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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Royboyclaret » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:51 pm

Chester Perry wrote:Like you Roy I am a little sceptical as to the figures - especially as he has not said what data he has used - can't imagine we have records at companies house going back that far - though I do like the fact we are the only founder member with an overall profit - though it looks like we have swapped places with PNE in the last few years as Hemmings helps them to be slightly more competitive than their revenue allows
I'd be more than interested to see how he has sourced those figures, particularly the early years.

One of my prized possessions is a BFC Income & Expenditure account for 1896/97, which includes a Wage bill for the year of £3,001 and Match Receipts of £4,082. This was a relegation season of course but ground advertisement income was a mere £6 which must have been rather disappointing to the Club treasurer.

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:58 pm

Chester Perry wrote:The mind boggles - La Liga has been showing off the new and improved tech it is utilising - all this for 22 guys kicking a ball around - That Magic Money Tree never stops bearing fruit it seems - even if you are not good at the actual game

https://www.soccerex.com/insight/articl ... ports-tech" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That Tech for transfers section is interesting - La Liga Manager.
You'd hope our FA have something like this in place.

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:47 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:That Tech for transfers section is interesting - La Liga Manager.
You'd hope our FA have something like this in place.
Pretty sure we do and of course FIFA is driving a lot of that for transfers

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:20 pm

@SwissRamble investigates whether the presumption that the Big Six are pulling away financially from the rest - as ever the guy is just the master

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/ ... 7046139904" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:25 pm

a simple graphic that helps explain why Championship clubs consider the Premier League the promised land

https://twitter.com/Football_BM/status/ ... 2647841793" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:29 pm

I posted about this quite some time back and now people are starting to wake up to the reality - from the Times

Parachute payments for teams dropping out of Premier League cut for first time - Martyn Ziegler, Chief Sports Reporter
August 20 2019, 12:01am,

Parachute and solidarity payments from the Premier League to Football League clubs have been cut for the first time since the system was introduced.
The 72 EFL clubs have been informed that the payments they will receive for this season and are just over 2 per cent down on last season.

The cut has alarmed some club chairmen, and will hit those lower-league teams in financial peril. The crisis at Bolton Wanderers has led to the club postponing tonight’s Sky Bet League One match against Doncaster Rovers, while Bury are in an even worse position and have not played a fixture this season.

The reason for the drop is that parachute and solidarity payments — money given to clubs not receiving the former — are linked to the value of the Premier League’s domestic TV rights, and they fell by 7.5 per cent for the 2019-2022 period from £5.4 billion to £5 billion. Parachute payments for the three clubs relegated from the Premier League — Cardiff City, Fulham and Huddersfield Town — are £41.8 million, about 2 per cent less than last season. Solidarity payments to the other Championship clubs are £4.5 million (from £4.6 million in 2018-19), £675,000 to League One clubs (£690,000) and £450,000 to League Two clubs (£460,000).

Clubs who were relegated from the Premier League in 2018 will receive £34.2 million as second-year parachute payments, with £15.2 million for those who receive third-year payments.

Andy Holt, the chairman and majority shareholder of the League One side Accrington Stanley, said: “It may not seem that sizeable a cut in our solidarity payments but for a club like ours, with turnover of around £3 million, every penny counts.”
The overall amount that the Premier League is paying in parachute payments has gone up this season, from £105 million to £107 million, because of differences in the number of clu

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:03 pm

It has begun - not an official site but probably an indirect conduit - a call to end the 3pm blackout

https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-fc- ... d-16774285" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:18 pm

A couple of weeks ago I queried Javier Tebas saying that Barca and Real Madrid have never benefitted from State Aid while PSG and Man City have (see post #1866 http://uptheclarets.com/messageboard/vi ... start=1865''" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) well it appears that I missed this - the 2016 rulings by the European Commission that they received State Aid have been overturned on appeal by the EU General court earlier this year - Law in sport has the detail and explains the judgements and the history

https://www.lawinsport.com/content/arti ... -decisions" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:26 pm

given all the recent problems at the Confederation of African Football it is good to see the Blizzard has been able to recall when it was under the Administration of a much more competent individual - in this case you could say he puts most modern administrators to shame

https://www.theblizzard.co.uk/article/g ... inistrator" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:38 pm

Hardly a surprise given their abject performance in recent times but serious journalists and publications are starting to ask questions and investigate deeper in to the EFL

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... ury-faced/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It is noticeable the Vysyble are becoming more and more prominent in the media as their message begins to get through
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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by HieronymousBoschHobs » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:27 am

You should consider penning an article or two Chester, important subject and not widely discussed.

