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Lance league 20/20

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:50 pm

Clitheroe need 25 off 5 overs to win against Darwen at Darwen.
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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:17 pm

Clitheroe win.

Good news for Burnley now in that Darwen can't win the treble,replocating Burnleys fantastic season. Them or Clitheroe will win a double now.

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by DavidFishwicksDad » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:48 pm

It's not good for the Lancashire league that two new teams r doing so good 1st year in must have some good players me thinks utc

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:57 pm

Or a lot of cash.

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Dressinggown » Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:57 pm

Both sides have some very good players.

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Post by DavidFishwicksDad » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:16 pm

What do u mean a lot off cash don't understand

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Andreshotboots » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:58 pm

One brings the other.. I shall say no more regarding both finalists

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Dressinggown » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:59 pm

DavidFishwicksDad wrote:It's not good for the Lancashire league that two new teams r doing so good 1st year in must have some good players me thinks utc
Lowerhouse are in the final of the LCB Lancashire Cup at Old Trafford on Sunday. They are due to face Ormskirk CC who won their Semi Final in the National Competition at Wolverhampton yesterday.

The 'House will go into the final as big underdogs but backed by several hundred supporters it promises to be a grand day out.

By the way it's free to go on with the A Stand, Pavilion and The Point stands being open.

Up the 'House.

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Dressinggown » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:07 pm

11:00am start.
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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:49 am

DavidFishwicksDad wrote:It's not good for the Lancashire league that two new teams r doing so good 1st year in must have some good players me thinks utc
The Lancs league wanted all the best clubs in the area to join the league extension, to make it a stronger standard. They underestimated the strength of local cricket I think. Darwen came 11th last year in the Northern league and Clitheroe were only playing in the Ribb league.

Lots of other strong cricket clubs coming in the league next year so paying players in the Lancs league will jump up another level.

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:48 am

Andreshotboots wrote:One brings the other.. I shall say no more regarding both finalists
And well done over the weekend to you personally and Rawtenstall

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue Aug 29, 2017 9:51 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:The Lancs league wanted all the best clubs in the area to join the league extension, to make it a stronger standard. They underestimated the strength of local cricket I think. Darwen came 11th last year in the Northern league and Clitheroe were only playing in the Ribb league.

Lots of other strong cricket clubs coming in the league next year so paying players in the Lancs league will jump up another level.
All fair points, It cannot be denied though that from the teams that both Darwen and Clitheroe put out last season lets say they've recruited well over the winter. And Darwen finished 3rd in the 2016 Northern League not 11th..

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:48 am

RocketLawnChair wrote:All fair points, It cannot be denied though that from the teams that both Darwen and Clitheroe put out last season lets say they've recruited well over the winter. And Darwen finished 3rd in the 2016 Northern League not 11th..
This link says 11th. Only going off the internet as I don' really follow the Northern league.
http://www.northerncricketleague.org.uk ... one-22898/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yes both have recruited well. Clitheroe getting a top WKT Keeper instead of the captain who was a backstop will of been a massive boost especially with the spinning pro. They have big strength in depth though Clitheroe. They won yesterday without their best bowler Marcus Sharp. Not bad when Josh Marquet comes in though.

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote:And well done over the weekend to you personally and Rawtenstall
Cheers Tony. Few runs for once, a nostradamus moment at the drinks break when I predicted a wood equaliser and a rare win, perfect day all round :D

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Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:43 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:This link says 11th. Only going off the internet as I don' really follow the Northern league.
http://www.northerncricketleague.org.uk ... one-22898/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yes both have recruited well. Clitheroe getting a top WKT Keeper instead of the captain who was a backstop will of been a massive boost especially with the spinning pro. They have big strength in depth though Clitheroe. They won yesterday without their best bowler Marcus Sharp. Not bad when Josh Marquet comes in though.
Sorry my mistake it was 2015 they came 3rd. Just looked at their scorecards from 2016, no wonder there 2nd team are doing so well in the LL its last years first team !!

Mirza missed a lot of games Al Davies Jordan Clarke and Neil Cordingley didn't play any too name but a few.

The pro is a monumental upgrade on last season also. They've come into the Lancs League and invested in a pro, called in favours perhaps brown enveloped a few, some have made comebacks due to less travel etc and they've put a very very good squad together. Fair play, or is it?

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue Aug 29, 2017 1:46 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:Cheers Tony. Few runs for once, a nostradamus moment at the drinks break when I predicted a wood equaliser and a rare win, perfect day all round :D
Two of the good guys getting tons in that one Chubb. Although I bet Tim would have been gutted with the news from Wembley.

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:37 pm

I was reminding him in his ear every ball from slip.. I've hardly ever heard Tim swear before..

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Aug 29, 2017 2:43 pm

RocketLawnChair wrote:Sorry my mistake it was 2015 they came 3rd. Just looked at their scorecards from 2016, no wonder there 2nd team are doing so well in the LL its last years first team !!

Mirza missed a lot of games Al Davies Jordan Clarke and Neil Cordingley didn't play any too name but a few.

