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Ashley barnes

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby claretlegend » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:24 am

Difficult player to play against but hopefully Wood is an upgrade in goalscoring terms. If we're still after a pacey striker it might make sense to sell Barnes. £5m-7m?

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:26 am

I likr Barnes. Has scored some vital goals and is a pain to play against. But he can be also painful to have in your side.

Hes played a big part for us. And s a character id be sad to see him go. But of we can recoup some of the Wood money by shifting Barnes I wouldnt be too disappointed.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby quoonbeatz » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:27 am

no surprise with the signing of wood.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Lord Beamish » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:31 am

I know Ashley Barnes isn't everyone's particular brand of Vodka, but he's been a real servant for our Club. I'd be sorry to see him go but, with the purchase of Wood and the potential addition of a Gray replacement on the cards, we could be tempted to let him go. I suspect we'll make quite a tidy profit on him too.

Aye, aye, Ashley!
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby ClaretTony » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:31 am

I think Barnes will play tonight

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby UpTheBeehole » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:32 am

ClaretTony wrote:I think Barnes will play tonight


I think Barnes will get sent off tonight then
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Lord Beamish » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:33 am

ClaretTony wrote:I think Barnes will play tonight

Cup-tying him for any new Club.
I remember that happening to Steve Thompson. Imagine if we'd have been able to bring him in to hold the game in extra time against Spurs, instead of a shot-legged Akinbiyi.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby ClaretTony » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:45 am

Lord Beamish wrote:Cup-tying him for any new Club.
I remember that happening to Steve Thompson. Imagine if we'd have been able to bring him in to hold the game in extra time against Spurs, instead of a shot-legged Akinbiyi.


I think that was Ade's last appearance for us too

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby smudge » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:51 am

His goal against Wigan highlight in that promotion season.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby NottsClaret » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:52 am

There'll be loads of Championship managers who'll want his particular 'skill set'.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Quicknick » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:52 am

I'll be sad to see him go. A true swashbuckling type of player.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Lord Beamish » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:54 am

Quicknick wrote:I'll be sad to see him go. A true swashbuckling type of player.


Brilliant description. A real roguish hero.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby northeastclaret » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:55 am

If there is any truth in this it would appear that the manager prefers Walters to Barnes, obviously you trust his judgement on this, but would be surprised and sorry to see him leave.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Mala591 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:57 am

Probably needs to drop down to the championship for regular football. Which is all that a professional footballer wants to do isn't it ???

A very good footballer who maybe needs to re-focus his game away from his recent over physical approach. Will do well under the right manager/coach and will be remembered with great affection by most Burnley fans.

p.s. if the transfer rumour is untrue then please ignore all of the above

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Den_Perry » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:57 am

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby JPS71 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:10 am

I would be really sad to see ashley go, but if he does go I hope its not to a prem team as he would be a bugger to play against.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Herts Clarets » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:15 am

smudge wrote:His goal against Wigan highlight in that promotion season.


A superb team goal, one touch football and a great finish by Barnes. He has been a good player for us but maybe it is time for him to move on. But not before he scores the winner tonight at BollEwood...... UTC

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Colburn_Claret » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:27 am

It would be sad to lose Ash. He always gave us 110%, and was a lot better than many gave him credit for. That said we are top heavy for strikers and someone has to go.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby claretspice » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:29 am

Be a shame to lose a whole hearted and committed player, but he's limited, lacks quality and composure at times and its hard to see how he'd be ahead of Walters for the second striker berth off a target man, or Vokes or Wood for the main man role. He's scored some great goals but he's missed some whoppers too.

Not sure I'd sell to any of the teams linked though - they're rivals. I'd be more than happy to sell to a top Championship side though.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby If it be your will » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:39 am

My favourite player.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby edlass » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:41 am

I see Barnes like I saw Rory Delap for Stoke. Like a necessary evil to help us get a foot hold in the premier league. It wasn't pretty but they did what they had to do (even when we moved some advertising boards) but then they moved on.

Then as we move on (I hope) we wish Barnes well. I thought it might be another season before we did though.

In the scrappy win against Stoke last year we put Barnes on with 20 mins or so to go and they just couldn't cope with him and even Martins Indi who had been good ended up spitting his dummy out! A valuable three points.

Of course he does contribute in other ways but you know what I mean :D
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby mikeS » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:48 am

One of the most committed Clarets ever for me.
Hope he stays and gets games.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby RogerBest » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:49 am

I really hope Ash isn't going.

He is a nightmare to play against and always gives his all.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby jlup1980 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:58 am

The problem with Ashley, especially in a 4-5-1, is where and when he plays. He's great coming off the bench to upset the opposition and get the crowd going, but he's not really going to start as a lone striker and I don't see him filling either of the wide berths. He should only really be starting in a 4-4-2.

Plus there's an issue with referee's now as well. He's clearly had his card marked as he gets in the book pretty much as soon as he goes anywhere near an opponent these days... and he picks up some silly yellows on the side of that!

