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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Spike » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:20 pm

He wont go anywhwere!

we are aiming to build a squad capable of playing different formations. Plus he was given a lengthy contract

Hes too good for Boro so forget that.

£5m isn't enough to sell him to a bottom half of the table rival like Newcastle.

£10m and three, I say three twix or he stays!
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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:24 pm

So, if this is true and Ashley Barnes gets a transfer, can we replace him in the squad? He has already played in the league so is one of our nominated 25

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Imploding Turtle » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:30 pm

claretspice wrote:Everton and Hull his sendings off for us. In fairness to him, his sending off at Everton owed a lot to him being played out of position on the wing.

But Ive said before that I think that the Robson Kanu sending off was the sort of thing Barnes does time and again, so if refs are clamping down on it, he's got the potential to be a bit of a liability.
Even towards the end of the West Brom defeat last week he was being a prick and was a hair away from getting himself into trouble.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by mkmel » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:22 pm

If Ashley Barnes was to leave we would be left with just Vokes and Wood as our only strikers so would then need to recruit 2 more.

And IMO Walters is not a striker

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Tall Paul » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:25 pm

boatshed bill wrote:So, if this is true and Ashley Barnes gets a transfer, can we replace him in the squad? He has already played in the league so is one of our nominated 25
The 25 man squads aren't submitted until after the transfer window closes.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by claretandy » Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:29 pm

boatshed bill wrote:So, if this is true and Ashley Barnes gets a transfer, can we replace him in the squad? He has already played in the league so is one of our nominated 25
You don't have to submit your 25 until the window "slams shut !"

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:00 pm

claretandy wrote:You don't have to submit your 25 until the window "slams shut !"
Oh.

Daft I call it.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:18 pm

mkmel wrote:If Ashley Barnes was to leave we would be left with just Vokes and Wood as our only strikers so would then need to recruit 2 more.

And IMO Walters is not a striker
What do you think he is then?

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by DCWat » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:24 pm

mkmel wrote:If Ashley Barnes was to leave we would be left with just Vokes and Wood as our only strikers so would then need to recruit 2 more.

And IMO Walters is not a striker
I'd say he's more striker than wide option although I know he has played out on the right plenty of times.

I'd be happy enough if he was a fourth choice striker / additional option for out wide, providing we get that extra striker and a wide man.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:36 pm

I'll be gutted the day Ashley leaves. He's scored numerous big goals for us and gives us something we simply do not have in any other player.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by KRBFC » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:43 pm

If he isn't included in the squad tonight he will be off.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by mkmel » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:43 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:What do you think he is then?
I would call him a forward with ability to play up front or out wide but IMO he is not an out and out goalscoring striker like Chris Wood or Sam Vokes

Could do a job up as a striker short term when needed but that's it

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by JohnDearyMe » Wed Aug 23, 2017 5:46 pm

claretandy wrote:You don't have to submit your 25 until the window "slams shut !"
I do love that phrase. Great example of footballese

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:09 pm

you need a yellow tie and a scottish accent to say it though !

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:09 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:I do love that phrase. Great example of footballese

When it closes is the transfer window firmly secured? Until the January gust blows it open again.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by nil_desperandum » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:42 pm

KRBFC wrote:If he isn't included in the squad tonight he will be off.
So you mean that if he isnt in the squad he'll be"off", and if he plays he'll be "off"?
:D

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:42 pm

Been a good servant but will need champ club for regular games surely ,he's committed and a fair touch but slow and very limited skill set .Does a job though and most clubs can use a resident "dirty b@stard" ,been a good asset for us

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by tim_noone » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:32 pm

KRBFC wrote:Id rather we sold Walters tbh
A battling performance from Walters ..in a bruising first half for him!

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:37 pm

Barnes has been absolute class ( along with cork arfield and brady)
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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by ewanrob » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:51 pm

Big mistake if the let Ash go, need a bit of nastiness on the pitch at times...he does it with aplomb
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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by jedi_master » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:52 pm

Tonight showing exactly why we shouldn't (and I believe won't) even entertain letting Barnesy go.

He is an absolute stalwart for our club, would run through brick and steel for us and totally 'gets' what we are about. Not bad for a southerner.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Rumbletonk » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:54 pm

Zero chance of him going

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by joey13 » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:55 pm

jedi_master wrote:Tonight showing exactly why we shouldn't (and I believe won't) even entertain letting Barnesy go.

He is an absolute stalwart for our club, would run through brick and steel for us and totally 'gets' what we are about. Not bad for a southerner.
Maybe he is fed up of being on bench , type of player not happy on bench

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by SussexDon1inIreland » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:09 pm

Awesome tonight gave 110%

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by IanMcL » Wed Aug 23, 2017 10:11 pm

Injured so going nowhere!

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Walton » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:14 pm

He's sh*te.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by MACCA » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:16 pm

Erm Eddie you're slacking, he spelt Barnes without a capital...

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:20 pm

We were talking about Ashley Barnes on Monday and after many threads had disappeared and me wanting to talk about him that much, I was banned for a day.

This thread must be about a different Ashley Barnes.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by addisclaret » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:22 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:We were talking about Ashley Barnes on Monday and after many threads had disappeared and me wanting to talk about him that much, I was banned for a day.