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:14 pm

@AndyhHolt gives more stick to the EFL

https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/11 ... 3693646849" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:30 pm

Tottenham are looking to refinancing their debt from their shiny new stadium which is approaching £650m

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-brita ... KKCN1VB1CI" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:30 pm

Following the revelation that Man City are looking at trialling Facial Recognition Technology (see post #1941 http://uptheclarets.com/messageboard/vi ... start=1900" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) it has emerged that Brondy have become the first club in the world to make use of it - for a very different purpose to that proposed by Man City


https://www.soccerex.com/insight/articl ... ecognition" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:41 pm

Not content with trying to get the European Club Competitions shaped to their will, Juventus are trying to change IAtalian football culture (earlier kick-offs so that viewers in the East don't have to stay up too late

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49412873" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

should be fine in the winter but at this time of year mid-afternoon temperatures in Italy are very high - there is a reason for the later kick off tradition

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Aug 21, 2019 6:53 pm

The independent is suspicious that UEFA are bringing in a European Super League by the back door

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 72466.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:08 pm

Chester Perry wrote:It has begun - not an official site but probably an indirect conduit - a call to end the 3pm blackout

https://www.liverpool.com/liverpool-fc- ... d-16774285" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Any body can watch 3.00pm footy, they just require a stream.
I dont think it would affect attendances much, but I dont think clubs should be paid the same money for a 3.00pm kick off, than those with the inconvenience of having to change dates. I struggle to see what any club would think is a benefit of this.

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Post by Chester Perry » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:09 pm

The African Champions League final was a farce as was the subsequent adjudicatory process by CAF - Law in sport provides an analysis of the handling of if by CAF

https://www.lawinsport.com/content/arti ... ess-at-caf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:10 am

I posted the latest Brand Finance 50 in post #1085 (http://uptheclarets.com/messageboard/vi ... start=1084" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) - here the TIFO podcast talks to it's creators and learns more about the report and the nature of Brand Finance and why Real Madrid have overtaken Man Utd - it properly starts just over 2 mins in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xm8m3M ... e=youtu.be" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:00 pm

Not content with dominating the local football scene at every level and St Bedes school where they place their brightest Academy prospects Man City are now targeting the MEN arena and GMEX as they look to build their own 20000 seater indoor arena

https://www.soccerex.com/insight/articl ... had-campus" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:04 pm

The Bundesliga is considering the option to provide it's own OTT service in international markets where bids fail to meet expectations

https://media.sportbusiness.com/news/bu ... isappoint/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There will be a lot of careful scrutiny of this one
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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:11 pm

The majority shareholder of Cambridge Utd (and lifelong fan) seeks to secure total ownership - as he is underwriting their losses to the tune of £500k a season

https://www.cambridge-united.co.uk/news ... aul-barry/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

he could of course run them to a sustainable budget and not create this commotion

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:29 pm

Everton fan site - The ESK - looks at Everton finances as the real spend on Bramley Moore approaches - some of it is uncomfortable reading for Evertonians


https://theesk.org/2019/08/21/thoughts- ... t-everton/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by AndrewJB » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:33 pm

Just commenting to say I appreciate this thread and the consolidation of all these links and articles.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Aug 22, 2019 6:49 pm

more damning indictments of African Football - this time from Zimbabwe (though given recent history in that country hardly a surprise


https://www.thestandard.co.zw/2019/08/1 ... l-exposed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I didn't bother to report the match fixing scandal in Nigeria last week

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Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Aug 22, 2019 7:43 pm

Chester Perry wrote:Everton fan site - The ESK - looks at Everton finances as the real spend on Bramley Moore approaches - some of it is uncomfortable reading for Evertonians


https://theesk.org/2019/08/21/thoughts- ... t-everton/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Some sobering bedtime reading there for Everton fans. Remarkable that they are forcasting an operating loss of some £95million year ended Jun'19 and a similar figure for the current financial year, and all that with an Income of around £175million per year, some £50million more that ours at Burnley.

