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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by SonofPog » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:05 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:No
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We just drew 0-0 at home to one of the new boys in the divison, creating just 5 shots all friggin game, and we're giving players, 9s? Cripes what would you give them if we actually scored a goal.

So sorry for not agreeing with the Defour loving today, you'll notice I gave him one of the highest ratings In the team, 6 = average, that's what I thought he was, He made a few good tackles and interceptions, against a team not fame for attacking he did ok at DM, say above average.7
but going forward, to often, he made a pass and failed to follow up, or even doing the basic of passing and then moving into space. As a whole the team going forward was poor, we created next to nothing all game. Therefore, any attacking player got a 5,

Average it out, 6.

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Post by Ric_C » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:12 pm

Babylon, can you put that through a translator? :)
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Post by CaptJohn » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:16 pm

A blind man on a galloping horse could see that 451 was not working today after about 20 minutes. I would have taken off Jeff (Still getting back to fitness IMHO) and brought on Ash. Woodsy won most in the air but had no partner to feed off him.

Pope 7 Clean sheet. What can you say. Has all the physical attributes to be a top keeper.
Lowton 6 Some good overlapping late 2nd half but again no final product.
Mee 6 (-1 for some woeful distribution)
Tarkowski 6 Seemed to be still suffering from the pen miss the other night.
Ward 7 Our best defender today.
Brady 6 Huffed and puffed but no end product.
Defour 7* (He loses a point for that late lapse where he lost possession in his own half and almost lost us the match) Still a class act though.
Cork 7 Battled hard and never gave up.
Arfield 6 Playing with a lot of confidence which is good but tried the odd flick too many today and gave away possession cheaply.
Hendrick 4 In all fairness to Jeff he still isn't 100% fit and it showed.
Wood 7 I thought he led the line well today and perhaps should have won it for us in the 1st half when Ward laid on a great cross.

Dyche 5 Sorrio Sean but it was bloody obvious that it needed a shake up and Jeff should not come out for the 2nd half.

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Post by DuckworthsEA » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:25 pm

taio wrote:Arfield was fine today and certainly better than some others. He did play centrally often but surely under instruction. Hendrick should have come off early for JBG and Arfield could've played off the striker, though I don't think that should've been Wood.
Arfield was dreadful today. He gave the ball away around the box trying to do the same flick constantly. Picked up a ridiculous early booking. I thought he played well against Spurs and Liverpool but today's performance should put him back on the bench. I can see why he might play in away games where we are trying to nick a point but even then we are scraping the barrel. I take it your not a Vokes fan?

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Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:29 pm

Pope 7
Lowton 7
Mee 7
Tarkowski 7
Ward 7
Brady 5
Defour 9
Hendrick 5
Cork 6
Arfield 5
Wood 5

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Post by the_magic_rat » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:31 pm

Pope 6

Lowton 5
Tarkowski 6
Mee 6
Ward 6

Arfield 6
Defour 8
Cork 5
Brady 6

Wood 7
Hendrick 5

Barnes 5

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Post by fungus_the_bogeyman » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:01 pm

Pope 6
Lowton 5
Ward 6
Mee 6
Tarkowski 7
Arfield 7
Hendrick 5
Cork 6
Defour 9* - agree with the gaffer, absolutely outstanding. what a footballer!
Brady 5
Wood 6

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Post by claretspice » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:06 pm

DuckworthsEA wrote:Arfield was dreadful today. He gave the ball away around the box trying to do the same flick constantly. Picked up a ridiculous early booking. I thought he played well against Spurs and Liverpool but today's performance should put him back on the bench. I can see why he might play in away games where we are trying to nick a point but even then we are scraping the barrel. I take it your not a Vokes fan?
What would you rather he'd have done when receiving the ball when surrounded by two men, with not a viable pass to a Burnley player in sight?