The pro is a monumental upgrade on last season also. They've come into the Lancs League and invested in a pro, called in favours perhaps brown enveloped a few, some have made comebacks due to less travel etc and they've put a very very good squad together. Fair play, or is it?
At the beginning of the season I spoke to someone who was close to the darwen camp and they said the captains phone never stopped ringing with people wanting to come back to the club to play in the Lancs league/travel time etc.. but they were under the impression this new pro wasn't a patch on last years.
I don't know who last years pro was but Calvin Savage seems to have done very well for them.

I think you're allowed to pay travel expenses in any league to players and the Northern league would have the biggest expenses.

Is it fair? I don't know, players always end up at bigger clubs. Padiham would have been better off if Joey Hawke,the Tripathi's and Q Ali never left to go Lowerhouse. But in turn they have all moved on to other clubs (I know Joey has come back), in these cases the coaching staff at Lancs advised moves to improve their chances at Lancs.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Aug 29, 2017 3:12 pm

You're not allowed to pay travel expenses in the Lancashire League.

You can pay players to coach or groundsman etc but those players have to have been registered for 3 years before they can be paid in any capacity.

Jack Dewhurst is disclosed as Clitheroe's groundsman and Levi Wolfenden as a coach at Church. Not aware of any others although I am sure there will be among the clubs.

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by DavidFishwicksDad » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:35 pm

Just in from work this thread as got a few people angry about the lancs league spoke to a lad who plays lancs league cricket today and he said three teams don't pay the players my team colne thank god bacup and rawtenstall this car to be Wright utc

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:40 pm

DavidFishwicksDad wrote:Just in from work this thread as got a few people angry about the lancs league spoke to a lad who plays lancs league cricket today and he said three teams don't pay the players my team colne thank god bacup and rawtenstall this car to be Wright utc
I can 100% cast iron guarantee you and your lancs league playing friend Lowerhouse CC pay nobody but the pro.

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:58 pm

We were trying to sign a player from Colne a few years back and were told he wanted to stay there as they had a bonus scheme for the entire first team, I.e 2 pound a run 10 pound a wkt. Not long after they were nearly going out of business.
Rawtenstall have a player who was employed as a player/coach in the Ribb league for a couple of clubs and left when the money wasn't on offer anymore. Chances are he moved on for money again.
There's only Lowerhouse that I would be confident about not paying anyone in the last 5 years or so.

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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:02 pm

Didn't they want to bring the south African Frankie in as a "paid coach" this season but the league voted against it?
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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:11 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:We were trying to sign a player from Colne a few years back and were told he wanted to stay there as they had a bonus scheme for the entire first team, I.e 2 pound a run 10 pound a wkt. Not long after they were nearly going out of business.
Rawtenstall have a player who was employed as a player/coach in the Ribb league for a couple of clubs and left when the money wasn't on offer anymore. Chances are he moved on for money again.
There's only Lowerhouse that I would be confident about not paying anyone in the last 5 years or so.

Who was the said Rawtenstall player then?

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:14 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:Didn't they want to bring the south African Frankie in as a "paid coach" this season but the league voted against it?
Frankie wanted to play, there was never any suggestion he was to be paid. He was refused permission and so he has sat out a season so that he fits the criteria for next season.
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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:23 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:Frankie wanted to play, there was never any suggestion he was to be paid. He was refused permission and so he has sat out a season so that he fits the criteria for next season.

Not saying he did, just the rumours that were doing the rounds as part of the Ocky signing

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:25 pm

It's probably the 'rumours' that made clubs vote the way they did.

Ultimately a lad was stopped from playing so nobody has benefited.

He's playing next season.
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Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:28 pm

Just to add Ocky was signed as we thought he was the best man for the job not for any other reason. His stats tend to back that up.

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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:29 pm

I wasnt in any meetings so I've no idea. Good lad Frankie and a good player so will strengthen the "house" without a doubt

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Post by RocketLawnChair » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:30 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:Didn't they want to bring the south African Frankie in as a "paid coach" this season but the league voted against it?
We would be cutting our nose off to spite our face, Both Stan and Frank Enty have said the minute we pay an amateur to play for us they will stand down their considerable services..I know where my loyalty would lie on that one.

Francois was not allowed to play because of a flow in his residency qualification, nothing to do with coaching. Others just presumed because he is a good un we must be paying. Francois just fell in love with our club from day one and now wants too play for us in his spare time. He had numerous financial offers on the table for this season but refused them all so as not to jeopardise is qualification for us next season.

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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:31 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:It's probably the 'rumours' that made clubs vote the way they did.

Ultimately a lad was stopped from playing so nobody has benefited.

He's playing next season.
He wasnt stopped though out of spite I believe he didn't meet the qualifying criteria for this season? Same reason we couldn't sign a lad from Manchester but clitheroe have an Aussie playing for them.

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:32 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:Who was the said Rawtenstall player then?
I won't say his name but an off spinner who enjoyed time with Edenfield and Ossy Imm.