Yet another club with a totally unsustainable business model and without player trading and the financial backing of Farhad Moshiri they would be heading in exactly the same direction as Bolton and Bury. When will so many football clubs learn the lesson that spending more than they earn will ultimately lead to disaster.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:06 pm

I thought you would like it Roy

It is amazing that the general consensus is that the Premier League is a profitable league, when so many are currently flying so close to wall, the removal of the salary increase cap this summer is likely to see things get worse - I would not be surprised if this season over half the League are close to or over 70% wages to revenue

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Post by Royboyclaret » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:56 pm

Everton were already at 77% in their last set of accounts to May'18, but nothing compared to Blackburn's figure of 149%, a ratio which still causes serious amusement in my head. I wonder if any other company within Venky's enterprise trades with a Wages figure at one and a half times that of their Income.

But....back to Everton. The real standout stat for me is the Wage increase in their latest accounts compared to the figure to May'17. They're looking at a 40% increase from one year to the next, now that is some increase in anyone's book.

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Post by Chester Perry » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:59 pm

No surprise given all the excess players on their books - never understood what happened to Schneiderlin - he was immense for Southampton, all those managers in such a short space of time was bound to create an excess of players especially when the owner is looking to create a positive atmosphere
- there is going to be a big fire sale - at this rate they won't be allowed to play in UEFA competitions if they qualify

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Post by Chester Perry » Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:27 pm

As two "old Lancashire" clubs face financial turmoil and possible dissolution - a timely podcast about the demise of 2 other Lancashire clubs - from 200% - Accrington & Colne, Touched By The Hand of Burnley

http://twohundredpercent.net/podcast-17 ... f-burnley/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:15 am

If C&N Risk do take over Bury and EFL allow them to play this season in League 1 that will be the fourth club in the English game that is owned by Football Data Analytics specialists


Brighton, Brentford, Notts County, Bury? (The first three used their skills for gambling purposes, C&N Risk started as Analysts in the game) - there is also Stoke who are effectively owned by Bet365, who will use Data Analytics in that Business, but it is not talked about really in connection with the club

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Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:40 am

@AndyhHolt posted this yesterday about how the EFL should work (based on the American sports model)

https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/11 ... 6565764096" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

that combined with a few of is other recommendations through the last few months would make for a much much stronger organisation

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Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:49 am

With all the noise this summer around Bolton and Bury and to a lesser extent Coventry, Notts County and Macclesfield and some strange practices at both Oldham and Reading I have missed the fact that both Doncaster Rovers and Southend Utd (also Ebsfleet) appeared at the high Court this week for winding up orders

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/statu ... 6793729025" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:30 pm

Rory Smith in the New York Times yesterday asks a question that I feel misses the point

Amid Growing Soccer Wealth Gap, Is 92 Teams Too Many?
The financial woes of England’s Bury F.C. raise an uncomfortable question: is it possible for a country to have too many professional teams?

Bury is one of those places that is easily lost. It is — or it was, anyway — a small English town just a little north of Manchester, famous for its market and its mills. The bigger city’s relentless crawl has long since swallowed up Bury, though, claiming first its borders and increasingly its identity in a slow-motion land grab.

There is no discernible line anymore where Bury begins and Manchester finishes. It is on the city’s tram system. It does not have a separate ZIP code — it comes under Bolton’s — and, like Bolton, it is no longer a town in Lancashire, but a part of Greater Manchester. Officially, at least; that is not how the people who live there, the people who have always lived there, see it.

