Joey Barton about to be under fire again

what_no_pies · Post by **what_no_pies** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:23 pm

Just said that Usworth doesn't look like a manager and that you don't see many fat managers. Can see this one blowing up quicker than Unsworth has...

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:24 pm

To be fair Unsworth has put on a hell of a lot of ballast, Steve Bruce - style. I hope he can shift as well he did.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:26 pm

Bigsam and Rafa Benitez are 2 that spring to mind

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:26 pm

Steve Evans has made a decent career for himself in the lower leagues despite being a fatty.
And a prick.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:27 pm

Surely Barton can say what he wants?

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:29 pm

Didn't Barton also say Dyce would be a good fit at Everton (not verbatim,but similar)

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:29 pm

Whether it's a politically correct statement or not, his statement isn't wrong is it? I am struggling to think of anymore than the ones listed already.

I am fat myself so I am not being harsh about it with any malice, just saying his statement is sound.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:29 pm

Not like they can ban him anymore than he already is.

Yes Unworth has put on some timber, some people do when they aren't training everyday.

He's right about the lack of chubby managers though, is this a discrimination thing?

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:29 pm

I wonder if there's a bit of history between the two of them. It seems an egregiously unnecessary barb, otherwise.

Transpennine · Post by **Transpennine** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:36 pm

"Glorified PE teacher" Dont think they'll be exchanging Christmas cards...

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:40 pm

He wasn't exactly a small player in his day either.

Rodneyyouplonker · Post by **Rodneyyouplonker** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:44 pm

Haha heard that when out in car made me laugh when he said about his defending and he just used to kick ball up the wing from leftback when he watched him as a season ticket holder, seemed to me he doesn't like him personally for what ever reason

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:47 pm

Rodneyyouplonker wrote:Haha heard that when out in car made me laugh when he said about his defending and he just used to kick ball up the wing from leftback when he watched him as a season ticket holder, seemed to me he doesn't like him personally for what ever reason

Imagine if David Jones was lined up to be our manager in a few years - be quite a few fans going into melt down

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:51 pm

jedi_master wrote:Whether it's a politically correct statement or not, his statement isn't wrong is it?

I don't think it's about whether he's correct statistically, or not. It's the context he's used it in that I find it a bit bizarre.
And how can you not look like a manager?

I loved how much Barton helped us when he was here, but he'll always be a bit of a twonk.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:04 pm

Chipper Unsworth he called him - because all he did was chip it down the line. He gave him a fair lot of grief.

He also said “ I don’t want to upset the Burnley fans but they’d do far lot worse than get Sean Dyche. He is infinitely better than most of the managers I have heard linked with the job. He cut through all the stuff off the pitch”

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:07 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I don't think it's about whether he's correct statistically, or not. It's the context he's used it in that I find it a bit bizarre.
And how can you not look like a manager?

I loved how much Barton helped us when he was here, but he'll always be a bit of a twonk.

He was questioning how a manager can lecture players about fitness, eating plans etc when they are ‘slightly out of shape themselves’. Also said he had never managed men - only boys.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:07 pm

The guy from Rotherham who went onto manage Leeds was the fattest one I have ever seen. I genuinely expected him to collapse with a heart attack every time he was on the touchline.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:08 pm

He’s not quite as rotund as Big Fat Sam.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:10 pm

Joey is bang on. A fat c!nt should never have the right to manage or play for any sporting team.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:12 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:He’s not quite as rotund as Big Fat Sam.

The ex Leeds fat controller makes Fat Sam look like an anorexic supermodel.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:14 pm

Ancelotti isn't exactly a stick insect and he's done alright overall.

Indecisive · Post by **Indecisive** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:16 pm

There may well be some history there, because that was OTT and personal really.

Really don't like that side of Barton. It's not analytical or incisive commentary, its just name calling.

Barton is also a massive fan of Dyche. As an Everton fan he would probably love to see him there. Probably another reason to 'go in' on Unsworth.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:17 pm

Sounds unnecessary and just trying to create controversy for attention.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:20 pm

Loyalclaret wrote:He was questioning how a manager can lecture players about fitness, eating plans etc when they are ‘slightly out of shape themselves’. Also said he had never managed men - only boys.

That still doesn't make much sense, as Unsworth was once a pro footballer. He no doubt has knowledge and experience of how to teach fitness and eating plans. You can still know how to train and eat properly, even if you no longer do it to pro athlete standard yourself.

clarethomer · Post by **clarethomer** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:22 pm

He isn't a manager and for anyone to think they were able to take over a club like Everton it would have taken him at least a complete turnaround in form, not a continuance of what got the last manager sacked.

Remember him having to be dragged back from Eagles when we played at Preston.

I think the major shareholder will get his way with a foreign manager hopefully.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:27 pm

It's hardly setting a good example to highly tuned atheletes and the general public when their leader is grossly overweight. When Coyle was in Management in England was it his brother in law that was one of his assistants that carried similar weight to Unsworth. Oh and Bruce has put weight back on by the look of things.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:31 pm

But the manager often doesn't take training. Nor does he become a dietician to make sure the players eat right.

