Awful performance

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:46 pm

As good as we were against West Brom and somehow lost we were awful today and very very lucky to win. We should have played 4-5-1. We couldn't get a grip of the game. We cannot play 442 with that starting line up again.

Yes results are not bad but that was not a good game and Palace were unlucky. It was obvious we had just practiced on 442 all week and were not going to change. I said on 50 mins we would still stick to it and sub Defour on 80 mins for Westwood.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:49 pm

50 minutes. Westwood should have been on for a striker after 30 minutes. Unbelievable management. Still I will take 3 points.

Melbourneclaret · Post by **Melbourneclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:49 pm

Some great performances - Tarkowski especially. Brady was awful

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:49 pm

who cares. 3 points 7th in the table UTC

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:49 pm

And yet we won.

Brilliant management.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:50 pm

It was disappointing in the attacking sense. We dealt with most of what they threw our way minus the free header and the 1 on 1 that Pope saved. Great that we have the flexibility to switch between formations but 4-4-2 wasn't really working for us today, that's for sure.

Felt a bit like some of the games last season. Nicking a goal and then holding onto the lead, even if it's not pretty. But as you've said, we were good versus West Brom and got nothing. So a poor performance and 3 points is a nice problem to have, haha. Apart from today, I've enjoyed our performances thus far - in the PL and in the cup.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:50 pm

Guys,

we won!

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:50 pm

3 points against West Brom and 0 today wouldn't have been unfair. Putting Barnes on didn't really prevent Cabaye from picking space up and continued to leave us overrun in midfield - Westwood for Vokes would have been the change I'd have made but fortunately we rode it out.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:50 pm

Yes defence was very good and Cork even better
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warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:51 pm

I tend to agree with you but with Liverpool away next week we will be back to 4 5 1, with Vokes dropping down to the bench and I suspect Arfield or Westwood coming in

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:52 pm

warksclaret wrote:I tend to agree with you but with Liverpool away next week we will be back to 4 5 1, with Vokes dropping down to the bench and I suspect Arfield or Westwood coming in

Is Hendrick out again next week?

Zesty · Post by **Zesty** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:53 pm

Who gives a ****, we won, defended well, 3 more points and 7th in the league.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:54 pm

Every single game Dyche always says the thing - he looks at is the performance and if we get that right then results will follow. As unlucky as we were against WBA we were lucky today. We couldn't have complained if we lost 1-4 today

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:54 pm

... Played like true champions! Oh what a lousy victory.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:54 pm

summitclaret wrote:50 minutes. Westwood should have been on for a striker after 30 minutes. Unbelievable management. Still I will take 3 points.

Said the same thing verbatum to my missus after about 50 minutes. Needed an extra body in midfield and my choice would have been Westwood for Vokes. Got overran in midfield the entirety of the second half. Still. A win's a win, albeit we didn't deserve it.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:55 pm

If we're going to be realistic, that set up was utterly dreadful.

Yes we won...god knows how...Palace should have had a hatful.

Some great defending but the rest was utter cack.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:57 pm

It's quite annoying that the pundits will criticise our performance today but didn't give us the praise we deserved against West Brom. Funny old game.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:57 pm

Brady was by far the worst player for us. Misplaced passes and poor control putting us under pressure.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:59 pm

It's not about the fact we got 3 points, so it doesn't matter. You can win and still learn a lot. I think we tried 4-4-2, because we were at home to a team clearly in poor form, but expect us to revert back to 4-5-1.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 3:59 pm

Good teams grind out wins without playing well.....

Tarks proved a few doubters wrong today.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:00 pm

Not pretty at all (bloody dour at times) and a few players (particularly Brady) not on it - yet we played with some real nous in the 2nd half finding a way to get into their heads with soft free kicks and defended pretty solidly. They tried hard but lacked belief, we tried had and had it and that's why we won. All in all a Pulis done to them - that is progress in my book 7 pts from the first 4 games

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:04 pm

The early sub restricted SD but Brady had an awful carry over from the Internationals.
On the plus side JBG was much improved and folk might get off Tarks back after an immense showing.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:07 pm

Zesty wrote:Who gives a ****

Sean Dyche I suspect. You can win and come away with things that need working on.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:08 pm

Sean on BBC

Burnley manager Sean Dyche: "We were resolute, that was the key. Palace were the better side today, we didn't get into our stride at all.
"They played well throughout the game. Sometimes it's just not your day. It's our worst performance of the season so far but the shape of the team, the belief in each other was on show.
"Chris Wood has made a good start and he scored a hat-trick for his country in midweek as well. He has a desire to prove himself in the Premier League, it was a great finish.
"Nick Pope made some good saves today, that will do him the world of good.
"Tom Heaton, it looks like a dislocated shoulder and if that is the case we are looking at months, not weeks."

