RATE THE REF - Michael Oliver v Crystal Palace

[jdrobbo]

Michael Oliver (Newcastle) v Crystal Palace

How to Score
A. Decision Making (including use of advantage)-out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - out of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25

[jdrobbo]

A 16
B 13
C 21
D 17

[bfcjg]

A 13
B 12
C 22
D 14
Some very strange decisions and Benteke should have been booked a lot earlier. Also the liners were poor possibility due to the conditions.

[Wilsdenclaret]

23
22
24
23

[MACCA]

17
17
22
22

[bfcjg]

23
22
24
23

You're not related to him are you ?

[Shore claret]

Have the rules changed on taking the free kick in the right place, because if they haven't I dont think they took one in the right place.

[Wilsdenclaret]

You're not related to him are you ?

Thought my son had a near faultless afternoon

[NL Claret]

Has the rule changed when a player takes a throw in from the wrong place? In the past it used to be given to the opposing side. How many times did their left back take a throw in miles from where it went out despite being told by the ref?

Apart from the odd decision allowing them advantage by taking free kicks from anywhere and a couple of corners that looked like goal kicks he was reasonable.

[holdyourfire]

23
22
24
23

Are you on drugs,he was bobbins,i like him as refs go,but not today.

[dpinsussex]

Dont think he got too much wrong today. Not a particularly difficult game. Played a number of very good advantages. Dont think he had toxbreak sweat with this one.
As for throw ins from the right position yes technically nut most refs at all levels will allow some give and take to keep the game flowing. Did you not notice where he kept pinning them back by their own corner flag to take a throw in

[Wilsdenclaret]

Are you on drugs,he was bobbins,i like him as refs go,but not today.

Struggling to think of anything much he got wrong,

[NL Claret]

Yes, that's what I'm referring to. He took the same throw in twice from the wrong place. In the past the throw in would have been given to burnley. It didn't really matter as it wasted time.

[dpinsussex]

It wasnt miles away as your first post says. Bet it was no more than 7 or 8 yards. They arent really gaining an advantage that far back and as you said wasted a good minute or so.

[mdd2]

I learned today that when a player runs back from an offside position the FK s taken from where he receives the ball not from where he was offside- that was one FK that looked as if MO had allowed Palace to move forward.

[ClaretTony]

I learned today that when a player runs back from an offside position the FK s taken from where he receives the ball not from where he was offside- that was one FK that looked as if MO had allowed Palace to move forward.

That has been in place for over a year and yet there's still a crowd reaction when it happens. First time at the Turf was Watford last season. Ref was Mike Jones who was laughing at the crowd reaction.

[ClaretTony]

Didn't think he was anywhere near his best today.

A 17
B 16
C 24
D 18

[nil_desperandum]

I learned today that when a player runs back from an offside position the FK s taken from where he receives the ball not from where he was offside- that was one FK that looked as if MO had allowed Palace to move forward.

This is a crazy rule change since you can't be offside in your own half, but the rule now says that the free-kick should be taken from where you receive the ball, not the offside position. So today it was about 6 yards into our own half.

[dpinsussex]

This is a crazy rule change since you can't be offside in your own half, but the rule now says that the free-kick should be taken from where you receive the ball, not the offside position. So today it was about 6 yards into our own half.

Disagree. The free kick position is where you seek to gain the advantage having been offside

[kaptin1]

I suppose you could look at it the other way around too. If the free kick was taken from where the player was first offside then it could be that he was offside way further up the pitch than the defending team's back line. Would it be fair to ask them to therefore take the free kick much further back?

[dpinsussex]

I suppose you could look at it the other way around too. If the free kick was taken from where the player was first offside then it could be that he was offside way further up the pitch than the defending team's back line. Would it be fair to ask them to therefore take the free kick much further back?

It isnt an offence to be stood in an offside position. The offence is when you become active and in this occasion was in the other half

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Seems you can take throw ins and free kicks yards from where the ball goes out/offence is committed.

[Rileybobs]

It was funny how many people in the crowd still didn't know the offside rule. Despite it happening last season and being explained.

Not one of Oliver's best days for me. It was an easy game to ref but he made a few basic errors although none of them cost either side. Allowing Palace to take a free kick when Vokes (?) was offside from about 15 yards to the right of where it should have been taken allowed Palace a very unfair advantage to attack.

[CaptJohn]

Thought he applied a lot of common sense today. The conditions were not good at times so he let a few things go but got most decisions right. Still one of the better PL refs.
A. 20
B. 20
C. 20
D. 20

[Quickenthetempo]

There was a high boot from a Palace player in our area missed about 10 seconds before Tom got injured. If he had seen it and gave the free kick then Tom wouldn't be injured.

[DAVETHEVICAR]

A 17
B 17
C 23
D 23

[MDWat]

Best ref we have but he was crap today.

A - 10
B - 15
C - 20
D - 15

[Beagleheart]

A.16
B. 20
C. 23
D. 20

[chorleyhere]

Allowed Palace to take a throw in which Sammy Lee had fielded by his dug out , rolled it to a player stood by our dug out so throw-in not even taken from the correct half of the field - Oliver was very lax on this throughout the afternoon. Also thought that Benteke should have been booked for persistent fouling in the first half. Palace players trying to ref the game Puncheon in particular. Totally ignored Dann holding our players when we were taking a corner. MO is capable of a far better riffing display.

[kaptin1]

It isnt an offence to be stood in an offside position. The offence is when you become active and in this occasion was in the other half

I never said it was.

[RocketLawnChair]

Not just Oliver, they are all so inconsistent within the same game.

Yesterday Oliver made Tom replace a dead ball about two yards further back from where he initially placed it, It didn't make a blind bit of difference because every player on the pitch was in position. BUT then blew for pushing by Ward from our corner at the far side of the 6 yard box and let Palace take a quick free kick from the completely opposite side of the 6 yard box with virtually every Burnley player out of position.

it is almost as if they make it up as they go along.