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Post by RVclaret » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:29 pm

Pope 7
Lowton 6
Tark 6
Mee 6
Ward 7
Brady 5
Defour 9*
Cork 5
Arfield 5
Hendrick 5
Wood 5

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Post by DuckworthsEA » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:55 pm

claretspice wrote:What would you rather he'd have done when receiving the ball when surrounded by two men, with not a viable pass to a Burnley player in sight?
Not give it away for a start? So if a player is surrounded by just 2 men then it's acceptable to do what he did? The guy was poor today end of

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Post by Top Claret » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:43 pm

Pope 8
Lowton 6
Mee 7
Tark 7
Ward 6
Brady 6
Cork 6
Hendrick 6
Arfield 6
Wood 6

Pope man of match he did not have much to do but I was really impressed with this fella how he dealt with crosses

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Post by taio » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:48 pm

Top Claret wrote:Pope 8
Lowton 6
Mee 7
Tark 7
Ward 6
Brady 6
Cork 6
Hendrick 6
Arfield 6
Wood 6

Pope man of match he did not have much to do but I was really impressed with this fella how he dealt with crosses
Missed the best player on the pitch

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Post by Top Claret » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:52 pm

Yes, Defour was our best midfielder Cork and Hendrick poor. Still thought Pope was outstanding

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Post by taio » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:58 pm

Top Claret wrote:Yes, Defour was our best midfielder Cork and Hendrick poor. Still thought Pope was outstanding
Pope was ok. Cork was ok too. Hendrick was dreadful. Defour was by far our best player.

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Post by Vino blanco » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:00 am

Too negative at home.

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Post by Walton » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:01 am

MDWat wrote:Pope 7
Lowton 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 5
Ward 6
Arfield 5
Cork 6
Defour 8*
Brady 5
Hendrick 4
Wood 4
Same from me, other than I'd give Pope a 6.

I did think before the game that playing Arfield 'wide' yet still having Hendrick in that advanced role would just cause confusion, because Arfield always plays very centrally anyway. As it was, neither of them were good enough and it would have been better with one of them out of the team for Gudmundsson. Arfield would be the one who got the nod for me, with Hendrick still recovering.

The thing is though, neither of them are the crafty, neat player who excels in that hole. That's who we're missing and other than Defour we haven't got a player technically good enough to do that role well. Defour is needed further back though, where he's been excellent in that quarterback style role, always being there to receive a pass and recycle it intelligently.

Cork had his poorest game since rejoining, and the whole team other than Defour were guilty time after time of waiting for the ball to come to them rather than being proactive and dynamic and meeting the ball with a bit of purpose. We were slow in possession, no movement off the ball, and harried and bullied all over the pitch.

Wood showed absolutely nothing today and I'd have been irate if I was Vokes staying on the bench while watching that stinker.

Defour was the best player on the park, just beating Mooy and their defenders, who were completely unfazed by our predictable and easy to play against hoofs.

The one time we did look threatening was when we got bodies up the pitch with some incisive passing, but were ultimately toothless. Why we didn't try that approach with anywhere near that vigour in the 85 other minutes of the game I don't know.

Very, very poor from Dyche and Burnley today. Our failure to buy a pacy striker remotely near fitness is biting us on the arse, and better teams than Huddersfield will relish playing against such a blunt attack.

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Post by ExistentialWanderer » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:39 am

Pope 7
Lowton 6
Mee 6
Tarkowski 7
Ward 6
Brady 5
Defour 8
Cork 6
Arfield 6
Hendrick 4
Wood 5

Thought Defour was excellent. Match was bloody awful to watch though. One of those rare games this season where a team will come to t'Turf and they will be thrilled with a point.

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Post by Roosterbooster » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:41 am

SonofPog wrote:We just drew 0-0 at home to one of the new boys in the divison, creating just 5 shots all friggin game, and we're giving players, 9s? Cripes what would you give them if we actually scored a goal.