This thread must be about a different Ashley Barnes.
This is Ashley barnes not Ashley Barnes.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by longsidelewis » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:29 pm

What a great last game for Barnesy to be part of! utc

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:06 am

Happy for him to go. Don't rate him in the slightest.

Spends more time trying to cheat his way into winning free kicks than anything else. Plays with passion and has scored a few goals, but if the ref doesn't buy give him the fouls it's like playing with 10 men.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Dyched » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:09 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:We were talking about Ashley Barnes on Monday and after many threads had disappeared and me wanting to talk about him that much, I was banned for a day.

This thread must be about a different Ashley Barnes.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by superdimitri » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:31 am

Every team needs a che**cough* Barnes. Lets face it, we would hate him if he played against us, just the same as we hate that nasty piece of work Robson-Kanu. Every team needs one...certainly until video refs/refs clamp down on cheating.
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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Jakubs Tash » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:48 am

After last night, I am now convinced more than ever that refs now have Ashley's number. He now doesn't even get free kicks when he is fouled unless it is absolutely 100% obvious. Therefore the way he plays and the way he is effective for us isn't working anymore. If he can't put himself around and win free kicks I'm not sure what he is going to bring to the team.

Sadly, if we get a good enough offer, it might be mutually beneficial if Ashley Barnes were to leave and replaced by better quality.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Braindead » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:17 am

Typical Barnes performance last night, annoying centre halves, throwing himself to the ground, waving his hands in the air when decisions don't go his way, bustling his way through. Little in the way of quality though and given the opportunity I would sell him, depending on how serious Walters' ankle problem is.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Firthy » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:43 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote: Spends more time trying to cheat his way into winning free kicks than anything else. Plays with passion and has scored a few goals, but if the ref doesn't buy give him the fouls it's like playing with 10 men.
That's his biggest problem. Throwing himself to the ground at the slightest touch. A couple of occasions last night were quite embarrassing and I'm surprised SD continues to play him with those antics.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by nyclaret » Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:53 am

I just can't wrap my head around why any Claret would want to see Ashley Barnes leave. He's a crucial part to to how we play and is probably a big influence in the dressing room. To sell him to either Newcastle, Huddersfield, or Boro would be absolute madness. The cheek of some 'supporters' to start bashing him and saying he's not Premier League quality is sad. Ask most centre backs in the Premier League how they feel after playing against Ashley Barnes and I bet the most of them say it's never enjoyable!
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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by bfcmatt » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:01 am

nyclaret wrote:I just can't wrap my head around why any Claret would want to see Ashley Barnes leave. He's a crucial part to to how we play and is probably a big influence in the dressing room. To sell him to either Newcastle, Huddersfield, or Boro would be absolute madness. The cheek of some 'supporters' to start bashing him and saying he's not Premier League quality is sad. Ask most centre backs in the Premier League how they feel after playing against Ashley Barnes and I bet the most of them say it's never enjoyable!
Completely agree, He was central to quite a lot of our play last night. He had a superb shot, unselfishly played wood in where a lot of players would have gone alone. Superb horrible niggly player who gives his all for the club.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by billyhamilton82 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:20 am

Absolute class last night.

They couldn't handle him as he kept dropping deep to receive the ball and an obvious example of that is the first goal.

His ability to battle against centre halves much taller than himself is what his game is all about. He is on a loser from the start but can somehow control the ball on his chest from virtually every angle and at pace hold the ball up keep possession and start again.

He does what it takes to try and gain an advantage for the team.

To single out that area of his game is harsh and like dissecting Rooney's game and saying that he is always arguing and angry and does nothing else.

Everything he does is for the team. When he is in 40-60 situations he will do what it takes to try and win the ball ........for the team.

Ashley Barnes epitomises THIS team.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by TopCat » Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:22 am

He is a battler, we love him.
But as for end product and quality, we need more to progress.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Down_Rover » Thu Aug 24, 2017 12:06 pm

He is a true claret and I would keep him if only to win free kicks for Brady and Defour. To lose him just might damage the ethos of what this club is about. Dyche knows the type of player that works for us, now Cork Walters Bardsley and Taylor all fit that model and hopefully Wood too.

Barnes was an integral part of establishing that model

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by IanMcL » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:19 pm

http://futnsoccer.com/2017/08/24/newcas ... e-forward/

Stupid article! Shows picture of Ashley in his Brighton days. Then says "The Austrian....."

The club should watch out as there is a danger of throwing the spirit and camararderie out with the bath water here.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:22 pm

IanMcL wrote:http://futnsoccer.com/2017/08/24/newcas ... e-forward/

Stupid article! Shows picture of Ashley in his Brighton days. Then says "The Austrian....."

The club should watch out as there is a danger of throwing the spirit and camararderie out with the bath water here.
To be fair, he has represented Austria at senior level

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by IanMcL » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:24 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:To be fair, he has represented Austria at senior level
But they call him an Austrian!

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by UpTheBeehole » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:26 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:To be fair, he has represented Austria at senior level
He hasn't

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by Ilkley claret » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:26 pm

Talisman for everything Dyche stands for.

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Re: Ashley barnes

Post by ClaretAndJew » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:59 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:He hasn't
Sorry, you're right, U20 level.

Still, Austria represent, yo!

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