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Aaron Lennon

Post by Diesel » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:24 pm

...would be the perfect acquisition, perfect.

I've never been a fan of inverted wingers but even less so in a five man midfield, there really is no sense in playing people on the 'weaker' side, JBG isn't comfortable on the right you can tell, a lot of moves break down because it isn't natural to him to attack on the outside.

Lennon would give natural width on the right leaving JBG and Brady to battle it out for left side berth, providing great competition which would bring out the best in both of them.

Perfect, let's get this done then.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by IanMcL » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:26 pm

Certainly Gudmundsson was pedestrian on the right, in terms of getting to the byline and crossing....that's over, while he plays there.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:27 pm

Isn't he having time out for depression or something? :(

Besides, who says JBG isn't comfortable on the right? That's where he plays for Iceland, isn't it?

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by scouseclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:34 pm

He was sectioned earlier his year. Don't know what his current situation is or if he's back training.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:36 pm

scouseclaret wrote:He was sectioned earlier his year. Don't know what his current situation is or if he's back training.
Yes, other than that and the OP being wrong about JBG, it was a great post!

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Sidney1st » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:37 pm

He's back in training and been speaking about his issues openly.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Diesel » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:39 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Isn't he having time out for depression or something?
He was in the Everton squad for their midweek Europa League match against Hajduk Split.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:42 pm

Diesel wrote:He was in the Everton squad for their midweek Europa League match against Hajduk Split.
Fine, but the last thing we need is a player with "issues" at this current time. We couldn't sort Keith Treacey out.

Whether that means we're not as good as other Clubs at dealing with players with mental health issues, I've no idea, but recent history suggests not.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Raggus » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:43 pm

Played and scored in pre season games and been in matchday squads.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Diesel » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:43 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Besides, who says JBG isn't comfortable on the right? That's where he plays for Iceland, isn't it?
With respect, I'm not bothered where he plays for Iceland but I can guarantee you that as a left footed player who is expected to provide crosses he would prefer to play on the left.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by UpTheBeehole » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:44 pm

There could be a player in the first team squad right now, suffering from depression or somesuch.

You wouldn't know, if we were good at dealing with it.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:46 pm

Ive always rated Lennon,seem to have lost his way and has personnel problems. But probably worth a punt if he's free.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:46 pm

Diesel wrote:With respect, I'm not bothered where he plays for Iceland but I can guarantee you that as a left footed player who is expected to provide crosses he would prefer to play on the left.
Have you asked him?

Many players play on the opposite side to their favoured foot. It's supposed to be so they can cut inside easier.

Playing on the right for Iceland didn't do him much harm against England, did it?

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Steve1956 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:48 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Fine, but the last thing we need is a player with "issues" at this current time. We couldn't sort Keith Treacey out.

Whether that means we're not as good as other Clubs at dealing with players with mental health issues, I've no idea, but recent history suggests not.
I just thought Treacy's problem was that he was fat and useless,wasn't aware of anything else.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Braindead » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:48 pm

JGB has been pretty dire in both of our games thus far - we urgently need an upgrade imo. A fully fit and mentally strong Lennon would be perfect for us.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Diesel » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:50 pm

fidelcastro wrote:It's supposed to be so they can cut inside easier
Yes, I know what the theory behind it is and in a five man midfield that theory is flawed.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:50 pm

Braindead wrote:JGB has been pretty dire in both of our games thus far - we urgently need an upgrade imo. A fully fit and mentally strong Lennon would be perfect for us.
Didn't he assist one of the goals at Chelsea?

I think he deserves a chance to cement his place in the team.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by northernpowerhouse » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:51 pm

Exactly what we need. I wouldn't be too worried about the depression/mental illness thing. I'm sure the lads would make him feel welcome.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:51 pm

Diesel wrote:Yes, I know what the theory behind it is and in a five man midfield that theory is flawed.
Why? Does he never need to cut inside in a five man midfield?

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:51 pm

Lennon returned for pre-season training at Everton and then issued the following statement.

