Shakespeare sacked at Leicester

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:47 pm

Why go to the Kings Power when you are already a powerful king ?

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:54 pm

I think if they want him he will be off and I could fully understand why.

Also, if he did 'fail' there would be Championship clubs queuing up to take him on.

Sutton-Claret · Post by **Sutton-Claret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:04 pm

Personally I think Sean's waiting for the Arsenal job - he won't go to a club who demand instant success after 2 games. I know gooner fans wouldn't want him at the moment but a Burnley top 10 finish could persuade them.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:26 pm

Dyche won't go and work for non football people, i:e Leicester owners.
Players that have demonstrated they have the power and are not afraid to under perform to get there way.

A club with a history of short termism

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:34 pm

I've had an exchange with someone on Twitter this morning about Dyche and the Leicester job. I'm fed up of hearing how Dyche needs to move on to progress his career. Why does he? He's enhancing his reputation more and more with every passing season - leaving just resets his clock to zero and a question mark immediately appears over his head... "can he do it elsewhere?" will be the question.

Leicester have sacked Ranieri after winning the Premier League and sacked Shakespeare for comfortably keeping them up and then starting this campaign steadily. They've had a tough start and remain unbeaten versus those clubs they'd expect to take points off. Their 4 defeats have come against established top 6 sides and there's no shame in that! Why would Dyche leave the stability this club offers him for a 10 game shoot out at Leicester?

Including this season we've had 18 seasons since the millennium. Leicester have spent 7 of those in the PL, 10 in the Championship and 1 in League One. Their previous 6 PL seasons have ended with them in 13th, 20th, 18th, 14th, 1st and 12th. Take away that one unbelievable season and it's not hard to see where they sit in the grand scheme of things (anywhere between 10th and 17th is a success). However, the Board appear to believe they should be an established top half team which they've never really been.

I'm all for ambition but the fact remains that in the past two seasons they've sacked the two Managers who've achieved the highest two finishes they've had in the past 20 odd years and that's something I suspect will put Dyche off!!

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:49 pm

I'd be very surprised if Dyche were to leave us for Leicester. I can see the short term attractions of larger pay, better players (just, maybe?!) and a bigger budget to play with but you have to see what he has at Burnley. The way he has been involved in the set up at Gawthorpe, his influence on the youth set up, his relationship with our (sensible) board, his high regard amongst Claret fans (again, the sensible ones) and the progression he has made in the last 5 years. There is a lot to keep him at Burnley. He will have set his sights on where he wants to slowly but surely improve us; small steps but ensuring progress. He is still a young manager who can be patient.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:10 pm

shows how precarious football is , he probably wont go to leicester, but if he decides on a move eventually because he has succeeded here, we are then left in the lurch with no viable successor to fill his shoes, then we'll sink without a trace.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:30 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:shows how precarious football is , he probably wont go to leicester, but if he decides on a move eventually because he has succeeded here, we are then left in the lurch with no viable successor to fill his shoes, then we'll sink without a trace.

That was a bundle of joy to read..well done

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:34 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:....then we'll sink without a trace.

How on earth have you come to that conclusion, Wile E?
Do you mean it's set in stone that we wouldn't get another decent manager?

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:59 pm

The better Dyche does the higher up the league we will finish. The higher up the league we finish the more other clubs will want him. The higher up the league we are the more attractive we are to other managers.

Our stone won’t be sinking in the immediate future!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:00 pm

I think it's about time he did move on, for both himself and for Burnley. A smart and ambitious club needs to know when a manager has taken that club as far as he can and i think we're about at that point. That's not to say Sean hasn't done wonders for us, he has, but all manager-club pairing have their ceilings and we have clearly reached ours. I was talking about this with a buddy of mine in the park and he agrees with me but thinks that the only hang-up will be negotiating Dyche's severance deal. I asked why and he said it was the amount that Sean would demand would exceed what they club are willing to pay. I asked him "how much will he want?" and he goes "about tree-fiddy". It was at this point i noticed that my buddy was 500 feet tall and from the paleolithic era.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:02 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I think it's about time he did move on, for both himself and for Burnley. A smart and ambitious club needs to know when a manager has taken that club as far as he can and i think we're about at that point. That's not to say Sean hasn't done wonders for us, he has, but all manager-club pairing have their ceilings and we have clearly reached ours. I was talking about this with a buddy of mine in the park and he agrees with me but thinks that the only hang-up will be negotiating Dyche's severance deal. I asked why and he said it was the amount that Sean would demand would exceed what they club are willing to pay. I asked him "how much will he want?" and he goes "about tree-fiddy". It was at this point i noticed that my buddy was 500 feet tall and from the paleolithic era.

