Hull have sold seven of their key players during this window. If we had marked him out as an important target for this transfer window at the outset why didn't we go in for him much earlier, around the time we picked up Cork.
Did we actually sit down and decide that it would be a really good idea to go after him late in the window, because it would result in a lower price and an increased chance of Hull letting him go?
I suspect we might have had a far greater chance of picking him up, and for a much lower price, if we had made a move before the Hull supermarket had emptied its shelves of everything but Clucas.
On the other hand, if he wasn't a key target that we identified before the window what has changed to make us so interested now?
Either we are getting really good at the media game and we are throwing out a finely crafted series of smoke and mirror shapes as part of some grand strategy or we are making up our entire transfer agenda as we bungle our way along.
If we have become the super ninjas of the transfer market then it is definitely working, because at this moment in time I'm not sure if I should be awestruck or very worried.
If you are Sam Clucas, and you witness the firesale at Hull, there must be doubts as to how much of a challenge to bounce back Hull can now make,if he feels Hull are unlikely to come back up this may influence his thinking,i wouldn't go any higher then 10 million decent player though he is.
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IanMcL
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by IanMcL » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:29 pm
He will come and for just a shuffling of the figures.
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by IanMcL » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:35 pm
South West Claret. wrote:Is he quick?
Taking him a long time to get here!
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by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:42 pm
does he like Twix ?