Added to this, his record simply isn't good enough. 14 goals in 90+ apps for a striker is poor. I know 30 odd of those are from the bench, but even 14 in 60 is poor. Wood and Vokes have better records across their careers so he's well down the pecking order.

i like Ashley, he's a proper nuisance and he can be very effective, but personally I think we need better if we want to establish ourselves at this level.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby CaptainClaret » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:59 am

Would love to see Ash bag a winner at Ewood.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Sidney1st » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:59 am

Mangela at City never recovered from that game vs Barnes.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby IndigoLake » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:00 pm

I know people have different estimations of his quality but I think we can all agree that Ashley Barnes always gives 100% to the cause. I'm not saying that's enough for him to stay with us but I do like him. I'd be sorry to see him go. He's a real pest but he's our pest :)

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Wile E Coyote » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:00 pm

he can score occasionally too, his inclusion up front does cause havoc at times for usually quite composed defenders.
He might not appear polished and slick, but he offers something different. Commitment and passion are great attributes, barnes has both. i hope he stays with us, i like him.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby ecc » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:00 pm

I'd be surprised to see SD let Ash go.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Buxtonclaret » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:07 pm

Like George Boyd, total commitment to our system and club.
As mentioned above, rattles normally composed defenders.
Always been a fan of his.


Would also add, that 'team' goal v Wigan.
If Manure, Chelski or Arsenal had put that goal together, it would never be off the screens.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby RT88 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:12 pm

I'd be in favour of keeping him, even if we only play him against Man Utd to utilise his previous experience of riling up Mourinho and Matic.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby nil_desperandum » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:18 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I think Barnes will get sent off tonight then

Agree. Was only discussing this last night.
Barnes to start tonight and see red by HT.
He'll have to really change his approach given the way referees seem to have tightened up and are applying the rules this season.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby chekhov » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:27 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I think Barnes will get sent off tonight then

People keep saying this (red card waiting to happen) but has he actually ever been sent off while playing for us?

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby nil_desperandum » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:28 pm

chekhov wrote:People keep saying this (red card waiting to happen) but has he actually ever been sent off while playing for us?

Do you actually watch our games?

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby quoonbeatz » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:30 pm

chekhov wrote:People keep saying this (red card waiting to happen) but has he actually ever been sent off while playing for us?


twice, at least. and once against us.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby South West Claret. » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:31 pm

It's purely part an emotional response but Ashley Barnes performance at Man City away still remains in my mind when the player is mentioned, so I agree be sad to see him go.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Papabendi » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:37 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:twice, at least. and once against us.



2 whilst playing for us and five in total I believe

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby chekhov » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:38 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Do you actually watch our games?

No not very much, hence my hazy knowledge about our players' disciplinary records.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Papabendi » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:41 pm

I like Ashley Barnes, but the reality is to improve a step up in quality is needed, so he, along with the likes of Arfield and Boyd and Kightly before them are all surplus to requirements.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby lucs86 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:45 pm

If we bring in a winger and another forward and we get no injuries then he's probably not going to see much game time. I thought he performed really well last season, better hold up/link up play than Vokes I thought, he'll feel hard done to sitting on the bench all year. If he's expecting us to sign more he could be pushing for the door himself.

I'd rather we hung onto him till January at least, regardless of who we bring in. We could get injuries, we might want to get back to 442 for a run of games, he can cover at wide forward or wide midfield and, regardless of referees tightening up on it, more than any of our other forwards he'll be the one to win us free kicks round the edge of the box in the last 10 minutes.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby KRBFC » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:46 pm

Id rather we sold Walters tbh

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby tim_noone » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:49 pm

KRBFC wrote:Id rather we sold Walters tbh
Walters will be fine. :lol:

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby RalphCoatesComb » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:07 pm

I will admit that I was never a big fan of Ash but he did have a very good season last time around. Appeared that SD had had a word in his shell like and he stayed on his feet more often, rather than alleging he'd been fouled all the time.

He would make an excellent addition to the likes of Middlesborough, Leeds, Forest or Preston.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby ashtonlongsider » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:07 pm

Wouldn't surprise me to see Ashley sold. Suppose it's all part of our evolution. Barnes has been brilliant for us and offers something other strikers don't.If he went I'd be sorry but i also think his chances will be limited this season. Only hope it's not to one of our rivals, but i've no doubt the'll be plenty of suitors.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Imploding Turtle » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:09 pm

Hopefully the door doesn't hit him too hard on the way out.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby paulus the woodgnome » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:12 pm

His winner against Palace last season was awesome. Good luck Ash (if you do go that is).

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby Herts Clarets » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:15 pm

Barnes was sent off v Everton last season wasn't he?

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby RT88 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:18 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:Barnes was sent off v Everton last season wasn't he?


He was sent off against Everton but it was in the 2014/15 season.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Postby claretspice » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:20 pm

Everton and Hull his sendings off for us. In fairness to him, his sending off at Everton owed a lot to him being played out of position on the wing.

But Ive said before that I think that the Robson Kanu sending off was the sort of thing Barnes does time and again, so if refs are clamping down on it, he's got the potential to be a bit of a liability.


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