Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

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Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by ClaretAndJew » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:24 am

What is it with this town and the incompetent levels of driving?

We all do the same lessons and text.

This is my first grumpy old man status since turning 30.

Have a good day all.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by box_of_frogs » Tue Aug 22, 2017 7:29 am

Was there a BMW or Audi involved?

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by simonclaret » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:08 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:this town
this country
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by 3putt » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:35 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:What is it with this town and the incompetent levels of driving?

We all do the same lessons and text.

This is my first grumpy old man status since turning 30.

Have a good day all.
Have you been hibernating somewhere?

For the last few years, indicators are an optional extra on cars which seemingly few people opt for.

Spending a lots of time on our lovely motorways, I can confirm that it is perfectly acceptable to move out into the next lane when overtaking without indicating irrespective of whether or not someone is in that lane. Preferable that manoeuvre should be carried out in slow motion too. :evil:

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Sidney1st » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:36 am

You should drive around the country a bit more, then you'll see how bad it is everywhere.

Thankfully self driving cars will be along and then the standard of driving will start to improve.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Hipper » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:39 am

As a pedestrian I have difficulty with modern indicators.

They used to be covered with an orange screen so you could se immediately where it was on the front of a car and if it was indicating. They also seemed to be mostly positioned on the very extremes of the car's width.

Now they appear to be part of one clear light unit, often on the inside of that light, and they are no where near as obvious to see.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by joey13 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:46 am

Didn't realise vehicles were still fitted with indicators, you learn something new everyday.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Falcon » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:59 am

As someone who travels down Ridge Ave on a daily basis, going straight on to Ormerod Rd at the roundabout, I'd say only about 20% of cars joining the roundabout from Queens Park Rd to my right actually use their indicator to say that they are going to turn left onto Ridge Ave. Upshot being I wait stationary when I could have driven on 80% of the time.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Sutton-Claret » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:09 am

Just spent 2 weeks driving in Spain - the only time I saw an indicator being used was on a rental car being driven by an English looking person. Never saw a Spanish car use an indicator once.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:09 am

Got to agree the amount of knobheads that do 360's around roundabouts with no indication whatsoever is astonishing, how do they surmise that people instinctively know where their going. Total lack of care in general.

I would fine them the same as mobile phone users, the police definitely need to crack down on them as it is an epidemic like the op suggests! Worst place for this is Bradford where people pull out on you without indicating, certainly makes you a better driver when ******** just pull out two meters in front of you!
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:11 am

People in this town are definitely the worst when it comes to roundabouts. Apparently give way to the right is optional. No wonder theyve put traffic lights on most of them.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by South West Claret. » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:13 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:What is it with this town and the incompetent levels of driving?

We all do the same lessons and text.

This is my first grumpy old man status since turning 30.

Have a good day all.
Please don't think it's just in the Burnley area, Lazy ignorant muppets all over this country I'm sad to say CAJ :x

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by The Enclosure » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:15 am

Dont get me started on driving standards.......waiting at the junction of Marsden Road as you wait to turn right down Briercliffe Road.The number of people coming up Briercliffe Road that are branching left onto Marsden Road that do not indicate is unbelievable...it is so annoying.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by UpTheBeehole » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:17 am

The general standard of driving is appalling.

On Sunday my car was almost wiped out by a middle aged bloke in a white Kuga or similar, when instead of turning left from his left hand lane coming off the M65W at Gannow Top, he decided he was going into the middle lane which the right lane fed into. I had to brake very sharply, but managed to combine this with a huge toot of the horn and a flash of the lights. Tosser.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:18 am

There should be an intelligent buk rocket launcher on the roundabout itself which senses that no indicator is being used for the right turn. Then it blows the ******* off the road as soon as they enter. That would make them think twice! :lol:

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by CnBtruntru » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:19 am

They are optional extra's now.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by UpTheBeehole » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:20 am

I do think that the only way to counter it is for everyone to toot their horn and give a w*nker sign every time someone does it. Hopefully people will get shamed into it eventually.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by tim_noone » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:21 am

Coming up from ewood yesterday,I'm at the back of a line of three vehicles..the first a van just swung right to turn into the J.W.ind.Estate. No break lights or blinkers,the young lad behind had no chance and helped the van on it's way with a right bang and two damaged vehicles.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Burnley Ace » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:23 am

Parker Lane is the worst, the two junctions by the library are just ignored.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by UpTheBeehole » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:25 am

Don't get me started on people who slam on their brakes and THEN indicate.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Juan Tanamera » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:27 am

Having using indicators drummed into you by your instructor and failing your test if you don't use them, how come people stop using when they do eventually pass their test?
And when you beep them for not using them you get the customary one/two fingered salute.
Buffoons, the lot of them.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:28 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:I do think that the only way to counter it is for everyone to toot their horn and give a w*nker sign every time someone does it. Hopefully people will get shamed into it eventually.
I'm sure I have done this a few times, I did the wtf hand gesture yesterday to some inbred in a small white van only yesterday evening! Going around the roundabout like a complete tool without indicating at rush hour!

