New Banksy mural

LAM · Post by **LAM** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:07 pm

https://ibb.co/n1N2Dk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not sure if this link will work, but this is round the corner from my office

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:13 pm

Thanks for that link. They've even vandalized a street sign. Like I said, it's an insult to Basquiat, it could be deemed racist and it's an insult to the police and it's disrespectful and cheapo. 0/10 for that, w@nksy.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:24 pm

Also round the corner from me

Today both murals have been covered with clear perspex in order to protect them

Presumably so that the council can remove them before they get damaged then flog them off

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:56 pm

I've had a look at Basquiat Pstotto, don't quite get it.

Banksy by a mile, but that's art; I don't like Reubens or van Gogh either.

Each to their own.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:56 pm

Bloody hell, there's some pretentious crap on this particular thread/topic.

To me, you either like it, or you don't. If it needs explaining, then it's pointless.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:22 pm

That might be OK for the casual spectator but not when serious wads of money are involved, we're talking £100 million now for living artist's pictures, there's quite a bit of difference between that and a clip round the ear from Sir for a sketch in your rough book at school.

I haven't been to the show yet, but I will have a look. His skull picture is rubbish. banksy is quite clearly establishment, in fact I think it's Damien Hirst INC. especially from what croydon says.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:31 pm

Pstotto wrote:That might be OK for the casual spectator but not when serious wads of money are involved, we're talking £100 million now for living artist's pictures, there's quite a bit of difference between that and a clip round the ear from Sir for a sketch in your rough book at school.

I haven't been to the show yet, but I will have a look. His skull picture is rubbish. banksy is quite clearly establishment, in fact I think it's Damien Hirst INC. especially from what croydon says.

Watched a documentary style film a fee years back called Exit through the Gift Shop which gave a look into graffiti etc ..... See if you can hunt it down as it is a great little watch.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:33 pm

bfccrazy you have to do any link, I'm not.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:38 pm

Pstotto wrote:bfccrazy you have to do any link, I'm not.

http://watchdocumentaries.com/exit-thro ... gift-shop/

There you go pal.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:45 pm

Thanks for linking your story. Too long for a personal watch right now, though, as it's 90 minutes.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:46 pm

It's feature length and I definitely reccomend it whenever you have time. Is an indie documentary that caused quite a stir so I'm guessing it's right up your street.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:48 pm

Yeah, I keep an eye on all visual culture.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Fri Sep 22, 2017 11:18 pm

Liked Banksy since the first time I saw the teddy bear riot painting in Bristol 20 years ago.

Dismaland was interesting, some Hirst pieces there too...

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:17 am

Funkydrummer, if you look at post29 it says 'I 'll let my art do the talking (re-your post 55), so how about a like for that, eh????????

Banksy is a graphic artist of the naughty postcard variety, which is fair enough, but to lord it as great art is just the bathos of the ignorant, like David Shrigley, another of those types. it's just basic art foundation course creativity taking something out of context. It's funny a bit and witty a bit, but it's just silly jokes. I'm not against it per se, it's just being used to bash Fine Art by the media, who want to claim the graphic power of the visual for themselves.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:33 am

All silly jokes. Like those on the West Bank in Jerusalem

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:40 am

Personally love banksys art work. Seen a few in this country. Saw some last week in palestine and think theyre brilliant. Irrespective of whether you agree with the messages they are clever / witty and creative.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:43 am

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:45 am

I'm guessing Banksy has a gig on with his group in the area?

Massive attack isn't it?

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:55 am

I disagree, I think he's agitating without any content, it's just trite. Clever and creative and witty pratdom, I reckon. That doesn't impress me, he's adding to conflict and stirring sh*t, in my view.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:37 pm

Pstotto wrote:Funkydrummer, if you look at post29 it says 'I 'll let my art do the talking (re-your post 55), so how about a like for that, eh????????

Banksy is a graphic artist of the naughty postcard variety, which is fair enough, but to lord it as great art is just the bathos of the ignorant, like David Shrigley, another of those types. it's just basic art foundation course creativity taking something out of context. It's funny a bit and witty a bit, but it's just silly jokes. I'm not against it per se, it's just being used to bash Fine Art by the media, who want to claim the graphic power of the visual for themselves.

I'll give you a like for that, just because I'm on hols in Cyprus and don't give a toss

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 5:39 pm

Lucky you, you just missed spending £40 on a bore draw. That should be enough for a few drinks by the pool.

