The Daily Mail - Have they learned nothing?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:03 am

5 years ago they outed an Accrington teacher as transexual and it led to her killing herself. Now they've outed a teenage Conservative activist because he was on a night out in Manchester and for some reason that's something the public should know about.

What the ******* **** is wrong with these people? And what the **** is wrong with the people who continue to buy this evil rag?

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/10/06/th ... -his-will/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Joe14 · Post by **Joe14** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:07 am

Still a section of society who are 20 years behind the rest of us. They still read the daily mail. While people still buy they still print. They've even got an App for the more younger racist/homophobe etc.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:12 am

My mum buys it...she insists on it.

She's in her 90's now, and her mind , sadly has been deteriorating over the last 10 years. She now sees benefit scroungers, rampaging immigrants and drug dealers behind every door and a cancer threat in every tea bag.

Back in the 60's and 70's she was a broad minded political activist doing her best to achieve any kind of change that might benefit ordinary or less privileged folk..well liked and respected in local parts.

Sad...but I guess addle brained oldsters make up a big percentage of that rag's readership.

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:16 am

Have they learnt anything. That sounds better.

ClaretDiver · Post by **ClaretDiver** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:16 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:5 years ago they outed an Accrington teacher as transexual and it led to her killing herself. Now they've outed a teenage Conservative activist because he was on a night out in Manchester and for some reason that's something the public should know about.

What the ******* **** is wrong with these people? And what the **** is wrong with the people who continue to buy this evil rag?

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/10/06/th ... -his-will/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wow just read that article....do the ashats at The Daily Fail realise they are ruining lives??

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:24 am

ClaretDiver wrote:Wow just read that article....do the ashats at The Daily Fail realise they are ruining lives??

Of course. But they wouldn't bat an eye lid if they indirectly killed 10 people, if it meant their circulation went up.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:27 am

My mum still reads it too, I can’t stand it! However, if you don’t want people to know something about you you’re probably better off not demonstrating it in a public place where it’s obvious to everyone that the vultures will be present.

If I were having an affair behind my wife’s back I wouldn’t walk down the Main Street of my town holding hands with my gf, it’s clear what would happen.

Edit to emphasise that I’m not defending that sh1te rag, just that the young lad in question was naive to say the least.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:30 am

The article says more about his family,friends and town he lives in to be fair Imo.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:35 am

Time to man up(apologies) and make a call on Mr. Mark Duell and Kate Ferguson. They put their names to this piece of ****. They need teaching that this isn't right.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:08 am

Papers trying to make sensational provocative stories is nothing new. Meanwhile there is real evil going on in the world.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:12 am

I'm sure this thread title will be just too tempting for Lancaster Claret

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:30 am

He held out longer than you did, and you're the Mail's target demo.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:53 am

It's not all bad.. Robin Goodfellow is quite a good tipster..

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:54 am

Love the Daily Mail.

It provides you with a view to everything that's being withheld by the BBC.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:55 am

starting_11 wrote:Love the Daily Mail.

It provides you with a view to everything that's being withheld by the BBC.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:56 am

Oh wait. You were serious.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:07 am

Yes, why?

I like a view that's not dictated by the alt-left, communist, LGBTUVWXYZ, feminist, eco types.

...or is having a differing view to you and your kind not allowed?

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:07 am

The so called newspaper is not even fit to be nailed to a backyard privy door for personal hygiene usage.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:09 am

starting_11 wrote:Yes, why?

I like a view that's not dictated by the alt-left, communist, LGBTUVWXYZ, feminist, eco types.

...or is having a differing view to you and your kind not allowed?

No, it's allowed. But i get to call you names when the view is as retarded as yours.

Isn't it wierd how you peoople keep complaining that when people like me criticise you for your views you react as if it's some kind of infringement on your rights? Rather snowflakey, don't you think?

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:10 am

But that would be bullying.

Are you a bully? An INTERNET bully?

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:12 am

Didn't complain. I asked you a question.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:12 am

starting_11 wrote:But that would be bullying.

Are you a bully? An INTERNET bully?

