Which EU laws would you change or remove?
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Which EU laws would you change or remove?
I actually believe the EU made us change many laws to create a better, fairer society. However, there were some laws that I would like to see removed as soon as we leave the EU.
I will start with the requirement for all websites to have statements about Cookie usage. A complete waste of time!
Your suggestions?
I will start with the requirement for all websites to have statements about Cookie usage. A complete waste of time!
Your suggestions?
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
This could be a classic, Just let them finish on the Emma Dent Coad thread and they'll be over !
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
The new limit to vacuum power one seems pretty pointless.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Could be a classic one for "you do know that isn't a real rule don't you?"
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
I've got my popcorn ready for the onslaught of ignorance.
However I'd love to be disappointed and find some well thought out, insightful posts.
However I'd love to be disappointed and find some well thought out, insightful posts.
Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
All of them.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
And so it begins
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
£2 billion of subsidies for 250,000 UK farmers and landowners, we believe in free markets don't we?
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
That one about bananas
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Now that one is realWinstonswhite wrote:That one about bananas
Well according to this anyway
https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstal ... b1ed126fc9
I'm not arsed about getting rid of it though.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
I think you will find it was made up by Boris along with many other things.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
So we've got the Bananas rule.
It does seem a bit extreme to wreck the economy and split the country over if I'm being perfectly honest.
It does seem a bit extreme to wreck the economy and split the country over if I'm being perfectly honest.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
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Re. bananas and vacuum cleaners.
Re. bananas and vacuum cleaners.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
A great EU law that I really hope we can retain the benefits of post-Brexit is the one where mobile phone users don't incur data roaming charges in the EU any more. It made my recent trip to Prague a lot better without having to scrabble around for Wi-Fi. Bloody EU, stopping exploitative service providers from taking my pants down when I'm abroad!!!
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
I know its not a law as such but the European Parliament decamping to Strasbourg every month is very silly. Costs millions and was only agreed to to stop De Gaulle getting his bottom lip out.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
It's not the laws as such that need changing, we are going to take them all on, at least for now and I suspect forever. However, the con is that a trading union is bit by bit being changed into political and economic union. If that is what other countries want, then fine, but I have no doubt that the people of this country don't want it. So we are best out and letting them get on with it. We can still be friends and partners in many ways, we don't need to be one country, dominated by the German/French axis. Indeed, someone that has only 1/3 of the vote in her own country and much further away from having a majority than our PM, is all but leader of Europe. By that I mean nothing gets agreed without her approval. It is very undemocratic actually.
I think it will end in a right mess for the likes of Greece when the never ending bail outs etc have to stop. As as been said many times, the economies of northern, southern and eastern Europe are too diverse for it to work
People need to stop undermining May and Davis and get behind them to get the best deal possible to implement what the peole voted for.
I think it will end in a right mess for the likes of Greece when the never ending bail outs etc have to stop. As as been said many times, the economies of northern, southern and eastern Europe are too diverse for it to work
People need to stop undermining May and Davis and get behind them to get the best deal possible to implement what the peole voted for.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
So in answer to the question and to keep on topic there arent any laws you would change or removesummitclaret wrote:It's not the laws as such that need changing, we are going to take them all on, at least for now and I suspect forever. However, the con is that a trading union is bit by bit being changed into political and economic union. If that is what other countries want, then fine, but I have no doubt that the people of this country don't want it. So we are best out and letting them get on with it. We can still be friends and partners in many ways, we don't need to be one country, dominated by the German/French axis. Indeed, someone that has only 1/3 of the vote in her own country and much further away from having a majority than our PM, is all but leader of Europe. By that I mean nothing gets agreed without her approval. It is very undemocratic actually.
I think it will end in a right mess for the likes of Greece when the never ending bail outs etc have to stop. As as been said many times, the economies of northern, southern and eastern Europe are too diverse for it to work
People need to stop undermining May and Davis and get behind them to get the best deal possible to implement what the peole voted for.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Its detail and the key issue is the big picture. I am more than happy for our Parliament to deal with the EU laws as and when needed in the future. At least we won't have the likes of Juncker pushing their federal agenda on us.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
So thats still a no for changing or removing laws. It really is a simple questionsummitclaret wrote:Its detail and the key issue is the big picture. I am more than happy for our Parliament to deal with the EU laws as and when needed in the future. At least we won't have the likes of Juncker pushing their federal agenda on us.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Its the wrong question as far as I am concerned and the Government agrees. We don't need to waste energy on it.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Can you post all the laws so I can give it my full attention and proper judgement?
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Nobody voted to leave because they didn't like a specific law...
So your thinly veiled sneer at Brexiters not knowing why they voted to leave is irrelevant.
