De Boer sacked

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:29 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Parrish was tweeting at 7pm last night. Not the best start. We must stick together.

16 hrs later and all change

Pillocks

Said he had lost plot.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:29 pm

It's a good point about following Allardyce. His style, and the personnel he needs to deliver it are almost unique, bar Pulis. It's proved practically impossible to follow him successfully. You effectively need someone whose prepared to adopt the same pattern and then gradually evolve the style. If you look at Stoke it's only really last season/this season that they've moved on from the Pulis template.

Fulham's escape under Hodgson was amazing but it was several years ago and the game's changed a lot since them. Thought there were some real positive signs for Palace yesterday. If I was a fan I'd have been encouraged by that performance compared to Huddersfield on the opening day. With Sakho to come in and a fit Zaha would have thought De Boer was a better bet to get them out of a trouble than an out-of-touch Hodgson.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:30 pm

What a joke. They have two of their best players to come into the side with Sahko and Zaha, and without them they should've won yesterday quite easily. It was only a ridiculous error that cost them a point too, we were hardly peppering their goal.

Palace chairman Steve Parish was at Turf Moor on Sunday, and said afterwards: "It's a terrible start but we have to stick together.
"People are frustrated, I'm frustrated, so are the management and players. We know we are better than this.
"I'm defending everyone at the club who is working their backside off to turn this around. Football teams lose games. It happens.

Way to stick together, Steve.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:30 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Said he had lost plot.

Clearly

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:31 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:I'm assuming you mean De Boer - SD fairly marched off the field by the CFS with no acknowledgement to the crowd. You could see he wasn't best pleased by the cack the lads had just served up unless he was embarrassed by the classless "You're getting sacked in the morning" jibe aimed at a fellow professional.

Dyche will be going nowhere and if even he did lose his marbles and joined that shower of """, who would we get ?

De Boer ? Gi' oer !

He defo applauded the Jimmy Mac and JH ends

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:33 pm

Couldn't have helped the cause of De Boer with Sam Allardyce being quoted in the media every other day offering his thoughts on where things were going wrong and what he would have done to turn things around. If he didn't want to return to Palace he should have kept his own counsel and given the new regime a chance. But that is the Premier League and modern day media I suppose.

lucs86 · Post by **lucs86** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:38 pm

It's a mad decision but for the life of me I can't figure out how Hodgson is the answer, he's utterly uninspiring, don't see how he improves their chances.

They played pretty well yesterday without 2 of their most important players. De Boer can't do much about the type of individual error that led to the goal.

4 games is an insult, hope they go down. They've got players on £100k/week+, relegation would hurt them a lot.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:42 pm

If they appoint Hodgson I would get the funny farm ambulance ready for Parish.

He's got to be the worst manager going, the England team in France were an absolute embarrassment, no tactics and no ideas!

Allardyce needs to get back there, weird how they left a £26m defender in the stands also!

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:44 pm

They must be desperate. A bloke who's been out of football for a year and who hasn't managed at club level for around 6 years!!

Football has moved on

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:48 pm

Hodgson is seen as a "safe" pair of hands I suppose. They should stay up and I'm confident they would have done under De Boer. Once they get Zaha and Sakho in that team they'll be absolutely fine. I hope they relegated now. No class as all from Parrish; especially saying they all needed to stick together yesterday. I'm don't think they'll lure Sean away if this is how he treats managers after 4 games!

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:52 pm

Perhaps Hodgon got brownie points for being born in Croydon.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:52 pm

I hope Palace are relegated as a result of this. A manager deserves more time than that, particularly after yesterday's performance. Palace played well enough but just couldn't get the ball in the net - it happens.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:53 pm

In a crap German accent ok I know he's Dutch " For him De Boer is over "

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:58 pm

Very poor decision from Parish, they absolutely roasted us yesterday, only great defending and terrible finishing stopped it from being a rout. They could have easily won 4-1.

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:59 pm

Crazy decision. Palace played well even partially in the Dutch Way. Apart from their finishing they were excellent and could/should have won the game quite easily. Will Palace improve under Woy ? Doubtful and hopefully not !!

ralph · Post by **ralph** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:03 pm

Excellent ? How ? If buts and maybes .. the aim of the game is to outscore the opposition and they couldn't"t .. end of story we move on.

mickleoverclaret · Post by **mickleoverclaret** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:03 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:If they appoint Hodgson I would get the funny farm ambulance ready for Parish.