Sure, the manager might be at the training ground, but not actually taking the players through their paces.

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:38 pm

It's hardly " lead by example" though is it. Barton does have a point in my view.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:39 pm

Not convinced he has a point and if he did there's no need for publically making such personal remarks.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:46 pm

Once a d!ckhead always a d!ckhead

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 6:58 pm

I thought he had a point then started suggesting 'big Sam' to come in to get them out of trouble. Which made me think it was either personal or deliberately controversial.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:09 pm

I don't know whether Unsworth is a good manager or not although he does have a good reputation from coaching at under 23 level, fat or not. It amazes me how he is being judged after 2 games away to the last 2 clubs to be Premier league champions. If he had won these games would he then have been a good manager? If Dyche was offered the job and didn't win the first 2 games would he then become a bad manager?

I am sure that this madness from supporters, pundits and club owners is one reason why we are likely to keep Sean at Burnley (for the moment at least).

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:15 pm

If you want a career in the sporting media there is no point in being bland. controversy earns money.

what_no_pies · Post by **what_no_pies** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:31 pm

I'm not convinced he had any agenda - just said 'he doesn't look like a manager' without much thought then when pressed to clarify what he meant he bluntly called him fat. Didn't seem to engage his brain or any sort of filter. Nor did he particularly seem to care after his comment whilst his co-commentator seemed a bit awkward.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:31 pm

Big Sam to save them from relegation. 1 season, probably after the international break, when Unsworth will put his hands up in acceptance.... we hope.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:11 pm

Barton perfect for talksh-ite

He's taking tips from the likes of Adrian Durham - say something controversial and it will get in the news and social media - all of a sudden lots more people know he's on the radio.

Of course for someone like Barton he does not have a steep learning curve in the art of being controversial.

Personally I think it's completely irrelevant to whether he can do the job or not. It is also quite personal and unnecessary.

More relevant than someone's weight would be for example how someone who has been criminally prosecuted a couple of times gets a chance to become a pundit ahead of say another ex footballer / wannabe pundit who does not have a criminal record......hypothetically of course.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:18 pm

KRBFC wrote:Once a d!ckhead always a d!ckhead

Well... you should know.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:20 pm

From Grimsby's fanzine 'Cod Almighty' after the 1-1 League Cup draw in 2007: 'Did anyone notice Unsworth being replaced by Harley? How did we miss that? The crab nebula was now visible, as was half the Main Stand; although there was nobody in that half.

http://codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=511" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is their report on the 6-5 game - those were the days!

http://codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=262" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:47 pm

Steve Evans got himself fit at Leeds and had shed several stones by the time he left.

I had heard he trained relentlessly with Charlie Taylor on his comeback from injury.

Up until then he was certainly a big lad.

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:17 pm

Hipper wrote:From Grimsby's fanzine 'Cod Almighty' after the 1-1 League Cup draw in 2007: 'Did anyone notice Unsworth being replaced by Harley? How did we miss that? The crab nebula was now visible, as was half the Main Stand; although there was nobody in that half.

http://codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=511" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is their report on the 6-5 game - those were the days!

http://codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=262" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This game, is probably my fave ever radio game. The car radio cutting in and out of signal while trying to talk to a new girlfriend on the phone also phone signal probs.
By FT another Claret confirmed.

Mental game.
6-5

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:50 am

only interested in his own self promotion, cares nothing for burnley fans.
his support for dyche leaving for everton proves he has no thoughts about the club who welcomed him , or the fans.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:55 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:only interested in his own self promotion, cares nothing for burnley fans.
his support for dyche leaving for everton proves he has no thoughts about the club who welcomed him , or the fans.

I think many of us, including you, knew this when he joined. It was just a case of while he was a Burnley player, nothing bad could be said of him. But we know what he's like.

I think it says a lot about Dyche. Dyche was someone he respected and that's why he behaved himself, most of the time.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:31 am

Unsworth is doing his best to look the part. I noticed yesterday he has managed to find a XXXXL manager's jumper. Just needs the notebook now, and someone to let him know when the camera is on him.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:11 am

clarethomer wrote:
Remember him having to be dragged back from Eagles when we played at Preston.

Correct. Unsworth was a complete dick that day.

blackburnturfite · Post by **blackburnturfite** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:25 am

Top Claret wrote:Joey is bang on. A fat c!nt should never have the right to manage or play for any sporting team.

And i suppose you are saying over-weight people shouldn't work in the Health Service as well. etc.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:52 am

blackburnturfite wrote:And i suppose you are saying over-weight people shouldn't work in the Health Service as well. etc.

Or travel on public services..

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 4:12 pm

blackburnturfite wrote:And i suppose you are saying over-weight people shouldn't work in the Health Service as well. etc.

Definitely!!! They should be ashamed of themselves.