Soccer matters in the places like these, the places that can feel forgotten. Last summer, there were wildfires on the moorland not far from Bolton and Bury. They raged for days, but flickered only briefly in England’s broader consciousness. The point was made, more than once, that had they been burning a couple of hundred miles closer to London, they would have been treated as a national emergency. These are places that are treated like they are no longer there.

A soccer club is, increasingly, the most effective way of pushing back on that perception. It is an expression of self, of identity, a way of distinguishing your town from all of the other towns, of occupying some small space on the national stage. A place in the table, a spot in the F.A. Cup draw, a mention on the radio: it is a reminder that your town still exists, separate, and proud.

Bury has had that for 125 years. Bury F.C. has been in the Football League since 1894. It can lay claim to two F.A. Cups, in 1900 and 1903. All of that may come to an end on Friday. A financial crisis has seen Bury’s first six games of the season canceled. English Football League officials have said there will not be a seventh. Bury will be expelled from its competitions if its current owner, Steve Dale, cannot provide adequate proof of funds to secure its future by midnight Friday.

What has happened to Bury is a cautionary tale of bad ownership and weak governance and how a team’s fans can suffer the consequences. For that last group, it is to be hoped that a resolution is found, that Bury survives.

But this is a song we have all heard before. More than a quarter of the clubs in the E.F.L — the three tiers of English soccer below the Premier League — have faced liquidation petitions or bankruptcy in recent years. Many more exist perilously close to collapse, reliant on player sales or promotion to a higher tier to make the books balance. Financial strife is endemic.

There comes a point, then, when you have to ask whether the game can go on like this. Soccer among the elite is richer than ever, richer than is required, but those on the outside are being left to wither. Perhaps radical revenue redistribution might help. Perhaps — and I have some sympathy with what is a controversial view — larger clubs might partner with smaller ones, taking on costs in exchange for a chance to give young players a place to play.

Or perhaps in the modern landscape, where a club not far from Bury is bankrolled by the riches of a nation state, these teams cannot survive.
There are 92 professional clubs in England’s top four leagues, and more than a dozen more beneath that. Can they all be sustained, given what soccer has become? To someone born and raised on the sanctity of the 92, it feels heretical even to say it. Seeing the suffering of the Bury fans, it feels cruel. Soccer matters in places like these. It is part of the place.

But better, surely, to have a semiprofessional team than no team at all?
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What Accrington, Tranmere and even us have shown is that is is possible to survive as a smaller club, even prosper , just don't bet the ranch, use good fortune to grow yourself but do not commit more than you have

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Hipper » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:25 pm

Only a few years ago Accrington were passing round the buckets and playing friendlies with us to raise money.

We too have been in the mire on at least two occasions (1987 and ITV Digital). At the moment we are well run but that doesn't mean we will always will be.

I thought the idea of Financial Fair Play was to prevent these sorts of situations but what has often happened is that clubs flout the regulations and seem to get away with it - it seems to me a blind eye is turned in some cases.

As for expecting the richer clubs to bail out the poor, the very reason why inequality has increased in football is at the behest of the richer clubs. They formed the Premier League and chose to take most of the money.

Recently the Borehamwood Chairman was complaining about the low number of fans who turn out to watch them and is reconsidering his contributions to the club:

https://www.borehamwoodfootballclub.co. ... a-concern/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:35 pm

fully aware of all that and Borehamwood - which is a classic tale of folly

Financial Fair Play as it has been implemented is really nothing of the sort, it is protectionism for the few that have, what you see in Leagues 1 and 2 with salary restrictions based on turnover should in theory help protect clubs from overspending, but as elsewhere the rules around are so lax that an owner can just make up the shortfall from their own pocket. This is where the Americans are so far ahead of the European game.

and as if to prove my point

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest ... y-18918362" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ignore the publication and listen to the expert

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Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:54 pm

