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Our most improved player

Post by KRBFC » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:43 pm

Who is our most improved player since winning the Championship title?

Lowton for me, he was getting absolutely torched in the early part of last season, looked miles out of his depth. Now he's like a young Gary Neville. His crossing needs work but defensively solid. I cant remember the last bad game from either fullback, Lowton certainly underrated.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by LoveCurryPies » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:44 pm

Pope. :lol:
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Re: Our most improved player

Post by taio » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:46 pm

Lowton is a good shout and he did better as last season went on. Ward was also better than i would have expected throughtout last season - he was brilliant.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by Paul Waine » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:48 pm

Steven Defour is massively improved on last season - though he still showed his class when he started. But, of course, Defour was signed after we won the Championship - as were several of our very exciting team. Amazing to think how many good players we've added.

James Tarkowski deserves the biggest shout. He couldn't get in the team at centre back (who was it keeping him out?) and now he's producing motm performances.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:49 pm

That's another thing that I like about Dyche & the coaching team; our players actually get better!
Far to often coaches look to sell and upgrade, why not... you know, coach them and make them better players?!
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Re: Our most improved player

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:51 pm

I agree with Paul, but I think a lot of that is down to morale and how he was feeling. He now seems like he's clearly in a better place and happier to be here, which is why we're seeing his true class.

There's only one word to explain that - omelette.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:51 pm

There's quite a few who are looking noticeably better this season.

Can only be good for the rest of the team.
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Re: Our most improved player

Post by Quicknick » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:52 pm

Has any player not got better under Dyche? I'm voting for all of them.
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Re: Our most improved player

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:42 pm

Quicknick wrote:Has any player not got better under Dyche? I'm voting for all of them.
in the current group we still have - only Ulvestad has not developed enough to be considered a potential matchday squad member

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by 1914tyrone » Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:50 pm

Lowton for me. Every part of his game has come on loads
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Re: Our most improved player

Post by superdimitri » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:18 pm

Ward. No question.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by Claretitus » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:22 pm

Again- its a toss up for me, between Lowton and Ward.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by Barry_Chuckle » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:23 pm

All of them.... I just Love this squad :P

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by ayrshireclaret83 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:32 pm

Ward easy

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by KRBFC » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:37 pm

ayrshireclaret83 wrote:Ward easy
I think Ward had a better career before joining Burnley than Lowton which is why I chose Lowton as the most improved. I thought Ward was excellent at Stoke in the relegation season, shame he got injured that season.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:39 pm

Arfield
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Re: Our most improved player

Post by The Enclosure » Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:51 pm

Both full backs and Tarks just gets better and better..

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by NRC » Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:57 pm

I actually think Ashley Barnes. When he's brought on as a substitute he clearly changes the dynamic of the game, and he's taking the "foul or be fouled" objective out of his repertoire

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by IanMcL » Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:28 pm

Every single one of them!

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by boiledclaret » Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:55 pm

I was once a Lowton doubter but that seems like ages ago. :D
Ward has been consistently sound since he got back into the side, two seasons ago.
But big up for Tark so far.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by pushpinpussy » Sun Sep 17, 2017 6:13 pm

Mee defo got better this year all round

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by MDWat » Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:33 pm

Mee or Vokes for me

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by Wile E Coyote » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:06 am

BleedingClaret wrote:Arfield
knew it, someone was bound to post this, ...basically format is slag him off as a championship under achiever, then claim hes progressing because he bangs one in v liverpool. Hes always been good, never credited enough for his contributions.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by starting_11 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:16 am

So you're slagging him off for saying Arfield has improved?
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Re: Our most improved player

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:19 am

What's great about this is so many names mentioned. That's how it should be. It shows we have one hell of a squad.
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Re: Our most improved player

Post by Wile E Coyote » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:02 am

starting_11 wrote:So you're slagging him off for saying Arfield has improved?
course I am, he was an ever present last season as a topic for being slagged off for being useless.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by superdimitri » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:20 am

I agree Lowton has improved but I wouldn't go as far as saying I wouldn't worry about him. He still makes more mistakes than ward and is significantly worse at crossing and heading than ward.

But he's also younger so let's hope his improvement continues.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by BleedingClaret » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:12 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:knew it, someone was bound to post this, ...basically format is slag him off as a championship under achiever, then claim hes progressing because he bangs one in v liverpool. Hes always been good, never credited enough for his contributions.
Not even close to slagging him off, came on a free and competing side by side with 5 to 15 million pound players so from signing on a free as an unwanted reject to scoring at Anfield is immense.
My electing him is more about the fact that he was written off by most as having had his day with us and we needed to move onwards and upwards and since the Blackburn game he's been really good and cemented his place in the team.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by jedi_master » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:15 am

Ward for me has been superb since the moment he signed, I think he wouldn't be mentioned on this thread if it wasn't for the injury he got against Newcastle in Dyche's first PL season, as he was already performing great. For me his form has just been a continuation of that ever since, consistency personified.

Lowton though, he has improved immeasurably I feel on the same player we had in the Championship. I think since about halfway through last season he has begun to look a highly confident player and defensively much sounder than he was. He will never be Trippier going forward, but he has also improved that part of his game too.

I think we have a really solid pare of full backs, and Taylor/Bardsley is good backup too.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by AndrewJB » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:18 am

The team itself. I can't imagine looking at my three daughters and wondering who is the most intelligent, or funniest.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by 4:20 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:34 am

Lowton for me, used to shudder when the ball went in his area, now I don't.

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Re: Our most improved player

Post by MarkGreen » Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:00 am

I am surprised Heaton hasn't been mentioned yet. Yes he has been fantastic for us throughout the years.

But the last 2 seasons he has truly shown that he has improved into game winning goal keeper!

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