Bid rejected for chris wood

[Roosterbooster]

I love Vokes but Wood is the better player

I honestly don't know what you have seen to suggest this. Similar, yes, but better...? How? Vokes has proven he can score goals in the PL against top 6 sides and at international level. Good in the air. Good movement. Scores different type of goals. Works his socks off. Provides height for defending set pieces. As selfless as any player at the club. A true team player. Can play on his own or in a 2. A genuinely nice guy. And the most intelligent striker we have by a mile. For 20m I cannot fathom why we wouldn't buy someone who gives us a different option, rather than a championship version of what we already have...

[HiroshimaClaret]

How about Pierre Michel Lasogga? Sounds a good `un and the mighty Leeds are interested, apparently.

[Long Time Lurker]

I love Vokes but Wood is the better player. Just as good a goalscorer but with more physicality.

We all love Vokes, but that doesn't mean we aren't guilty of not appreciating him enough.Vokes is class, all the way and every day.

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Given the choice between losing Gray and Vokes I'm happy that Gray was the one to depart. And the figures back me up. I keep seeing mention of Grays 9 goals in 32 appearances (6 as a sub) and how we need to replace those goals. However 2 of those goals where from penalties and 1 of them was from a free kick. That leaves 6 goals from open play in 32 appearances. In the Swansea match he scored two goals and he bagged 3 in the Sunderland match. Or to put it another way he only scored goals from open play in 3 out of 30 matches. Thats two outstanding games and a lot of fairly average games.

He also missed 6 good chances, made 47 shots on goal (of which 19 were on target), made a total of 371 passes, contributed 3 assists played in 26 crosses and notched up a grand total of 35 offsides. He contributed very little defensively. His main contribution, arguably, was his ability to use his pace to stretch out the defence of our opponents and create space for our players to move into.

And now we have Vokes. 10 goals in 37 appearances (16 as a sub). With 2 goals from penalties and 0 from free kicks that leaves 8 from open play. Big Sam never got on the score sheet more than once in a game during our 201617 season, so he scored in 8 games. That is 8 goals in 37 matches. Granted Sam didn't have the wonder days that Gray had at Swansea and Sunderland but over the season his scoring was more consistent. Had Gray not played at Swansea or Sunderland he would be a 1 goal in open play from 32 matches striker.

In respect to the other areas of Sams overall game he made a total of 602 passes, he also chipped in with 3 assists, played in 7 crosses and notched up 23 offsides. The most interesting thing about his overall contribution comes from his defensive contribution. He made 31 clearances in comparison with Grays 1 clearance. This shows that not only does Sam do a great job up front he also plays a massive part in our ability to defend set pieces. A part of his games that was in evidence against Chelsea for those that were watching closely.

Looking at the stats Sam is every bit the Premier League goal scorer that Gray was. The only major difference is that he is more consistent whereas Gray was more than a little sporadic. He is also a vital part of our defensive strength.

In hindsight losing Gray doesn't appear to be as big a deal as some people have made it out to be, because he is a lot easier to replace than Vokes. We just need a striker with a bit of pace that can open up space by stretching opposing defenders (replacing Gray in that respect) and chip in with some goals. If we can get someone that can also create more chances and link our midfield to the forward(s) more effectively we could have a player better than Gray - in terms of the teams overall functionality/synergy.

Will Chris Wood gives us that?

I'm not sure that he will and with the big numbers being thrown around I would like to feel more confident about him.

He is certainly a good player, albeit unproven in the Premiership, but I'm still not convinced he is the type of player we need.

[Tall Paul]

Your stats aren't quite right and seem to treat Gray a little unfairly, Lurker.

Vokes scored twice against WBA and one of Gray's penalties was scored at Swansea. I can't remember Gray scoring a free kick either, which goal was that?

[IndigoLake]

Who told you?

Probably the same person that told him that Craig Dawson was signing for us in the first week of July. I'll believe it when I see it!

[IanMcL]

Alleged £20m bid rejected.