Anyone else notice that since the launch of the Athletic just how much new content is appearing behind paywalls - so much interesting stuff for this thread I just cannot access

this being the very latest from this particular site - https://offthepitch.com/a/i-worry-about ... n-football" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

where from the last few days could add
https://offthepitch.com/a/manchester-ci ... ier-league" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - with content from @KieranMaguire and @DrRob_Wilson
https://offthepitch.com/a/despite-failu ... -big-again" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - with content from Simon Chadwick
https://offthepitch.com/a/it-most-finan ... -relegated" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - with content from Vysyble
https://offthepitch.com/a/manchester-un ... pular-club" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - which was trashed by @sportingintel

there is much more from many more sites too
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Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:58 pm

Speaking about offthepitch.com - this has suddenly become available - from Monday with a slightly different angle on betting sponsorships

https://offthepitch.com/a/most-clubs-do ... rtner-them" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

they accept the dosh though because no one else is offering - as clubs in Serie A are finding out as the betting sponsorship ban comes into force

https://www.sportcal.com/News/Search/127492" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

another one where the content is behind a paywall

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:45 pm

Vysyble have been the centre of much attention this week re their meeting with the EFL in 2017 - such is the level of reporting and in some cases mis-representation they have felt compelled to clarify some points in a blog piece

https://vysyble.com/blog" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:56 pm

A piece on Benfica's Academy, one of the most successful in the world and the source of massive revenues for the club

https://www.soccerex.com/insight/articl ... as-academy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:16 pm

Mentioned earlier today that Serie A has now banned the use of betting companies for shirt sponsorship - the result being three teams have no shirt sponsor - here is an overview of the **** deals that are in place

https://twitter.com/Lu_Class_/status/11 ... 0760654849" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

the comparisons with the Premier League are quite stark, with only 5 of the 20 teams earning the same or more than Burnley

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:28 pm

Intriguing article from @SportingIntel in the Mail about Salford City - apparently he has been convinced that they are not a vanity project and can be sustainable in the future - he is a naturally sceptical sort

https://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sport/fo ... tball.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:51 am

Jonathon Wilson in the Guardian on why 4 of Europe's biggest teams keep striving for a Super League

https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... n-juventus" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by bfcmik » Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:01 pm

Chester Perry wrote:Mentioned earlier today that Serie A has now banned the use of betting companies for shirt sponsorship - the result being three teams have no shirt sponsor - here is an overview of the **** deals that are in place

https://twitter.com/Lu_Class_/status/11 ... 0760654849" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

the comparisons with the Premier League are quite stark, with only 5 of the 20 teams earning the same or more than Burnley
6 receive more than our reported £7.5. The interesting one is Sassuolo at 18 million euros - way more than anyone else and way, way more than a club of their size and history should receive. It is obviously a way around Italy's stringent FFP rules that sees dozens of clubs each season given point deductions for breaches.

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Aug 25, 2019 2:40 pm

bfcmik wrote:6 receive more than our reported £7.5. The interesting one is Sassuolo at 18 million euros - way more than anyone else and way, way more than a club of their size and history should receive. It is obviously a way around Italy's stringent FFP rules that sees dozens of clubs each season given point deductions for breaches.
Didn't include Sassuolo as the 18m includes naming rights for the stadium, training complex,, training kit and shirt sponsorship all from the owners business

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:09 pm

As FFP controls (primarily from UEFA) become of greater concern to the big clubs across Europe (the rewards for Champions League participation especially are very significant as we have seen), clubs have become very careful in meeting these requirements while still being eager to pursue their interests. IT also means that some clubs are more susceptible to approaches for their players because they may be flying close to the FFP limits

The New York Times looks at the growing prevalence of loan-to-buy deals

Play Now, Pay Later: How Loans Became Soccer’s Favored Accounting Tool
Loan-to-buy deals are on the rise, favored because they allow top clubs to comply with Financial Fair Play regulations without losing any of their purchasing power.