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by tim_noone » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:30 am

The truth is though,all posters on here have made errors on the road..were just good at spotting when someone else makes one.and where are people racing to??

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by LeadBelly » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:31 am

The driving standards of some motorists is annoying to other car drivers but it's a fair bit more life-threatening to cyclists.
If you think the "give way to traffic from the right" is often ignored, you should see how often that happens when you're on a bike (and how often, when you're going straight on at a small roundabout, a car driver tries to turn left across your bows).

Obviously some cyclists are ignorant barstewards too (as are some mobility scooter drivers and some pedestrians).

I think it's a general problem with (the minority of) people who just don't seem to be able to take other folk into account.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:31 am

Burnley Ace wrote:Parker Lane is the worst, the two junctions by the library are just ignored.
I genuinely think anyone with an iq less than 100 doesnt know how to use this junction. That means even when someone correctly doesnt indicate when going 'left' towards the bus station you still cant chance going left in the other way. Proved yesterday when thankfully I waited for someone who didnt indicate and swung right at 40mph.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:34 am

Police need to get a grip on this as it happens everywhere, definitely need to take punitive action. It would be a fail on a driving test if there not used at any point so why are they optional when using the road normally? Mind boggling!

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by CJW » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:41 am

File alongside grammar and common courtesy in the "this whole place is going to pot" folder.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by South West Claret. » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:41 am

Yesterday there was a news item about the Police in Wales asking for the public to help in reporting road crime, I can't find the item at the moment but it was on R5 yesterday.

Now if we all were to be on piece work rates I could see that being quite popular as well as making some of these cretins think about their driving habits. :)

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by sox8595 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:47 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:The general standard of driving is appalling.

On Sunday my car was almost wiped out by a middle aged bloke in a white Kuga or similar, when instead of turning left from his left hand lane coming off the M65W at Gannow Top, he decided he was going into the middle lane which the right lane fed into. I had to brake very sharply, but managed to combine this with a huge toot of the horn and a flash of the lights. Tosser.
If you read the signs and observe the road markings at that junction BOTH lanes are for Burnley.
The right hand lane has never been marked to feed into the middle lane.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by BigChaCha » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:49 am

The biggest problem I find with other drivers today is tailgating!

90% of drivers seem to do it and it's just pointless me keeping a safe distance from the vehicle in front when the one at the rear is right up my arse!

I'm a pretty chilled guy but this really get's me incredibly angry. Every now and then I will hit my brakes on purpose to let them know how peed off I am :x

Last week I was driving down a country road ..... so chilled and on my own listening to my music that I'm not normally allowed to listen to when the family is in the car. Then some idiot follows me for miles literally about 4 or 5 feet behind me. I was driving at the speed limit and he had opportunities to overtake. If I had the family in the car I would of just cursed a bit and pulled over to let him pass but I was so mad at his attempt to bully me I slammed my brakes on just enough for him to miss me by inches. I think he got the picture because he literally dropped back about 200ft for the rest of the journey and was barely visible on the horizon :D

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by UpTheBeehole » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:50 am

sox8595 wrote:If you read the signs and observe the road markings at that junction BOTH lanes are for Burnley.
The right hand lane has never been marked to feed into the middle lane.
The left hand lane creates its own lane. The right hand lane feeds into the lane to the right of it.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by UpTheBeehole » Tue Aug 22, 2017 9:58 am

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If I pull out from that right hand lane into the middle lane, and the guy from the left hand lane pulls into the middle lane and crashes into me, that's his fault.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by tim_noone » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:03 am

No ones mentioning "road rage"? And looking at the posts on here that isn't an issue I suppose ..

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Leisure » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:04 am

And when did the law change to allow cars to drive through traffic lights on red? I've lost count of the number of near misses I've seen just because some d**k can't bear to stop when the lights turn red!

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by ClaretEngineer » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:04 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:
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If I pull out from that right hand lane into the middle lane, and the guy from the left hand lane pulls into the middle lane and crashes into me, that's his fault.
That is a proper sh*t junction. Then when you thought it couldn't get any worse, they put lights on the roundabout. Its a proper hash job round there.

I also hate the junction by Halfords and Sainsburys.