He's got to be the worst manager going, the England team in France were an absolute embarrassment, no tactics and no ideas!

Allardyce needs to get back there, weird how they left a £26m defender in the stands also!

England haven't looked much better before or since Hodgson. Even in Allardyce's game in charge they were equally tedious and uninspiring. Hodgson's record at similar sized PL clubs (West Brom and Fulham) is excellent and I think Palace will be fine under him.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:07 pm

This is madness isn't it? 4 games in and sacked after a very creditable defeat away from home. Football really has gone nuts.

Giftonsnoidea · Post by **Giftonsnoidea** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:09 pm

mickleoverclaret wrote:England haven't looked much better before or since Hodgson. Even in Allardyce's game in charge they were equally tedious and uninspiring. Hodgson's record at similar sized PL clubs (West Brom and Fulham) is excellent and I think Palace will be fine under him.

Maybe, but I would rather self harm than watch a Hodgson team, can't see how they go from total football to counter attacking negativity which is his style in this league.

I will be amazed if he's successful, stranger things have happened tho!

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:12 pm

mickleoverclaret wrote:England haven't looked much better before or since Hodgson. Even in Allardyce's game in charge they were equally tedious and uninspiring. Hodgson's record at similar sized PL clubs (West Brom and Fulham) is excellent and I think Palace will be fine under him.

A remarkably consistent 35% win ratio whether at Liverpool or Fulham. Personally I think the guy is a total no-mark but it will probably be enough to keep them up.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:16 pm

Absolutely crackers. I would love to see them get relegated, it's no more than the club deserve. But it's not what the fans deserve, they are football supporters like the rest of us and deserve better.

SonofPog · Post by **SonofPog** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:17 pm

Quick look at some palace boards and they're not too happy, saying the same stuff as us really, Parish getting a lot of stick.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:21 pm

He'll be bidding for Kane in the next transfer window, they need someone to take corners .

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:24 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:Cue the Dyche to Palace fiasco...

Gone he has after Four games..what nonsense

WadingInDeeper · Post by **WadingInDeeper** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:38 pm

Bizarre decisions, sacking and new manager. They played well enough yesterday, maybe a lack of confidence in front of goal, possibly a bit too desperate to score. On another day one of the clearances would have gone in.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:39 pm

ClaretTony wrote:No statement yet but it looks as if he's gone and Hodgson is to be given a 2 year deal

Probably been waiting in the wings for this very moment.

Decades · Post by **Decades** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:50 pm

Ridiculous decision, they played well! Takes time to embed your style of play and get the message across.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:55 pm

Ridiculous decision especially in context of yesterday's performance.
With key players not available yesterday, I'm certain De Boer would have ultimately kept them up comfortably.
Bad news for those getting carried away by this, however, is that I believe this squad of players are good enough to stay up, and that under Hodgson they'll be ok. (As they would have been under De Boer, but I think De Boer would have taken the club forward beyond this, unlike Hodgson, who will take them backwards in terms of approach).

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:56 pm

Decades wrote:Ridiculous decision, they played well! Takes time to embed your style of play and get the message across.

As I said, if you don't want to change totally the way you play you don't go from that list of recent managers to De Boer. That's where Palace got it wrong. They need to give a manager with a new style plenty of time to get his own type of players in etc.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:59 pm

If Hodgson loses 4 in a row are they going to sack him ?

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:01 pm

Blackrod wrote:If Hodgson loses 4 in a row are they going to sack him ?

My guess is no.

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:02 pm

Harry R next manager to be sacked ?

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:07 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:hodgson is perfect for them, they're an average set of players and his repetitive, drill-based training will make them solid.

they'll be like his fulham side.

Their "average" set of players, though, cost 233 million pounds..................

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:08 pm

MT03ALG wrote:Harry R next manager to be sacked ?