No definite proof but he is the type of player who moves about clubs for the player/coach role.

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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:37 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:I won't say his name but an off spinner who enjoyed time with Edenfield and Ossy Imm.

No definite proof but he is the type of player who moves about clubs for the player/coach role.
I can assure you we haven't paid anybody, player or coach.. we haven't even had any nets for 10 years up to the artificial ones being built. Practice is very poorly attended

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Aug 29, 2017 7:45 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:I can assure you we haven't paid anybody, player or coach.. we haven't even had any nets for 10 years up to the artificial ones being built. Practice is very poorly attended
It doesn't bother me either way. The older generation who whinge the most about it took advantage of bigger gates and collections every week.

Whatever makes the stronger standard is fine by me.

The richer clubs always had the advantage by signing the best Pro's as well.

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Post by Elder statesman » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:42 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: It doesn't bother me either way. The older generation who whinge the most about it took advantage of bigger gates and collections every week.

Whatever makes the stronger standard is fine by me.

The richer clubs always had the advantage by signing the best Pro's as well.
I represent the older generation, the whingers, and I have no problem with the richer clubs being able to afford better pros. I do, however, have a problem with clubs paying more than one player under some guise or another. Two Nelson amateurs joined Clitheroe this season and not for a change of scenery.

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Post by Leightonslaces » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:53 am

How many pro's are lowerhouse using today?

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:04 am

Leightonslaces wrote:How many pro's are lowerhouse using today?
When certain people tell me that Lowerhouse are paying no one other than the named professional then I 100% believe them, even more so when they make reference to people like Stan & Frank.
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Post by Leightonslaces » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:26 am

I'm glad that my club rawtenstall do it the right way. Hard playing in a league full off pro's

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Post by Leightonslaces » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:30 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:Just to add Ocky was signed as we thought he was the best man for the job not for any other reason. His stats tend to back that up.
Isn't the skipper on more than the pro?

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by Deardeary » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:36 am

Field play at Gt Harwood on Sunday and the only guy being paid by us will be Jonny Whitehead. We've lost plenty in recent seasons to paid posts, also, some "amateurs" haven't returned because we wouldn't pay, but punching above your level is something a lot of clubs are having to do and something most of us will have to learn to keep doing. On the flip side the standard of cricket at the leading clubs has definitely gone up a notch and it's in no small part down to the league expansion. No doubt it will improve further next season. Good luck to 'House on Sunday hope the weather holds

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Post by DavidFishwicksDad » Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:44 am

I don't think so he played at padidam last year so it's a good move for him to play at an higher level off cricket utc

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Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:35 am

He was pro at Padiham when Joey Hawkesbury was at Harwood.
It's far harder having the pressure of being the professional than being good amateurs.

While pro Ben described facing Liam Bones and another opening bowler for bottom of the league Edenfield as the toughest he had faced. Cricket is a tpugh game to gage standards.

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Post by Leightonslaces » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:47 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:He was pro at Padiham when Joey Hawkesbury was at Harwood.
It's far harder having the pressure of being the professional than being good amateurs.

While pro Ben described facing Liam Bones and another opening bowler for bottom of the league Edenfield as the toughest he had faced. Cricket is a tpugh game to gage standards.
So he has given up a pro job to play for nothing? Pull the other one!

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:51 am

Leightonslaces wrote:So he has given up a pro job to play for nothing? Pull the other one!
Seems someone registered just to have a dig at Lowerhouse. Very sad

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:54 am

Leightonslaces wrote:So he has given up a pro job to play for nothing? Pull the other one!
Don't think Ben was offered a second year at Padiham.

I can 100% guarantee that Lowerhouse do not pay any one other than Ocki for playing cricket. None of the players even get paid for coaching. They earn money from other clubs for coaching. We have never paid an amateur.

There would be no need to cheat with Ben, we could legitimately register him as a paid coach, no questions asked......if he was being paid.

If we were paying players I'd like to think that Jonny Whitehead, Matt Walker and possibly Will Driver would still be with us.

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by DavidFishwicksDad » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:10 pm

That's a bit unfair zizkov he might have a point why play one as a pro then go as a amateur doesn't make sense to me it's like Wayne Rooney leaving Everton then going to play for colne fc

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:14 pm

DavidFishwicksDad wrote:That's a bit unfair zizkov he might have a point why play one as a pro then go as a amateur doesn't make sense to me it's like Wayne Rooney leaving Everton then going to play for colne fc
Bit of a stupid post.

How about if you didn't get offered the pro job again? Would you just not play?

Also, there will come a point, as there does with every single professional footballer, where Wayne Rooney doesn't get paid for playing football.

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:15 pm

By the way, Colne FC pay players!

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Post by DavidFishwicksDad » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:26 pm

If that is true about colne fc paying players I won't go and watch again it costs me 8pounds to get on no way I'll stick to watching colne cricket club utc

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Re: Lance league 20/20

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:28 pm

I might be wrong but I imagine the majority of the team get paid at Colne FC. Clubs at that level all tend to pay.

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