So sorry for not agreeing with the Defour loving today, you'll notice I gave him one of the highest ratings In the team, 6 = average, that's what I thought he was, He made a few good tackles and interceptions, against a team not fame for attacking he did ok at DM, say above average.7
but going forward, to often, he made a pass and failed to follow up, or even doing the basic of passing and then moving into space. As a whole the team going forward was poor, we created next to nothing all game. Therefore, any attacking player got a 5,

Average it out, 6.
I'll be blunt. Messi could have played in stead of Defour today and we still wouldn't have scored. Our lack of attacking quality today was nothing to do with Defour. And stating that he made a pass and failed to follow it up or move into space is about as close to proof as you can get that you weren't paying any attention whatsoever. The reason he saw so much of the ball today is because he was ALWAYS finding space. He was on a different level to the rest of them today

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Post by ashtonlongsider » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:42 am

Pope 6
Lowton 5
Tark 6
Mee 7
Ward 6
Brady 6
Defour 9*
Cork 7
Arfield 6
Hendrick 4
Wood 6

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Post by Zenwisdom » Sun Sep 24, 2017 9:50 am

Pope 6 ok
Lowton 4 needs protecting
Ward 4 no pace
Mee 5 distribution ?
Tarks 5 improving
Cork 6 reads game
Defour 8 class act
Arfield stop making excuses not premier footballer 4
Wood 5 isolated
Brady 6 can run with the ball
Hendricks nearly forgot 4
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Post by Joeandy1920 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:17 am

Pope 6
Lowton 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Ward 5
Brady 7
Cork 6
Defour 9
Arfield 5
Hendrick 5
Wood 5

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Post by 4:20 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:25 am

Pope 6
Lowton 6
Mee 6
Tarks 7
Ward 6
Brady 5
Airfield 6
Cork 7
Detour 9
Hendrick 5
Wood 5

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Post by bfc1984 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:00 am

Arfield's time is done for the supporters in my eyes.Did not see anything from the Leeds game,but the 3 games previous he put in some great performances.Then as soon as we have a result what people are not happy with he is made the scapegoat.Because surely apart from defour he was our best player yesterday?He was miles better than the other 3 in midfield!

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Post by claretspice » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:05 am

DuckworthsEA wrote:Not give it away for a start? So if a player is surrounded by just 2 men then it's acceptable to do what he did? The guy was poor today end of
If you're surrounded by two men and don't have a teammate in support, youve got to do something pretty special to keep the ball.

Your criticism of Arfield is that he didn't do something pretty special every time he got the ball in that position. You're blaming him for a team issue that he was unable to single handedly solve.

"End of".

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Post by taio » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:14 am

Arfield wasn't poor at all in my view. As said there was only Defour better. I'd have taken Hendrick off earlier and played Arfield where he was meant to be playing because he was told to player narrow and more centrally anyway. That would have given us better balance.

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Post by strayclaret » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:32 am

Pope 6
Lowton 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Ward 6
Brady 5
Arfield 7
Defour 8
Cork 6
Hendrick 5
Wood 5
Playing clearly to a game plan, it didn't allow us to create hardly anything, Wood was isolated and missed the best chance.

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Post by MACCA » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:44 am

Pope 6
Lowton 6 
Tarkowski 6
Mee 6
Ward 6
Brady 5 
Arfield 6
Defour 8
Cork 6
Hendrick 5 
Wood 5

Quite possibly the poorest game I have watched live for many a year.
Mr Dyche said it all in his post match interviews.
We played not to get beat, we wasn't proactive and didn't try to take the game to them in fear of losing.
Possibly our transfer business or lack of it maybe coming home to roost.
We have had 4 very average ( being polite ) home games where we look like we are quite content in just being in the premier league.

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Post by JellyBaby » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:50 am

I thought Cork was good, generally very good positionally, intercepting and laying it off which seems to be his game. All after the early unwarranted yellow card. Him and D4 understand their roles very well I think

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Post by Dom » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:05 pm

One of the worst games of football that I've ever seen. It was dreadful.