RMutt · Post by **RMutt** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:18 pm

I'm not sure anyone claims he is a truly great fine artist. He's more in the tradition of Gilray, Cruikshan or even Hogarth. He's a commentator on modern life and politics. Because he is easy to understand and populist his voice his heard and he does make people think about or question the world around them. You cannot really ask more than that, can you? Unless you are looking for an artist who is going to give you the answers?

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:47 pm

always thought banksy would be proud of this:

also, this thread isn't about art, it's about political leanings.

banksy would love it.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:06 pm

I have the army man being searched, the police searching a child and the protester throwing the flowers on my wall.

I like his thought provoking political commentary. Art is personal, I like self explanatory art, I visited the Tate last month and respect different artist/art forms but i prefer it to be simple.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:11 pm

The tate is a load of old shite.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:15 pm

I could sell a banksy drawing and live for years off the proceeds. Strange world.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:26 pm

Mutley... "Oh Tracy Emin and William Blake' Eh????? 'Oh Tracy Emin and Egon Scheile' Eh?????? 'Oh Tracy Emin and Duchamp. What??????? 'Oh Hogarth and Banksy' Eh?????? The media is making the claim in order to destroy Fine Art and keep the power of the visual in the hands of the corporations.

Yeah banksy would love that cretin in robes satanist, they are about on the same prat level.

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:26 pm

any art that threatens rowls or like minded folk is worthwhile.

and pstotto is a bigot.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:26 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:The tate is a load of old shite.

One persons old sh!te..is another persons treasure ...The Tate gets the mind thinking.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:47 pm

You'll be singing Lukaku songs about me next, Tib.

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:52 pm

not quite.

but at least my sensibilities are suitable for human consumption.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:56 pm

... Not from that ridiculous picture of the Dalai Lama zapping Peter Beardsley gratuitously and thinking it a laugh. He was one of our greatest England internationals of the past few decades.

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:58 pm

on that at least we can agree (beardsley's footballing prowess, not my stunningly stunning mural).

edit: also my 'dalai laughin' piece was highly topical but i can't remember the subject.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:05 pm

... What sensibilties of mine are not suitable for human consumption, in your opinion?

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:07 pm

your bed.

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:08 pm

Posting for my mate Okse

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:16 pm

Brexiteers look away now! Tib I presume you are refering to this: https://youtu.be/b1CnnX2mfV0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I have since bought new bed sheets but no I haven't vaccd yet.

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:38 pm

Pstotto wrote:Rowls, I'm actually too ill to work, my newspaper drawings are about all I can manage right now...

Sorry to hear that Pstotto. Hope you get off the spice. All the best.

yTib wrote:any art that threatens rowls or like minded folk is worthwhile.
and pstotto is a bigot.

Hooray! Another name for Bigot Bingo. Cheers yTib.

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:16 pm

I'm too ill to work regardless of whether I take Spice or not, but I think I should retire from the pastime immediately. I feel like my insides are being clawed with a rake. I just pray the damage isn't permanent. It really is smoking poison. Anyone could put anything in it, I'm sure my interior is full of blisters. I've got some medication to help me through (hopefully it will work.)

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:21 pm

By the way, if Okse really did do that before Banksy then maybe there's grounds for copyright infringement.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:19 am

Pstotto wrote:Keith, her work might be OK for those not in the know, but it's not high art worthy of national interest. I doubt she would have even got a third class degree if she'd presented her work for a Fine Art degree show when I was a student in the early 80's.

Dom, just go to the chippy and enjoy the grease stains on the newspaper if you want.

Lubaina Himid wins the Turner Prize.

Nowt like jealousy is there?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:23 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:Maybe you prefer right wing graffiti, like this I saw in Wakefield:

"P***S **** OFF HOME TO INDIA"

That graffiti artist is clearly Telling It Like It Is™, and is a Straight Talker™

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:46 pm

Trolling again, Chewbumbacca?

Lubaina Himid won the Turner Prize to the chimes of Radio One Extra as a political sop for the UK to secure Nigerian oil, that's what all this black power media drive is all about. It's just the same as Hancock paid to do comic sketches dissing the railways in advance of the Beeching cuts.

She was also chosen specifically to destroy my creative practice because I was in contact with the Tate, the summer before she was selected with a view to showing my newspaper art. My work is too politically sensitive because it undermines the power of the graphic media machine, through visualizing something greater. She has done some utterly crap work on newspapers which you can see online maybe (search.) The hope was to cover 'newspaper art' so that it appears 'to have been done already' to deflect from the power of my art revealing a transcendental order/object. They want to have that to beat us up with using a 'media-as-Phobos' strategy to hypnograph us all to sleep. Here is what they don't want you to see:

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Think motorcycle aesthetic.