I'm sorry but that is absolute ********. If he stayed there is still a considerable amount more he could achieve. Why can't he take us into Europe or a cup final? That would be higher than the perceived ceiling would it not?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:04 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:I'm sorry but that is absolute ********. If he stayed there is still a considerable amount more he could achieve. Why can't he take us into Europe or a cup final? That would be higher than the perceived ceiling would it not?

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:04 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I think it's about time he did move on, for both himself and for Burnley. A smart and ambitious club needs to know when a manager has taken that club as far as he can and i think we're about at that point....

Total boll@x!!!

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:05 pm

I've seen that before from IT.

It must be some form of ''out of office'' reply he has set up when he leaves the room.

But its logic must be off as it mentions Burnley FC, friends and also being outside.

Also it has absolutely nothing to do with politics.

Or he's been hacked

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:16 pm

Have to say the speculation everytime an average-size Prem club need a new manager is properly tedious.

Given the associated stories of SD’s supposed “interest” in these jobs, you do wonder if his agency’s staff are helping to fan the flames.

peter_nobles_fringe · Post by **peter_nobles_fringe** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:43 pm

If and when Dyche decides to leave would all the backroom staff, medical,sports science etc go with him. Now that would be a big hole to fill.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:10 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:How on earth have you come to that conclusion, Wile E?
Do you mean it's set in stone that we wouldn't get another decent manager?

yes, i believe so.
take a long hard look around and be realistic, who d'you think could pick up the baton?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:13 pm

LoveCurryPies wrote:Total boll@x!!!

I wouldn't have given his comment that much gravitas.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:14 pm

peter_nobles_fringe wrote:If and when Dyche decides to leave would all the backroom staff, medical,sports science etc go with him. Now that would be a big hole to fill.

The one thing I wouldn't expect is for SD to walk away leaving us swinging. I'm sure there would be notice given - lets not forget the people who launched SD on Burnley are still the people who would be picking his replacement... so while I'd much rather he stays I'm fairly confident life and Burnley FC would continue. Hopefully its a moot point as there is nothing more than a few people saying he'd be good for them at the moment, and long may it remain just talk

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:24 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I think it's about time he did move on, for both himself and for Burnley. A smart and ambitious club needs to know when a manager has taken that club as far as he can and i think we're about at that point. That's not to say Sean hasn't done wonders for us, he has, but all manager-club pairing have their ceilings and we have clearly reached ours. I was talking about this with a buddy of mine in the park and he agrees with me but thinks that the only hang-up will be negotiating Dyche's severance deal. I asked why and he said it was the amount that Sean would demand would exceed what they club are willing to pay. I asked him "how much will he want?" and he goes "about tree-fiddy". It was at this point i noticed that my buddy was 500 feet tall and from the paleolithic era.

I presume that is your rod that you cast there??

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:28 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:I presume that is your rod that you cast there??

Just demonstrating the importance of reading all of a post before replying.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:32 pm

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dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:39 pm

When they say "almost moved to Crystal Palace", I suppose they actually mean "wasn't interviewed, wasn't offered the job, and may not have taken it if he had been"?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:40 pm

Almost moved to Palace in the summer?

This keeps getting an airing and I'm wondering if that's the case why aren't there matching rumours linking us with other managers in the summer?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:43 pm

I'd stick to the political mumbo jumbo if I were you Turtle Boy.Your risible post proves that neither football nor humour are your strong points.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:51 pm

I promise you when i start having trouble finding humour in things you'll be the first person i reach out to.