Pope 6 - made a couple of good saves. Slight worry that he won't keep getting away with not keeping hold of the ball when he saves. For now though we're ok.
Lowton 5 - Rare crap performance
Tarkowski 6 - Looked solid enough defensively, not good distribution
Mee 5 - Defensively ok, awful distribution
Ward 6 - Wood should have scored from Wards cross in the first half. Made some poor decisions with the ball
Brady 5 - Offered nothing, ran into dead ends.
Arfield 5 - Kept drifting inside, leaving no out ball for Ward/Lowton
Defour 8* - only glimmer of hope in the game. Looked frustrated with the lack of movement in front of him. Broke up a few of their attacks.
Cork 6 - Was all over the pitch, kept looking for the ball throughout the game.
Hendrick 3 - Less said about this performance the better.
Wood 6 - Given nothing to work with, ball lumped to him, often nobody near him to lay the ball off to. Isolated.

Lack of pace gives us little to work with on the break. It should have been addressed in the summer, again we decided against bringing in someone that fits that mound.
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Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:09 pm

Pope - 6 - not too much to do
Lowton - 6 - disappeared in the second half
Tarkowski and mee - 6 - well defended - awful distribution
Ward - 7 - beat attacking outlet who was always in a wide position
Arfield - 5 - lost the ball often
Defour - 8 - best player on the pitch by a counrty mile
Cork - 6 - worst game for us this season - lost the ball regularly
Hendricks - 6 - a bit behind the game but did make a couple of runs which led to the most exciting moves of the match.
Brady - 6 - energetic but needs to just whip the ball in and shoot rather than the short passing that doesn't work
Wood - 7 - though he worked hard and had a few good touches

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Post by Mala591 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:21 pm

Defour 8
Cork 7
Brady 7
Rest of team 6

We are a very fit and well organised team but we need a couple of players who can create a bit of magic in the final third. Looking forward to seeing Nahki Wells and I think he will make a significant difference.

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Post by claretblue » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:38 pm

Pope 8
Lowton 6
Mee 7
Tark 7
Ward 6
Brady 6
Defour 8 MOM
Cork 6
Hendrick 6
Arfield 6
Wood 6

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Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Sep 24, 2017 12:42 pm

Zenwisdom wrote: Ward 4 no pace
I don't have stats, but I would have thought that Ward was one of our quicker players. Mind you that's not saying a great deal.

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Post by Sgt. Pepper » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:00 pm

Pope 6
Lowton 5
Tarkowski 6
Mee 6
Ward 7
Arfield 6
Cork 6
Defour 7 MOM
Brady 5
Hendrick 4
Wood 6

Barnes 6

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Post by leelad » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:23 pm

Pope 6
Lowton 5
Tarkowski 6
Mee 6
Ward 7
Arfield 6
Cork 6
Defour 8 - best player in Burnley's side by a mile.
Brady 5
Hendrick 5
Wood 6

Barnes 6

Four shots on target in three home games. We lack that cutting edge at the moment and the ability to influence games from the midfield and on the wings. We were crying out for pace on the wings and invention in our play and we got neither. When the ball was in our half we were not breaking forward with purpose and we were trying to be too clever at times in our play. I would like to see a statistic on the number of passes we played backwards from our midfield to our defense. Yes we are difficult to break down and also our shape without the ball is good. But we lack imagination in our forward play. The 4-5-1 system was abandoned in favour of long balls being played from defence to wood who was living off scraps. Which was a shame. A missed opportunity yesterday against a team who apart from mooy did not have much else to offer.

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Post by uwe » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:34 pm

Pope 7. Little to do. Worried me with his slight hesitation on clearances, but that will improve as he settles
Lowton 6. Defensively good, attacking-wise, very little
Mee 7. V solid
Tarkowski 7 V solid with some lovely touches
Ward 6. Same as Lowts. Solid defence, didn't add to our attacking options (apart from one outstanding cross). Did make me wonder what Taylor would offer.....
Brady 7. First half patchy, second half looked the player we hoped we'd signed.
Defour 8. Class act.
Hendrick 4. Anonymous, when he should be pivotal in forward play. Barnes was an improvement.
Cork 6. Tidy but negative at times. Often seems to turn back, maybe sensed it wasn't our day so towards end (when they had a couple of flurries) 'managed' our part in a point-gaining stalemate.
Arfield 5. Nothing worked for him. So many times tried wrong option - turning - when in a central position, so snuffed out.
Wood 7. Won everything, but lack of support from Hendrick and Arfield rendered that effort fruitless. No point knocking it to a v good big man if he hasn't got options to lay it to. Unfortunately missed best chance of match, 6-yd box header.
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Post by HiroshimaClaret » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:36 pm