However, one report says that Leeds are enquiring about MacCormack at Aston Villa, as a Smith replacement and Southampton paper has rekindled the Shane Long story as a replacement for Gray, if Smith fails to happen.

http://readsouthampton.com/2017/08/15/b ... hane-long/



Just picked up another Shane Long story but cites us missing out on a player who went to Man City for £3.5m. (Must be a 12 year old)

Burnley, who are said to have missed out on the signing of Olarenwaju Kayode to Manchester City, are the current bookies favourites to sign the Southampton player.

[northernpowerhouse]

I honestly don't know what you have seen to suggest this. Similar, yes, but better...? How?

Scored more goals than Vokes did in a worse team and offers more of a physical presence. I rate him as slightly better than Vokes in every respect.

[northernpowerhouse]

In hindsight losing Gray doesn't appear to be as big a deal as some people have made it out to be, because he is a lot easier to replace than Vokes. We just need a striker with a bit of pace that can open up space by stretching opposing defenders (replacing Gray in that respect) and chip in with some goals.

Gray's stats were poor because we weren't playing to his strengths. Our midfield was far too defensive and wasn't providing balls for him to run on to. He basically said as much in his recent interview. There's no point signing another pacy run-off-the-shoulder striker because that's not the way we play. I think we need a deeper-lying creative forward. Tom Lawrence or a fit again Danny Ings would be perfect.

[Roosterbooster]

Scored more goals than Vokes did in a worse team and offers more of a physical presence. I rate him as slightly better than Vokes in every respect.

Well that's hardly conclusive! Chris Wood scored twice as many league goals as Neymar last season! And I'd say Leeds are far worse than Barcelona!!

Without being facetious, when they last both played in the same division, Vokes scored more goals. And he has many more strings to his bow.

[Lancasterclaret]

Tom Lawrence is on the verge of signing for Derby.

Though I agree he is the sort of player we should be looking at

[Quicknick]

Alleged £20m bid rejected.

However, one report says that Leeds are enquiring about MacCormack at Aston Villa, as a Smith replacement and Southampton paper has rekindled the Shane Long story as a replacement for Gray, if Smith fails to happen.

http://readsouthampton.com/2017/08/15/b ... hane-long/



Just picked up another Shane Long story but cites us missing out on a player who went to Man City for £3.5m. (Must be a 12 year old)

Burnley, who are said to have missed out on the signing of Olarenwaju Kayode to Manchester City, are the current bookies favourites to sign the Southampton player.

Smith?

[Long Time Lurker]

Gray's stats were poor because we weren't playing to his strengths. Our midfield was far too defensive and wasn't providing balls for him to run on to. He basically said as much in his recent interview. There's no point signing another pacy run-off-the-shoulder striker because that's not the way we play. I think we need a deeper-lying creative forward. Tom Lawrence or a fit again Danny Ings would be perfect.

Yup, I certainly didn't mean to come across as being disparaging. Even though he has left us for Watford I appreciate the contribution he made while he was here. It's also a fair point that we didn't play to his strengths and playing in a team that does will certainly provide him with the opportunity to increase his scoring rate (hopefully not against us). And like any player his value to the team isn't wholly linked to goals scored.

I completely agree with you about the type of player we need. Tom lawrence would be good or would have been good if the rumours linking him with Derby are true. Ticks the boxes and he has a bit of pace.

Can't recall Andres free kick goal for the life of me, but I didn't manage to watch every game last season.

[northernpowerhouse]

Without being facetious, when they last both played in the same division, Vokes scored more goals.

Vokes - 15 in 43
Wood - 13 in 36

So Wood had a better ratio and he wasn't playing for the title winners. Obviously we could go back and forth comparing them all day but I think Wood is the better player, and if Dyche is willing to spend £15 million plus on him he must think the same thing. I seriously rate the guy.

[Jel]

Headline in the Mail online
Burnley ready to make improved £20m bid for Leeds United striker Chris Wood after initial bid was rejected

[KefkaClaret]

For £20m I'd really like to see someone different. He's so similar to Vokes and I think would limit us in shape. If we signed him we we will have a strike force of Vokes, Barnes, Wood and Walters. If we had to revert back to 4-4-2 I can't see any of them partnering up well. I think Vokes and Barnes works ok but limits us to long balls. For £20m I really think we should go for a striker who can play as a lone striker and also drift wide.