If you feel bullied because someone on the internet disagrees with you then i suppose you could write a complaint to the forum admins.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:13 am

I didn't say I felt bullied.

I said if you called people names because of who they are, then you're a bully.

... that's twice now.

Can you read it properly next time?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:14 am

starting_11 wrote:Yes, why?

...or is having a differing view to you and your kind not allowed?

'You and your kind' says a lot.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:17 am

starting_11 wrote:Yes, why?

I like a view that's not dictated by the alt-left, communist, LGBTUVWXYZ, feminist, eco types.

...or is having a differing view to you and your kind not allowed?

So you like a newspaper that once supported Nazis and more recently was against homosexuality?

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:18 am

Yes, his kind.

The kind of people who post endlessly boring, receptive, left wing drivel on every single thread on here.

The kind of people who over politicise every single thing they come across either on the internet or in the real world? The people who wouldn't be able enter into a thread about bread making without finding something to copy and paste from a trendy thread on Reddit about how evil and racist it is to make Sourdough?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:19 am

starting_11 wrote:I didn't say I felt bullied.

I said if you called people names because of who they are, then you're a bully.

... that's twice now.

Can you read it properly next time?

Where did i suggest calling people names based on who they are? Isn't that something you are prone to doing? Like when you mocked LGBTQ+ people a few posts ago? What was it you called them... "LGBTUVWXYZ"?

This is an example of why i call people like you "idiots". If you think that's bullying then, awwww. Bless. But that isn't calling you a name because of who you are, that's calling you a name based on how you choose to act and treat others.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:20 am

The Left's mantra-

"You're absolutely entitled to have my opinion"....

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:20 am

The BBC has definitely showed a leftist and PC agenda in recent years. The Mail does not get everything right like many papers but it does have a strong voice on crime and immigration usually to howls of derision from the leftists.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:21 am

Have you got a link to the mail article?
I read the one you posted, as the mail had printed some photographs of some people kissing openly in a street.
If your kissing openly in a street, you have hardly been outed have you?
I could be reading it wrong mind, hence why I'd like to see the article before making a judgement

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:22 am

Mocking acronyms upsets you?

There are plenty more I find ridiculous, ones that are too long or have so many words that don't actually appear in the acronym.

You'd best don your armour and go fight for the cause of acronyms!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:23 am

Damo wrote:Have you got a link to the mail article?
I read the one you posted, as the mail had printed some photographs of some people kissing openly in a street.
If your kissing openly in a street, you have hardly been outed have you?
I could be reading it wrong mind, hence why I'd like to see the article before making a judgement

Yeah, OK. So the victim is at fault here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -bars.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:24 am

...can't even mock a ******* acronym without left wingers getting upset about it!

I'd call you irrational but that would make you go crazy!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:24 am

starting_11 wrote:Yes, his kind.

The kind of people who post endlessly boring, receptive, left wing drivel on every single thread on here.

The kind of people who over politicise every single thing they come across either on the internet or in the real world? The people who wouldn't be able enter into a thread about bread making without finding something to copy and paste from a trendy thread on Reddit about how evil and racist it is to make Sourdough?

A fine fine post. Id end it there. You're only lining yourself up, to be, inevitably, labled an "idiot" by this message boards resident, attention seeking, troll.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:24 am

Why do you think i'm doing it?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:25 am

starting_11 wrote:Mocking acronyms upsets you?

There are plenty more I find ridiculous, ones that are too long or have so many words that don't actually appear in the acronym.

You'd best don your armour and go fight for the cause of acronyms!

You were referring to people, not acronyms. And no, i wasn't offended. Believe it or not very little offends me.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:27 am

Blackrod wrote:The BBC has definitely showed a leftist and PC agenda in recent years. The Mail does not get everything right like many papers but it does have a strong voice on crime and immigration usually to howls of derision from the leftists.

And yet the Mail has never once criticised far right groups, especially the EDL, Britain First etc.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:28 am

The article looks to me as though it is focusing on the revellers and partygoing after the conference. As usual the PC brigade are looking to be offended. If you don't want any chance of being photographed kissing in public then don't do it. It's not rocket science.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:28 am

Spijed wrote:And yet the Mail has never once criticised far right groups, especially the EDL, Britain First etc.