Pope 7 think we`re OK with this chap

Lowton 6 disappointing from one of consistently better players
Tarkowski 7 absolutely fine
Mee 7 no problems at all
Ward 7 MOM always looked to get forward

Arfield 5 disappointed and fits the rating `below par`
Cork 7 thought he atleast tried to get a hold of the game
Defour 6 not his day like many others
Hendrick 4 apart from a 5 minute spell at the beginning of the second half thought he was anonymous
Brady 6 huff and puff with very little end product

Wood 6 starved (as Gray was on many occasions last season) of service and very little he could do.

Spanish Commentators 9 very entertaining and kept me watching. Loved the "Benjamin Mee"

Of course it`s a point in the Premier League but this was the stuff to cure insomnia. NEVER did we look like breaking down a reasonably well-organised team OR create anything close to a meaningful chance. 4-5-1 might be the cure away from home but certainly does not look to be the answer at home.

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Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:43 pm

Pope 7
Lowton 6
Tarks 7
Mee 6 (struggled in the air against their CF and poor distribution)
Ward 7 (TRIED to inject something into our attack and made several good overlaps, some of which weren't spotted and left him exposed which wasn't his fault)
Defour 8* (tireless and kept defending AND prompting)
Cork 6 (again tireless, but something of a headless chicken yesterday and so many "nearly" passes)
Brady 5 (I really can't decide! He produces flashes of brilliance and does try to take people on, but then messes up by making poor decisions or rubbish passes. Jury still very much out here)
Hendrick 6
Arfield 7 (Overall had a good game and looked the most likely to make something happen or get us a goal, but having found time and space in and around the box he tried too many fancy flicks and killer passes and blew it)
Wood 6 (couldn't hold the ball up, barely posed any threat and looked very isolated)

JBG 6
Barnes 6

After 60 minutes I was more than happy to take the 0-0 because we had totally run out of what few ideas we had and I just felt Uddersfeeled would go and nick one at some stage and literally steal the points. They remind me of us as they're organised, work very hard and are collectively committed to the game plan and the cause and we didn't have anything like the nouse to rattle them. It didn't surprise anyone that after 4-4-2 with Vokes and Wood together didn't really work against Palace (despite the win) SD went 4-5-1 and although this gave us control of large parts of the game it meant we posed virtually no threat to their goal. So many of our players made poor decisions or played useless passes and at times it looked like they'd never played together before. Just for a change Barnes made no impact and surely Vokes should have had 10/15 minutes for Wood who imo struggled throughout. I wasn't downhearted yesterday as we played poorly, but took a point, but I will be concerned if it becomes a trend as we definitely need a spark at home where teams are sussing us out.

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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Sep 24, 2017 11:14 pm

Pope 7
Lowton 7
Tarkowski 7
Mee 7
Ward 5
Brady 7
Arfield 7
Defour 9 mom
Cork 6
Hendrick 4
Wood 7

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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by Jase_H » Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:31 am

Pope 7
Lowton 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 6
Ward 7
Brady 6
Cork 6
Defour *8*
Arfield 5
Hendrick 5
Wood 5

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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:59 am

claretspice wrote:What would you rather he'd have done when receiving the ball when surrounded by two men, with not a viable pass to a Burnley player in sight?
I don't think it's what he tried to do that's the problem. More the fact he tried it at least 6 times and didn't pull it off once. To rub salt into the wound an Uddersfield player tried the same move in the second half and pulled it off perfectly.
Pass and move, finding space should be the mantra of all footballers, we just never did it Saturday, and when the opposition are running around twice as hard as you then finding space is always going to be difficult. It's the players that have to take the responsibility though.