By Rory Smith - Published Aug. 24, 2019 - Updated Aug. 25, 2019, 12:28 a.m. ET

On the surface, Paris St.-Germain’s victory against Strasbourg in February 2018 was unremarkable. It was unusual that Strasbourg took an early lead, but it only lasted four minutes. Julian Draxler equalized. Neymar scored, Angel Di Maria scored. P.S.G. led by two goals after 22 minutes and won by 5-2. Strasbourg was just another opponent swatted aside on its parade to the French title.

Yet it was a game of considerable significance: That single victory meant P.S.G. had to pay Monaco — the team that finished second in Ligue 1 that year — $200 million.

The previous summer, not long after it had stunned the world by buying Neymar, P.S.G. had agreed to a deal with Monaco to sign Kylian Mbappé, global soccer’s nascent superstar. The arrangement was not quite as straightforward as the deal for Neymar, in which P.S.G. had just matched the even larger release clause in his contract at Barcelona.

Instead, P.S.G. acquired Mbappé on loan for a season, with a stipulation in the contract that it would pay a set fee — 180 million euros, or roughly $200 million, plus bonuses — the next summer if certain targets were met. One target, in fact: P.S.G. would be compelled to buy Mbappé the moment it was mathematically safe from relegation. It was hardly a tall order. P.S.G. only had to wait until February, and the final whistle against Strasbourg.

P.S.G.’s motivation for structuring the deal in such a way was not difficult to discern: Conscious that buying both Neymar and Mbappé in the same transfer window would, most likely, lead it to breach UEFA’s Financial Fair Play regulations for a second time, it made the loan deal to allow it spread the total cost of its investment in Mbappé across two assessment periods, and avoid the possibility of a heavy fine or, worse, ejection from the Champions League.

The strategy has caught on. As has been the case for the last several years, this summer’s transfer window produced a slew of deals that seemed tailored to help clubs function within the boundaries of Financial Fair Play without losing any of their purchasing power; more and more clubs are moving away from traditional deals and finding new ways to work. This has been yet another summer of “loans with an obligation to buy.”
“Teams are adapting to the new environment, just as they adapted to the Bosman ruling in 1995,” said Omar Chaudhuri, an executive at the sports intelligence agency 21st Club.

Chaudhuri’s figures indicate a significant rise in the number of loans that subsequently became permanent deals across Europe’s big five leagues in recent years. A decade ago, for example, only 10 players in England, Spain, Germany and France were sold to the club where they had spent the previous season on loan.

This summer, that figure stands at 32. Next year will doubtless be similar: Bayern Munich has an option to buy both Philippe Coutinho and Ivan Perisic, both in Bavaria on loan; Tottenham’s deal to sign Giovani Lo Celso from Real Betis was a loan with an obligation to buy (his second in two years), as was Inter Milan’s capture of the Italy midfielder Nicolo Barella from Cagliari, among dozens of others. (Serie A, Chaudhuri noted, is a “different beast,” where loans have always been more prevalent, but if anything the pattern there is even more pronounced: five such deals a decade ago, 35 this year).

Some of those transfers, of course, are simply traditional loans that have worked out well. Others may have been loans with an “option” to buy for a set fee, should the player prove a success. In many cases, though, they follow the Mbappé model: loans which are, in essence, deferred sales. According to one executive, the language is a little misleading: so as not to arouse the suspicions of UEFA’s auditors, the “obligation” has to be dependent on something, but the bar is often set so low that it is impossible not to meet it.

The appeal, in many cases, echoes P.S.G.’s intentions: a deferred purchase enables clubs access to a better quality of player than it might otherwise be able to acquire immediately while complying with F.F.P. It is why, for example, Barcelona’s most recent offer to P.S.G. to reacquire Neymar was not a purchase, but a loan-to-buy deal structured along the lines of Mbappé’s.

There are benefits to these arrangements for the clubs seeking to offload players too, and not only in reducing salary commitments at a time when wages have become so inflated that few clubs outside of Europe’s richest leagues can afford elite salaries. As far as clubs’ accountants are concerned, a guarantee of future income enables teams to forecast more accurately their total revenues for the seasons ahead. “It’s a relatively new concept, but it can be a sign of good practice,” Chaudhuri said.