So your thinly veiled sneer at Brexiters not knowing why they voted to leave is irrelevant.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Facts and stuff are irrelevant when you have a blue passport and controls on immigration
Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
That law is the only reason that lots of people voted remain.SammyBoy wrote:A great EU law that I really hope we can retain the benefits of post-Brexit is the one where mobile phone users don't incur data roaming charges in the EU any more. It made my recent trip to Prague a lot better without having to scrabble around for Wi-Fi. Bloody EU, stopping exploitative service providers from taking my pants down when I'm abroad!!!
No way will they let us keep it
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
"That law is the only reason that lots of people voted remain."
Evidence, please. I've not heard that claim before.
Evidence, please. I've not heard that claim before.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
I'm glad you asked that, I can't tell if it was sarcasm. I had no idea it was even on the agenda, I only found out when it actually came into effect a few months ago - though I have since discovered the service providers had a few years notice.evensteadiereddie wrote:"That law is the only reason that lots of people voted remain."
Evidence, please. I've not heard that claim before.
Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
European Mortgage Credit Directive
You maintain and pay your mortgage at 5% but you can’t switch to a mortgage at 3% due to ‘affordability’
You maintain and pay your mortgage at 5% but you can’t switch to a mortgage at 3% due to ‘affordability’
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Immediately?
None?
I'd simply impose UK sovereignty as absolute and then it's down to Parliament to decide based upon the election that are the result of the will of the British people.
There's plenty that will change but change should happen naturally, organically. The EU didn't take over our legislature in an invasion; it took over like creeping vines and Japanese Knot weed. There's no need for a bonfire. Just cut away at the plant until it's where we want it. If we want it uprooted entirely that's our choice. If we want to prune it but keep it that's our choice too.
The rule of democracy from a sovereign UK parliament will re-impose itself naturally.
None?
I'd simply impose UK sovereignty as absolute and then it's down to Parliament to decide based upon the election that are the result of the will of the British people.
There's plenty that will change but change should happen naturally, organically. The EU didn't take over our legislature in an invasion; it took over like creeping vines and Japanese Knot weed. There's no need for a bonfire. Just cut away at the plant until it's where we want it. If we want it uprooted entirely that's our choice. If we want to prune it but keep it that's our choice too.
The rule of democracy from a sovereign UK parliament will re-impose itself naturally.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Hmmm?Lancasterclaret wrote:Facts and stuff are irrelevant when you have a blue passport and controls on immigration
The blue passport thing is a massive red herring.
But the idea that a sovereign state should be able to exercise sovereignty over its borders is the principal reason why Leave won the referendum.
If you conflate the two ideas (one almost purely symbolic and peripheral, the other an obvious issue of national sovereignty and a clear priority for the working classes) then clearly you do not understand at least one of them.
Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
30 posts in and the only real answer we have so far is subsidies to farmers, plus loads of waffle about how the OP is asking the wrong question and how "sovereignty" will automatically change the bad laws and keep the good ones somehow.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
I'm being as serious as ClaretMoffit and Damo are Rowls.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
The is a brave selection.If it be your will wrote:Farming subsidies tops the list for me, but I was beaten to it. I can barely imagine a more absurd transfer of wealth from poor to rich than this.
Second place: rules against state aid to industry desperately need an overhaul. (Most of the other EU stuff should be kept, though)
This tears me apart.
I'm all for providing support to help preserve the countryside but how we do this is the important thing. As Boris Johnson said in his article the other day, it's not the amount of money which is necessarily the most important factor; it's the fact that we take back control over the issue.
There are plenty of pros and plenty of cons to subsidizing farming as heavily as we do. At least we can have them as a sovereign nation now rather than be held to account by French farmers
As an aside, Brexit offers one of the brightest opportunities to African farmers since the creation of the WTO and the imposition of WTO tariffs. If we can make trade agreement outside the EU (which we can if we leave the EU properly) then we could -as a nation- single-handedly lift two or three African countries out of poverty simply by purchasing their agricultural produce.
Obviously there are lots of caveats. The countries would need to be open to free trade, free from corruption (ha!) and have a sturdy and steady rule of law but the UK could easily lift several African countries out of poverty by buying grain, fruit, vegetables etc.
It would require us to stop subsidizing our own farmers at the same time which would cause a fair bit of economic harm to farmers in our own country (but provide cheaper food for us non-farmer consumers, ie. "shoppers") and it could potentially damage our own environment but it would, in one swell foop, cut the useless, immoral and indefensible "aid" industry of corruption into pieces. We simply would not need international aid if we could trade fully and freely with Africa on a fair basis.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
"That law is the only reason that lots of people voted remain."
I can't find any evidence to back that up. What was the source of that info, Damo ?