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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by UpTheBeehole » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:18 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:I don't think it's what he tried to do that's the problem. More the fact he tried it at least 6 times and didn't pull it off once. To rub salt into the wound an Uddersfield player tried the same move in the second half and pulled it off perfectly.
Pass and move, finding space should be the mantra of all footballers, we just never did it Saturday, and when the opposition are running around twice as hard as you then finding space is always going to be difficult. It's the players that have to take the responsibility though.

Arfield would have been much better served controlling these passes and drawing a foul from the 2 players closing him down. Even better, he could stick the arse in and hold the ball up for an advancing midfielder/winger. The flicks he tried did not work, as the only other player up there was Wood, who doesn't seem to be on many players' wavelengths just yet.

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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by IAmAClaret » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:42 am

Pope 7
Lowton 6
Tarkowski 6
Mee 7
Ward 6
Brady 6
Cork 7
Defour 8
Hendrick 4
Arfield 4
Wood 6

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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by Jakubs Tash » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:04 am

Pope 7

Lowton 6
Tarkowski 7
Mee 6
Ward 7

Brady 6
Defour 8
Cork 7
Hendrick 5
Arfield 5

Wood 5

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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by MDWat » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:06 am

When someone writes it wasn't Defour's day, you know to give up and stop reading the post. Jeez.

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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by KRBFC » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:16 am

Pope 6 - nothing to do.
Ward 5 - his worst game for a while
Mee 6 - defended well, distribution awful.
Tark 6 - same as Mee.
Lowton 5 - offered nothing offensively.
Arfield 3 - just awful
Defour 9 - best player on the pitch, him and Mooy a joy to watch.
Cork 6 - solid enough
Hendrick 3 - offered nowt, alot of ability, clearly not up to full speed yet.
Brady 6 - constantly tried to provide service to Wood but an impossible task with 8 Burnley players behind the ball at all times.
Wood 7 - worked hard, good movement, given no support and hoofed balls up against multiple giant defenders.

Dyche 2 - wouldn't have scored if we were still playing now and it was obvious which way it was heading after 30 minutes, the Barnes sub made us even worse, Vokes should've got a game.

Fans 4 - atmosphere was awful as usual, you cant really blame the fans though when the football is just that boring.

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Post by claretspice » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:20 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Arfield would have been much better served controlling these passes and drawing a foul from the 2 players closing him down. Even better, he could stick the arse in and hold the ball up for an advancing midfielder/winger. The flicks he tried did not work, as the only other player up there was Wood, who doesn't seem to be on many players' wavelengths just yet.
I think it was more like 3 times than the 6 someone suggested, but leaving that aside i agree it was frustrating. But I come back to the point - what else was on? You suggest holding the ball up, but with 2 or 3 players in close attendance, thats not easy. You suggest laying the ball off to a runner - which sounds good but requires there to be runners (there often weren't) and in any event if those runners will themselves run into heavy traffic it doesn't exactly improve the end result. Perhaps he could have laid it back into midfield, but that would just have slowed down our already predictable build up and we've already had one thread since the game complaining our wingers play backwards too much. This thread is now criticising Arfield for trying to inject some pace into our moves and to go forwards.

You mention free kicks and i take that point although Hudds were very good at playing to a ref willing to let plenty go.

In short i think its easy to suggest Arfield should have done things differently but i'd prefer to applaud his willingness to keep trying to be incisive. The fact he had noone wide to lay it to and that our build up was ponderous, laboured, narrow and allowed Hudds to congest the space around the ball is symptomatic of team failings ww need to improve, not particularly Arfield's.

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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by UpTheBeehole » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:28 am

He had no one to lay it wide to because HE was meant to be the width. Instead he was usually around the D, which is where Wood (being the striker) or Hendrick (being the attacking central mid) should have been. It was all wrong, but it was clearly Dyche's game plan. It was just a really bad game plan.
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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by claretspice » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:34 am

Completely agree. I don't think we can blame Arfield for that though. It was just a game plan that didn't work.

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Re: Burnley v Huddersfield - Player Ratings

Post by IanMcL » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:22 pm

I am still away, so for speed, all 6 except Cork 7 ward 7 Arfield 7 and Defour 8.

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