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:54 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I think it's about time he did move on, for both himself and for Burnley. A smart and ambitious club needs to know when a manager has taken that club as far as he can and i think we're about at that point. That's not to say Sean hasn't done wonders for us, he has, but all manager-club pairing have their ceilings and we have clearly reached ours. I was talking about this with a buddy of mine in the park and he agrees with me but thinks that the only hang-up will be negotiating Dyche's severance deal. I asked why and he said it was the amount that Sean would demand would exceed what they club are willing to pay. I asked him "how much will he want?" and he goes "about tree-fiddy". It was at this point i noticed that my buddy was 500 feet tall and from the paleolithic era.

Maybe if you gave him a dollar he'd go away

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:59 pm

"Reports suggest that Sean Dyche would be interested in taking over at the King Power stadium" as quoted by the Leicester Mercury online.

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:00 pm

Turtle must have thought when he posted the same a week or two ago it was worth a re-post at some point.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:02 pm

taio wrote:Turtle must have thought when he posted the same a week or two ago it was worth a re-post at some point.

Yes.

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:04 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Yes.

But one wonders why.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:06 pm

Dyche must be in a real dilemma.

'Do I take the Leicester job or hang on a couple more weeks for Everton"?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:08 pm

taio wrote:But one wonders why.

My own amusement, and for the amusement of anyone else familiar with the meme.
Why else?

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:17 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:My own amusement, and for the amusement of anyone else familiar with the meme.
Why else?

Nowt. I wasn't wanting a reply in the first place.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:30 pm

taio wrote:Nowt. I wasn't wanting a reply in the first place.

What's the point of curiosity if you don't want it satisfied?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:33 pm

Great pity. he was a Brit. The only reason he got the job, despite being a Brit, was becaasue they thought he had written a few things. then they discovered it was someone else and that was it.

taio · Post by **taio** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:37 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:What's the point of curiosity if you don't want it satisfied?

It was a statement, not curiosity. Though I am now curious as to why you've twice now posted on a football related thread.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:40 pm

turtle in football related post...people engaging with turtle on football related topic ....

just when you think you've seen you've seen all there is to see in life,.....every days a school day

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:40 pm

Spijed wrote:From Chris Boden:

"Almost a gentleman's agreement in PL not to approach other clubs mid-season, much of which you can trace back to Coyle's departure from Turf"

I'd doubt it

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:41 pm

Its amazing how many people on here know what Dyche will do. "he wont leave" "he wouldn't take his staff" "he wouldn't fancy the Leicester job because they have sacked a few managers"

I hope he goes, his football is stinking.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:42 pm

I think there would be a lot more people hoping you'd go.

Saxoman · Post by **Saxoman** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:44 pm

KRBFC wrote:Its amazing how many people on here know what Dyche will do. "he wont leave" "he wouldn't take his staff" "he wouldn't fancy the Leicester job because they have sacked a few managers"

I hope he goes, his football is stinking.

Too many rovers fan thought that about Sam allardyce. Your players aren't as good as you think. Dyche goes and I suspect you'll find that out.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think there would be a lot more people hoping you'd go.

Probably but I'm your favourite poster so I doubt it will ever happen

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:47 pm

KRBFC has gone..its called physcosomatic

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:47 pm

You'd think he'd be interested but might be put off by the timing - as pre-season is a massive part of his success. His worst season in football being when he didn't have a pre-season with a squad.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:51 pm

Saxoman wrote:Too many rovers fan thought that about Sam allardyce. Your players aren't as good as you think. Dyche goes and I suspect you'll find that out.

I believe we have good players capable of better than hoofball tosh and a horrible lack of creativity and fluidity. We just need a coach capable of finding a balance between attack and defence and Dyche simply hasn't at PL level Imo.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:55 pm

KRBFC wrote:I believe we have good players capable of better than hoofball tosh and a horrible lack of creativity and fluidity. We just need a coach capable of finding a balance between attack and defence and Dyche simply hasn't at PL level Imo.

Bait cast.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:57 pm

taio wrote:It was a statement, not curiosity. Though I am now curious as to why you've twice now posted on a football related thread.

I like football.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:57 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Bait cast.

I feel a big one coming.....