It is not the only way F.F.P. has started to mould the transfer market, though. “There are so many types of creativity available to the clubs,” said Esteve Calzada, the chief executive of the agency and marketing firm Prime Time Sport, and a former chief marketing officer at Barcelona.
Long-term loans have grown in popularity — Chelsea has sent three strikers to Atlético Madrid on such terms in recent years — while the recompra, a contract clause that has long been a feature of transfers in Spain, in which the selling club has the right to buy back a player for a set fee, has spread across Europe.

Increasingly, teams do not simply consider their own financial projections, but those of their rivals, too. Several Premier League teams, for instance, keep track of the budgets of clubs across the continent, to see which ones might be at risk of running afoul of F.F.P. rules, and therefore might offer less resistance when it comes to cherry-picking their surplus players. The same summer P.S.G. was signing Neymar and Mbappé, for example, Tottenham was taking the fullback Serge Aurier from Paris. A few months later, Lucas Moura followed the same route to Spurs.

A more extreme example is the case of the goalkeepers Jasper Cillessen and Neto. In June, Cillessen moved to Valencia from Barcelona for 35 million euros. The next day, Neto moved from Valencia to Barcelona, for 26 million euros, and 9 million euros in various add-ons. In Calzada’s eyes, there was a “sporting” justification for the moves: Cillessen wanted to play regularly, after two years as Marc Andre Ter Stegen’s backup at Camp Nou; Neto’s relationship with his coach at Valencia had deteriorated, and he relished the chance to play at Barcelona.

The nature of the deals, though — not a straight swap, but two separate sales to make the numbers match — and particularly the curious timing of them, at the end of last season’s F.F.P. accounting period, raised eyebrows. It looked to be a way for both clubs to ensure their books were in order, while not weakening their squads.

To those who monitor soccer’s transfer market, it was inevitable that UEFA’s regulations — and the threat of punishment for not complying — would change the way clubs operated.

“There is now a far more dynamic, proactive regulatory framework,” said Mark Goddard, a former head of FIFA’s Transfer Matching System, the global body that oversees the transfer market. “You have an active F.F.P., and you have an active T.M.S. The clubs then move and shake within that framework.”

This summer — like the last few summers — has been the consequence of that moving and shaking. The clubs are changing to suit their new environment, finding new and innovative ways to spend money, but making sure that, whatever the rules are, they can still get what they want, and who they need, even if they have to wait a little longer than they would like.

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:04 am

@AndyhHolt highlights just why the EFL cannot intervene when they know a club is a bout to head into a financial crises - no matter how much they, the fans, the media and general public would like or expect them to. The members of the EFL (it is a members association) effectively blocked them from doing so

https://twitter.com/AndyhHolt/status/11 ... 8662459392" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

so while Shaun Harvey and Debbie Jevans are the subject of much ire (much of it probably deserved in Harvey's case) it is the owners ( a substantial majority of them, not the rogue few) that should be questioned by fans up and down the country. This reminds me of the FA blazers debacle than ran on for a few decades, the public figures get the blame for the decisions made by the invisible (in public perception) powers that make the decisions.

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:41 am

I have posted about an over populated football calendar before - here TIFO Football picks up on an article from TheAthletic and looks at it's implications

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:27 pm

An informative article on how European Football clubs are increasingly owned by companies that are based in tax havens - initially focussed on Italian clubs bit then widens it's scope - some of the translation may be strange but the information is good

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... le-AC27pue" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:58 pm

the above article links to this report - The Offshore Game - by the Tax Justice Network which was published in April 2015 with it's primary focus being Man City, Bolton, Bournemouth and Spurs - though it looks at 29 other clubs as well

https://www.taxjustice.net/wp-content/u ... Report.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The same organisation did a thorough investigation and report into Rangers - Doing SFA for Fairplay!

https://www.taxjustice.net/wp-content/u ... pdated.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

that report eventually led to charges on Rangers by the SFA in May 2018 - the SFA has still to commence an independent investigation into the matter - which is how Rangers can still compete in the Europa League

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