I'm getting cross just at thought of it, and now Solidworks has crashed doing a job I absolutely f*****g loathe at the moment. :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by UpTheBeehole » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:06 am

View it from this angle. Anyone pulling from that left hand lane into the middle lane, when someone from the right hand lane is pulling into that middle lane, is a grade A w*nker. They'd also be losing their insurance claim.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by South West Claret. » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:06 am

Blimey sounds "grim up north" :lol:

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by sox8595 » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:09 am

Sorry I guessed the op was talking about approaching from Blackburn junction not Nelson.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by ClaretEngineer » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:10 am

South West Claret. wrote:Blimey sounds "grim up north" :lol:
And off topic, but I'm cross now and don't care.

Getting to the North is even grimmer. Especially when Highways England (or whatever the f*** they're called) have decided to see who can cause the most rage in motorists by doing major roadworks on both M1 and M6 AT THE SAME TIME!

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by MACCA » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:10 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:
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If I pull out from that right hand lane into the middle lane, and the guy from the left hand lane pulls into the middle lane and crashes into me, that's his fault.
Are these the Gannow roundabouts as if you are coming from Nelson?

Shocking driving seen there daily.

Most try to avoid the queues by coming up the slip road which is for Burnley, then try and hop 3 lanes in 50 yards to head towards Padiham.

Any d1ck heads try this on my watch I drive side by side of them so they can't jump the 3 lanes, and have to go all way into town/Trafalgar street.... yet I'm the dick head for not letting them do it!

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by MACCA » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:13 am

Just to add, I'm currently away on holiday, and not only have I got to contend with, different side of driving, vespas weaving in and out , people dumping their cars anywhere they like and no indicators!

No wonder 99% of the vehicles here are mangled peices of crap.

Give me the UK any day!

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by piston broke » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:14 am

South West Claret. wrote:Yesterday there was a news item about the Police in Wales asking for the public to help in reporting road crime, I can't find the item at the moment but it was on R5 yesterday.
Now if we all were to be on piece work rates I could see that being quite popular as well as making some of these cretins think about their driving habits. :)
saw a piece yesterday whereby North Wales police have been trialling people sending there dashcam footage to them for prosecutions.
This has been such a success they are going Wales wide with it.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Sutton-Claret » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:15 am

ClaretEngineer wrote:That is a proper sh*t junction. Then when you thought it couldn't get any worse, they put lights on the roundabout. Its a proper hash job round there.

I also hate the junction by Halfords and Sainsburys.

I'm getting cross just at thought of it, and now Solidworks has crashed doing a job I absolutely f*****g loathe at the moment. :evil: :evil: :evil:
Tell your boss to invest in some decent software........

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by tim_noone » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:15 am

So much anger! But the poster with photos is correct in his observations.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by ClaretEngineer » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:19 am

Sutton-Claret wrote:Tell your boss to invest in some decent software........
Its French. Its not even Friday yet (it always crashes on Friday's) and its playing silly b*ggers.

In fact its not even Friday and I'm about to crash. We'd better beat Rovers tomorrow, or I'm going to be in a foul mood on Thursday.

I need a beer.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by FactualFrank » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:21 am

If shite drivers were removed from our roads, traffic jams would become a thing of the past and the number of accidents and fatalities I'm sure would plummet.

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by lovebeingaclaret » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:21 am

More technology is needed to get to grips with most situations though the major problem in most cases is speed.

Mistakes occur and I suggest that everyone who has posted on this thread has at times not indicated when they should. The problem is that cars going too fast cannot accommodate mistakes.

Traffic lights should have cameras that automatically record cars going through lights that are clearly red and fines and points issued automatically.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by yorkyclaret » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:23 am

MACCA wrote:Are these the Gannow roundabouts as if you are coming from Nelson?

Shocking driving seen there daily.

Most try to avoid the queues by coming up the slip road which is for Burnley, then try and hop 3 lanes in 50 yards to head towards Padiham.

Any d1ck heads try this on my watch I drive side by side of them so they can't jump the 3 lanes, and have to go all way into town/Trafalgar street.... yet I'm the dick head for not letting them do it!
I find it incredible that someone will deliberately block another driver from making a legal manoeuvre by deliberately making it dangerous for them to do so. Time you gave up driving.
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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Sutton-Claret » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:24 am

If you've ever had to fill in an insurance claim form, one of the questions asks whether you used your indicators (if applicable) - for that reason I've got into the habit of always using them, even on an empty road.

However, advanced driving courses and police traffic cops are trained to indicate only when required i.e not on an empty road or where it doesn't benefit another road user - apparently it removes an aspect of laziness making the driver more aware of his surroundings and other road users (any traffic cops or advanced drivers please confirm)

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Re: Indicators are optional in Burnley apparently

Post by Sutton-Claret » Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:26 am

ClaretEngineer wrote:Its French. Its not even Friday yet (it always crashes on Friday's) and its playing silly b*ggers.

In fact its not even Friday and I'm about to crash. We'd better beat Rovers tomorrow, or I'm going to be in a foul mood on Thursday.

I need a beer.
Have you tried turning it off - then on...
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