I can't find any evidence to back that up. What was the source of that info, Damo ?
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Well yes but when you conflate a frivolous issue with a key factor you invite that kind of comment.Lancasterclaret wrote:I'm being as serious as ClaretMoffit and Damo are Rowls.
But who's to know you're being serious?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Like that time you said you weren't accusing me of racism - how are we to know?
It's tricky, I know.
BTW, you've inadvertently shown why NRC is correct to use the vocative comma
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
What a silly mis-reading of the ideas put forward. Imbecilic, even.Greenmile wrote:30 posts in and the only real answer we have so far is subsidies to farmers, plus loads of waffle about how the OP is asking the wrong question and how "sovereignty" will automatically change the bad laws and keep the good ones somehow.
Sovereignty won't put anything "right". It simply is what it defines itself as - the rule of law by a common people united by nationhood.
The EU can never have that.
What sovereignty means (without the idiotic, superfluous inverted commas) is that we the united people of this country have a chance to change the governance of our nation state by means of participating in our democratic process.
We have democracy because we have demos.
Look it up:
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
I would remove the ban on chrome plating because some of the chemicals usedcare dangerous. I went to a conference a few years ago and a speaker from Rolls Royce said they were forced to close a British factory and move production to the USA.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
*Sigh*
You are not a racist*
You are, however a massive dick on here and I have no idea why.
* the fact I never accused you of being one is kinda pointless to you I notice. You think I called you one, and nothing I say will change your opinion on anything, even when you are wrong. Thats why you are a dick.**
**Sorry
You are not a racist*
You are, however a massive dick on here and I have no idea why.
* the fact I never accused you of being one is kinda pointless to you I notice. You think I called you one, and nothing I say will change your opinion on anything, even when you are wrong. Thats why you are a dick.**
**Sorry
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
There's probably plenty of this stuff to be found.bfcjg wrote:I would remove the ban on chrome plating because some of the chemicals usedcare dangerous. I went to a conference a few years ago and a speaker from Rolls Royce said they were forced to close a British factory and move production to the USA.
On the other hand there's probably plenty of industries lobbying the UK Parliament now to overturn legislation we'd be better off keeping.
It's not a case of burning statute and regulations - it's a case of looking what is sensible and justified.
For example, the ban on "chlorinated chicken" that caused such a fuss a few weeks agp - the EU's own food safety agency says the practice is perfectly safe. But the EU has banned it under pressure from EU farmers.
We may (or may not) want meat to have been disinfected before we eat it. But at least we now have a much more direct involvement in the democratic process and can vote for political parties who can actually affect a change in the law if we so wish.*
We can't do that until Brexit is enacted.
*Once Brexit happens.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
I for one can't wait for my chlorinated chicken and thank god we voted to allow me to eat it.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
This thread is around 15 months too late.
Up the clarets message board - just like Thursday 23rd of June, never happened!
Up the clarets message board - just like Thursday 23rd of June, never happened!
Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Irrelevant when the USA will shaft us anyway (The Boeing/Bombardier fiasco)Rowls wrote:There's probably plenty of this stuff to be found.
On the other hand there's probably plenty of industries lobbying the UK Parliament now to overturn legislation we'd be better off keeping.
It's not a case of burning statute and regulations - it's a case of looking what is sensible and justified.
For example, the ban on "chlorinated chicken" that caused such a fuss a few weeks agp - the EU's own food safety agency says the practice is perfectly safe. But the EU has banned it under pressure from EU farmers.
We may (or may not) want meat to have been disinfected before we eat it. But at least we now have a much more direct involvement in the democratic process and can vote for political parties who can actually affect a change in the law if we so wish.*
We can't do that until Brexit is enacted.
*Once Brexit happens.
Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
I did a quick poll amongst my remain voting friends Eddie.evensteadiereddie wrote:"That law is the only reason that lots of people voted remain."
I can't find any evidence to back that up. What was the source of that info, Damo ?
Most of them put their hands up for cheap roaming charges when I asked them what their main reason for voting that way was
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Equal treatment for football hooligan dimwits.
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I think it's going to affect Canada a bit more than us, but whatever... no use talking to the wall, is there?!Spijed wrote:Irrelevant when the USA will shaft us anyway (The Boeing/Bombardier fiasco)
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Do you know ANYTHING about Bombardier or C series aircraft? Nope...
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
...but don't let that stop your diatribe with the interim tariff and Brexit in general.
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
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Re: Which EU laws would you change or remove?
Add me to that list as well
After getting flooded out by Storm Desmond, i'm now massively in favour of allowing the natural vegetation on the hillsides above the river valleys.
After getting flooded out by Storm Desmond, i'm now massively in favour of allowing the natural vegetation on the hillsides above the river valleys.