Funnily enough neither have racists. I wonder why.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:29 am

Imploding Turtle wrote: Yeah, OK. So the victim is at fault here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -bars.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

IF he didn't want people to know the last place you'd be kissing someone of the same gender in public would be where your parties conference is...

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:29 am

What makes a racist?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:32 am

Blackrod wrote:The article looks to me as though it is focusing on the revellers and partygoing after the conference. As usual the PC brigade are looking to be offended. If you don't want any chance of being photographed kissing in public then don't do it. It's not rocket science.

If you don't want to receive hate mail from assholes then don't be a gay woman running for Labour leadership. See how stupid your opinion is when applied to other things?

I'm sure you're able to point out what the journalistic value of the Mail article was.

WadingInDeeper · Post by **WadingInDeeper** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:34 am

The artical reads like one typical of some of the current generations where someone else is always to blame, their own actions never contribute.

Kissing and holding hands in public, in this age of cctv, camera phones and, at a part conference with tv, photographers and journalists there is a good chance your actions will be seen.

Poor artical with no form of investigation to the story. He has been harassed by messages, but hasn't read them, they may all be supportive messages.

Dad won't speak to him, but no one mentions why just leave us to make assumptions. I think a lot of parents would be upset if their children felt they couldn't talk to them and find out something like this from a paper.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:34 am

Spijed wrote:And yet the Mail has never once criticised far right groups, especially the EDL, Britain First etc.

On plenty of occasions. There was an article by Tom Leonard on 14/08/17 as an example that does not put far right groups on America in a good light at all. It doesn't criticise the moderate right which is what you can't accept.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:35 am

starting_11 wrote:What makes a racist?

Having a different opinion to Charlie..

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:36 am

Imploding Turtle wrote: Yeah, OK. So the victim is at fault here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -bars.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Has the offending picture been deleted?
Will the guy being outed as a chubby chaser get his own outrage too?
It's a story about Tories getting ******. I don't see what's homophobic about any part of that article.
Just a lot of snow flakery from you and your mates Charlie.

Btw, I don't read the mail. I think it's a load of crap, most of the stories posted are just an attempt to trigger the left. Kind of like the guardian but on the opposite end of the political spectrum.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:37 am

Sidney1st wrote:IF he didn't want people to know the last place you'd be kissing someone of the same gender in public would be where your parties conference is...

IF?

His family isn't talking to him. He probably assumed that being in a city centre away from anyone he knows that he's be safe to be who he is among strangers.
But maybe you're right. Maybe he secretly wanted the Daily Mail to photograph him on a night out and come out to his bigotted family that way. Because that makes sense.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:37 am

Imploding Turtle wrote: Rather snowflakey, don't you think?

You're not mocking snowflakes there are you? Snowflakes are people (and sometimes wonderful building blocks which fall from the sky in the cold weather), not acronyms.

Plus, if I google (if i'm allowed to say that - is it too presumptuous? OK...) if I run an internet search on "Snowflake" it returns

"A term used to describe extremist liberals that get offended by every statement and/or belief that doesn't exactly match their own. These individuals think they are just as "unique" as snowflakes, when really their feelings are just as fragile."

Now, forgive me if I'm wrong. That seems to describe you and your reactions towards people who do something as simple as read a certain newspaper. An irrational act, I'd say.

You're being a bit "snowflakey" yourself there aren't you. That also makes you a hypocrite, a bully and an irrational one at that. Doesn't it?

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:39 am

So in summary, a newspaper took pictures of lots of people out and about in Manchester in full public view. Heterosexual couples, people having a drink, people smoking, people talking, people singing and a gay couple. Definitely outrageous. They even seem to have removed the picture of the gay couple once alerted to the embarrassment this was causing one of the people.

There's plenty to get outraged about. This isn't it. If they hadn't shown the gay couple, presumably there'd have been outrage that they were too homophobic to print it. Unless you're just outraged at the Daily Mail no matter what triggers you.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:40 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:You were referring to people, not acronyms. And no, i wasn't offended. Believe it or not very little offends me.

But your op contradicts that.