It's great to be back after a difficult period. I've had a good first week of training and I can't wait to kick on now.

I want to thank all the staff and patients at The Priory in both Darlington and Altrincham and all the staff at Salford Royal Hospital.

The support I've had from Everton, Spurs, their fans, football fans and concerned members of the general public has been incredible.

It's important for me to emphasise that there is amazing help out there and anyone feeling anything out of the ordinary should seek support because it's great and good to talk.

Lastly, a special thanks to the staff at Everton, my team mates, and especially my family and the people around me.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Braindead » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:53 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Didn't he assist one of the goals at Chelsea?

I think he deserves a chance to cement his place in the team.
I think the assists were Lowton, Cork and Defour at Chelsea.

Fair enough, he deserves a chance, same as everyone else, but this is not a new player we have here, this is someone who has played 20 times last season...?

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:54 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Lennon returned for pre-season training at Everton and then issued the following statement.

It's great to be back after a difficult period. I've had a good first week of training and I can't wait to kick on now.

I want to thank all the staff and patients at The Priory in both Darlington and Altrincham and all the staff at Salford Royal Hospital.

The support I've had from Everton, Spurs, their fans, football fans and concerned members of the general public has been incredible.

It's important for me to emphasise that there is amazing help out there and anyone feeling anything out of the ordinary should seek support because it's great and good to talk.

Lastly, a special thanks to the staff at Everton, my team mates, and especially my family and the people around me.
Sounds like he'd prefer familiar surroundings then.

A move away at this stage may do him more harm than good. :(

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:56 pm

Braindead wrote:I think the assists were Lowton, Cork and Defour at Chelsea.

Fair enough, he deserves a chance, same as everyone else, but this is not a new player we have here, this is someone who has played 20 times last season...?
Who knows how many more games he'd have featured in, if it wasn't for that injury against Lincoln?

I think he'll come good. :)

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Diesel » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:58 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Why? Does he never need to cut inside in a five man midfield?
Think about it.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:01 pm

Braindead wrote:I think the assists were Lowton, Cork and Defour at Chelsea.
And in that order

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:01 pm

Diesel wrote:Think about it.
Oh, I have and after careful consideration, I still think you're talking codswallop.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Diesel » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:06 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Oh, I have and after careful consideration, I still think you're talking codswallop.
This isn't a dig at JBG, far from It, I'm trying to get the best out him because I know he has a cracking left foot on him but I want him on the left putting pressure on Brady.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by jlup1980 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:16 pm

Diesel wrote:This isn't a dig at JBG, far from It, I'm trying to get the best out him because I know he has a cracking left foot on him but I want him on the left putting pressure on Brady.
Exactly this... JBG should be back up for Brady. We need a new right winger with Arfield as back up on that side. Is Markovic right footed? He'd be a great signing in my opinion.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by claretspice » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:20 pm

JBG is on record as saying he prefers the right side, isn't he? Plenty of players who prefer cutting in rather than going down the line, for lots of reasons.

Anyway, leaving that aside, if someone said we'd sign Andone (or someone of that ilk), but also get Aaron Lennon on loan as a genuine wide option with pace, I'd be pretty delighted with our options. Lennon may well need to go somewhere where he is going to play a bit more to help his rehabilitation, and he might well look at how Dyche has dealt sensitively with one or two other souls with their challenges.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by SGr » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:27 pm

With a player like Wood ahead of a 5 man midfield, it makes a lot more sense to not have inverted wingers, better supply to lone striker. Lennon is at least the right type of player.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Saxoman » Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:28 pm

scouseclaret wrote:He was sectioned earlier his year. Don't know what his current situation is or if he's back training.
What kind of loser gets themselves sectioned eh? ;)

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by blackburnturfite » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:29 pm

Below the belt that remark Saxo, and common sense should tell you so !!

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by DCWat » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:46 pm

fidelcastro wrote:Why? Does he never need to cut inside in a five man midfield?
Cutting inside is easier for a right footed player on the right hand side. Delivering a ball in after cutting inside is easier for an inverted winger.