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:09 pm

Should have won against WBA, as a few have pointed out.
Not a great show today, but we ground it out, together with a bit of luck
because Scott Danns a plank. That's the way it goes.

Seventh in the PL. For today, it's all that matters.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:10 pm

Well that was really painful.

Made me poorly did that second half.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:12 pm

Shocking today but 3pts eases the pain

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:12 pm

Fact from the BBC

The Clarets are guaranteed to end today in the top eight of the top-flight outside the month of August for the first time since April 18th 1975.

Brunlea · Post by **Brunlea** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:13 pm

We dug in and got a precious 3 points. This is the premier league and Palace were as unlucky as West Brom were lucky so it balances out. On the plus side thought our defence were exposed but immense and Woods two games two goals!UTC

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:13 pm

I'd rather play **** and win.

Although most on here seem to love a good performance and a loss.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:14 pm

Shut up. We won.

Stan Tastic · Post by **Stan Tastic** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:18 pm

Did we sit too deep because of our lack of pace at the back?

It was obvious very early that we needed another body in midfield.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:18 pm

West Brom - good performance no points.
Palace - poor performance three points.

Here's to more poor performances.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:19 pm

The Palace team switching to a back 4 rather than the 3 they have used so far this season threw our team selection out the door. Our switch to 4-4-2 was negated by their system change and then grabbing the early goal sort of put us on the back foot for the rest of the 1st half. Defour had a great game defensively but even he couldn't get the ball down and controlled. A very disjointed display passing wise with no determined effort to try and play football rather than hoofball.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:19 pm

I thought we played very well until we scored

After that you always expect a reaction from the losing side for a few minutes however the few minutes lasted for the rest of the match. Great defensive performance and three points is all that matters. I think Dyche might go with five in midfield at home next time we play a team with such pace.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:20 pm

Shocking team selection
Being loyal only gets you the sack
451 was the team for today but he couldent drop Vokes
Crazy stuff Palace were pure shite
We made them look good
Please Mr Dyche revert back to 451 for Liverpool

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:22 pm

bfcjg wrote:I thought we played very well until we scored.

What, all 2 minutes 50 seconds of it?

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:24 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Every single game Dyche always says the thing - he looks at is the performance and if we get that right then results will follow. As unlucky as we were against WBA we were lucky today. We couldn't have complained if we lost 1-4 today

I think we could! They only had 2 clear chances.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:25 pm

I'm confused, it feels like we lost with the complaints on here...

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:29 pm

I watched it on tv
My friend was at the game
He phoned me after
Said it was the worst performance in a long time
Midfield totally over run
Ball coming back at the back four constantly

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:29 pm

bfcjg wrote:I thought we played very well until we scored. .

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:29 pm

It makes you wonder wtf the 3 in our management team were discussing for an hour because from the centre of the jhu it was bleeding obvious that we needed an extra man in centre midfield.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:29 pm

IndigoLake wrote:I think we could! They only had 2 clear chances.

first half
Benteke free header 8 yards out
Dann shot, Lowton off the line

Second half
Benteke clean through
Dann shot, Tarks off line
Dann free header

We were VERY lucky not to concede at least 3 today

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:30 pm

That win convinced me how special the team is and how good we are.

Under the cosh throughout
Sub keeper on for his debut
Couldnt get hold of the ball as a tem

But the defence were outstanding. Clearences off the post. Bodies on the line and a fantastic save or two from pope.

Tarkowski and Lowton in particular were class.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:31 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:first half
Benteke free header 8 yards out
Dann shot, Lowton off the line

Second half
Benteke clean through
Dann shot, Tarks off line
Dann free header

We were VERY lucky not to concede at least 3 today

The thing is, we clear off the line on a fairly regular basis. We block shots on a very, very regular basis. Most of that was fairly routine for us. I maintain that Dann's free header and Benteke's 1 on 1 were their 2 main chances. Still, we won so I won't argue the point too much

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:33 pm

Their failure to score was down to their bad finishing.

Nowt to do with our luck.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:34 pm

FactualFrank wrote:What, all 2 minutes 50 seconds of it?

Now edited with the smiley inserted.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:38 pm

Tbh I fully agree with the OP. I was screaming for us to go 4-5-1 after 60 mins but in fairness we got the 3 points so you can't complain too much.

We are definitely a better side playing 1 up top though.

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:40 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:first half
Benteke free header 8 yards out
Dann shot, Lowton off the line

Second half
Benteke clean through
Dann shot, Tarks off line
Dann free header

We were VERY lucky not to concede at least 3 today

Said Jim Beglin on the NBC stream

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:46 pm

Great to get three points, but we were very lucky today. Clearly struggled with the 4-4-2 formation, one the most one sided games I have seen for a long time. Played way too deep with 10 men in our own half for most of the second. Fortunate that Palace didn't have their shooting boots on.We won't get away with that kind of performance very often.