Not if West Ham lose to Huddersfield tonight.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:24 pm

I think the Americans made this decision not Parish. I might have it the wrong way round but didn't they want Dyche but Parish wanted a change of style and talked them round? If it was that I can see the conversation as 'we tried your way but it hasn't worked'. They flew back to America last night and left Parish to take the flack. His tweets read like he was prepared to stick it out.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:26 pm

Sack erm all I say...just can't get the management these days

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:27 pm

I've never been able to understand why Hodgson (and a number of other managers for that) is able to command the 'respect' of decision makers within football, what has he EVER achieved apart from making a Swedish club (I think) a decent side for a year or two? The amount of clout that some of these people carry seems to be over and above any actual ability. England were tragic under him and his exploits in the club market are less than impressive.
Nothing against Palace as a club or their fans but I sincerely hope they go down after this, Parrish is a first class idiot. Thank goodness Dyche didn't wind up with that guy as a boss, what a waste of his talent that would have been. Look at what has happened with us for giving Dyche the time and space he needed, clubs like Palace should be looking in our direction to see how it's done.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:38 pm

timshorts wrote:Their "average" set of players, though, cost 233 million pounds..................

crazy isn't it.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:46 pm

I can remember De Boer writing an article when Waddle got the Burnley job saying how successful he would be , if only we had given Waddle 4 games

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:00 pm

Madness.
I can't see why the bloke who hired him isn't getting the sack, after all this is going to cost Palace in the pocket if they pay his contract off. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court if they argued the toss.

I feel for Palace fans, but their club is a shower and I hope they get relegated.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:09 pm

Will recent loan signing Jairo Riedewald be answerable to Roy? (Looking forward to hearing that one).

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:25 pm

houseboy wrote:I've never been able to understand why Hodgson (and a number of other managers for that) is able to command the 'respect' of decision makers within football, what has he EVER achieved apart from making a Swedish club (I think) a decent side for a year or two? The amount of clout that some of these people carry seems to be over and above any actual ability. England were tragic under him and his exploits in the club market are less than impressive.
Nothing against Palace as a club or their fans but I sincerely hope they go down after this, Parrish is a first class idiot. Thank goodness Dyche didn't wind up with that guy as a boss, what a waste of his talent that would have been. Look at what has happened with us for giving Dyche the time and space he needed, clubs like Palace should be looking in our direction to see how it's done.

He's been a technical expert for Uefa and Fifa for years.
Have a read up and you'll see that.

This is why he's well respected, or one of the reasons anyway.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:45 pm

I wonder how much that has cost them, was FDB On a three year contract....madness

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:48 pm

Always said dyche would have been the ideal almost seamless replacement for Sam allardyce, but that won't happen now. Hodgson? You never know what you'll get from him. If he does a job like at Fulham, great for them.. If he does a job like with rovers or england..

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:59 pm

After listening to the pre match comments from Alan Pardew on Sky "that Turf Moor was not really up to Premier League standard" and "that the dressing rooms at Burnley were like asking players to get changed in a cupboard" I was so glad that we beat them. I couldn't care less that they have sacked De Boer and now asked Roy Hodgson to take over at their deluded little club.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:01 pm

Alan pardew is as arrogant as they come.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:08 pm

"He's been a technical expert for Uefa and Fifa for years.
Have a read up and you'll see that.

This is why he's well respected, or one of the reasons anyway."

What exactly is a 'technical expert'? Technically I'm an expert but I couldn't manage a football club and neither can he. Even if he is a technical expert he has failings in some department, maybe in man-management skills, who knows, but whatever kind of expert he is he certainly can't manage.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:12 pm

Blackrod wrote:If Hodgson loses 4 in a row are they going to sack him ?

Be more like 4 bore-bore draws.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:15 pm

kentonclaret wrote:After listening to the pre match comments from Alan Pardew on Sky "that Turf Moor was not really up to Premier League standard" and "that the dressing rooms at Burnley were like asking players to get changed in a cupboard" I was so glad that we beat them. I couldn't care less that they have sacked De Boer and now asked Roy Hodgson to take over at their deluded little club.

Didn't hear the Pardew comments, but what have they got to do with the current Palace players, management or board.?
Are we - as a club - still responsible for the utter sh*te that we frequently hear from our old friend Owen?

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:27 pm

Alan Pardew, just like Steve Parrish, is Crystal Palace through and through. Read the comments of Steve Parrish on Twitter and they mirror the mindset of Alan Pardew.