[MACCA]

Again?
So is that 40m in total?

[lrac]

Been turned down .

[SGr]

Let that be the end of it please. Vokes can do it at this level, and by my reckoning could've been equally profilic in the Leeds team that was built around Wood last year.

Striker with pace is what we should be looking at, give us something different.

[cricketfieldclarets]

Hope we can get him and another.

[Squiff]

20 mil for lump of wood is ludicrous, I hope it doesn't happen!

[cutsy123]

good player, but not worth £20 mill

We need speed up front, not another big weight

[Foshiznik]

Move on. £20m is about £10m too much.

[Blackrod]

Not worth it even in today's daft market. Please move on.

[Giftonsnoidea]

Apparently were in for Florin Andone from La Coruna in Spain according to SSN, 13m Euro bid

[Vegas Claret]

our scouting network is immense

[Darthlaw]

So £18.5 million for a proven Championship goalscorer with goals in the PL or £20m being knocked back for a guy who is only proven in the championship.

I don't get it.

[South West Claret.]

The Mail?

I's all right everyone don't take your thinking any further on this one

[Pearcey]

So £18.5 million for a proven Championship goalscorer with goals in the PL or £20m being knocked back for a guy who is only proven in the championship.

I don't get it.

Gray was in the last year of his contract. Makes a big difference.

[longsidelewis]

The bid has been rejected. Will be interesting to see if we match Leeds' £25m valuation for him. UTC

[tiger76]

Gray was in the last year of his contract. Makes a big difference.

Exactly ideally we would get our bigger names on longer contracts, the danger is if we drop back down and have big earners to fund,the club offered Gray a contract he rejected it so we move on.

[jrgbfc]

Hope to God we don't pay over 20 million for Chris Wood.

[SkiptonClaret]

YEP reporter, Phil Hay, saying a second bid was rejected and we're looking at other options now.

[Woodleyclaret]

Long may it continue £20m !
That is a massive pxxx take

[box_of_frogs]

£20 million? Weeds are having our pants down.

[Buxtonclaret]

Nah
Can't see the Wood for the Fees.

[Braindead]

Nah
Can't see the Wood for the Fees.

Take a Bow Son.

[fatboy47]

Never worth that sort of money.

I'd prefer we shipped our cash down to the dry powder facility than paid way over the odds for Wood.

[IanMcL]

Apparently were in for Florin Andone from La Coruna in Spain according to SSN, 13m Euro bid

Just a two bob player?

[IanMcL]

Smith?

Whhops! Throwback! Woods of course.

[Darthlaw]

Gray was in the last year of his contract. Makes a big difference.

Surely not when you consider a striker with proven goals in the PL with one year on his contract vs one who hasn't?

How can Leeds think he is worth more?

[claretandy]

Daily star reporting Wood fancies the move, this could get interesting !

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[lrac]

25m.move on please

[Reecey1987]

25m.move on please

I thought we already have ?

[texasbrit]

Thank god its been rejected
We can do better than Woods, and Weeds are just taking the pi55 because we now have some surplus cash and they haven't lmfao

[Pearcey]

Leeds don't need to sell so they can slap any price on they like.

[Goalposts]

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he wants to come not happy with leeds demands

[Lancasterclaret]

"Dream move"

Both newspapers going just a tad over the top there!

[jedi_master]

He will end up signing for an undisclosed fee between 15-20m on deadline day after refusing to play for Leeds.

Calling it now.

[1968claret]

He will end up signing for an undisclosed fee between 15-20m on deadline day after refusing to play for Leeds.

Calling it now.

ExActly what I was thinking. As soon as the player starts making noises angling for the move, it's just a matter of time. Apart from Dale Stephens that is

[CFS]

Interesting.
Very interesting.
Very very interesting.
Very very very ok ok Il stop.