I'm not a fan of inverted wingers. I can see the benefit and it has suited us but with a five man midfield, wingers on their natural side would be my preference.

I'm not dismissing JBG but we can't afford to allow him lots of time to start delivering. Another option on that side (and utilising him on the left occasionally) might actually afford him more time to develop into the league.

We are starting to see some good understanding between Brady, Ward and Cork down our left hand side. We need more of the same on the right.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:49 pm

surely one of the key aspects of wingers cutting inside is the benefit of overlapping fullbacks - so far our full backs have 1 goal and 1 assist - no problem where our goals come from as long as we get them regularly

must add I have always liked a winger flying down the wing and whipping in a cross from the corner

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Diesel » Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:03 pm

There is a big defensive element involved in playing inverted wingers as well, for example last season Boyd and Lowton were our right hand side unit, Boyd is told to cover the opposing player cutting inside (showing him the outside) because Boyd is strong on his left, he then goes down the outside where he is met by the rightfooted Lowton, vice versa over on the left with Ward and Arfield.

This works defensively but detracts offensively, early signs are that Sean wants to move away from this approach as it means a pretty much certain relegation scrap.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Diesel » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:49 pm

Love this thread.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:50 pm

Defended well today.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by CleggHall » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:53 pm

Some great comments way back last August, much happier times now for both Aaron and the Clarets. It came to pass, welcome on board to a skilful, talented player.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 03, 2018 7:54 pm

Lennon at Burnley reminds me of playing Football Manager years ago. I think I signed him when he was about 19. I knew I'd seen him in Claret and Blue before! :-D

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by kaptin1 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:18 pm

He is seriously quick. Comfortably matched Walker for pace.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:28 pm

With some of the passes he makes our forwards are going to have to be switched on a lot more.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:34 pm

Did anybody notice when we scored today? Lennon was right into the celebrations! It looked to me like he was pleased as punch that we'd scored.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:36 pm

Awsome

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Burtonwoodclaret » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:51 pm

An Everton supporter mate told me yesterday, that he thought Lennon was the best defensive winger he had seen . He certainly played his part in defence today as well as getting forward in the second half. He is going to be a great addition to our squad and I hope he finds the togetherness of the Burnley club and team a great encouragement as he works through any personal issues. What most people want in life whatever their role or status is to belong and feel valued. If playing for a club like Burnley can do that for any of the team, support staff,board or supporters, then that’s worth a great deal.
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:52 pm

New lease of life for him with the mighty Clarets.

Couldn't be under a better boss. :)

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:01 am

Burnley fans were crying out for pace on the wings. We've actually sorted that out in one swoop... in one short January transfer window. Amazing, when you think about it. I 'get' what Sean Dyche is doing and I get the speed he's doing it at. He's not Harry Potter, but when you look at the pace and difference, it's superb.

It's all going to plan. There's no wonder he's just signed such a lengthy contract - his career is going in the direction he and the club want it to go in. I also think Burnley is part of his construction. He wants to build something and in a way, make it his own.

Let's continue to move forward and what 7th is now bloody superb, could well, in 2-3 years become a "we don't want to go back there".

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by JohnMac » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:05 am

His block in our area to win a goal kick during the last few minutes had me on my feet.

I said straight away it shows how quickly he has bought into the ethos of the team and club.

NEVER give up!
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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:21 pm

If he keeps up the promising start... England call up for the friendlies in March?

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:27 pm

Was the mental health thing at the Turf yesterday all about Lennon's problem's if so well done to all the lads on the video and the club,it's a problem that need's highlighting.

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Re: Aaron Lennon

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:45 pm

JohnMac wrote:His block in our area to win a goal kick during the last few minutes had me on my feet.

I said straight away it shows how quickly he has bought into the ethos of the team and club.

NEVER give up!
Absolutely. My mate sat next to me said, "did you notice who that were getting back!?"

Dyches mantra - "minimum requirement, maximum effort."


Quality.
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