Arsenal game sold out

[Leisure]

Every seat in rows behind the pillars in the two older stands has some kind of restricted view, you do realise that the 'restricted view' seats listed on the website are only categorised so if you cannot see both goals, if you can see both goals but hardly anything of the centre of the pitch that it doesn't count as such.

Add to this the front few rows of the new stands, especially the James Hargreaves Stand which are incredibly below pitch level, the view is appalling and add to this fans getting bloody soaked in these seats if it rains, wonder why seats in this prime position down the side of the pitch are usually among the last to be sold?

Yes thousands, maybe not 10,000 but certainly a considerable amount which will runs into thousands.

Turf Moor is not the cinema or the theatre but fans expectations of what is adequate for a fairly hefty admission fee have gone up since the days of standing in your own urine when going for a pee at half time in the 70's and 80's. If Burnley FC want a legacy to go with the training ground then a long term project to make Turf Moor a 21st Century ground should be high on it.

Should we be chucking £20-30 Million at it next summer? Certainly not but with the apparently seriously good chance of being in the Premier League come August 2018 we should move the plans for a constructive and well planned discussion at boardroom level forward, with hopefully continued success on the field funding the much needed improvements in the next few seasons.

Maybe they should just knock it down and build an ultra modern sterile stadium! (But with perfect views from every seat!)

[tim_noone]

Maybe they should just knock it down and build an ultra modern sterile stadium! (But with perfect views from every seat!)

Yes that would be good...I like your thinking.

[Claretforever]

Maybe they should just knock it down and build an ultra modern sterile stadium! (But with perfect views from every seat!)

I know you’re being facetious, but actually a longer term plan could be to build two new stands to replace the older ones, increasing capacity by 3-4,000 whilst the longer term plan is to reduce the capacity of the older stands. They could remove the from 6-7 rows so that the viewing experience begins higher up, a bit like the Bob Lord Stand now. Doesn’t need to be a bowl, and doesn’t need to be any more sterile than a normal all seater ground like we have now.

Just another idea for a longer term plan. Whatever they do I’d hope there’s a legacy left at Turf Moor too. Football is cyclical so eventually we will drop and not see the TV money. We’ll then cry poverty and if we have to replace stands in years to come we’ll do things on the cheap....again!

[NottsClaret]

Not arsed what the stands look like as long as I can see the pitch from them and our capacity is just about spot on.

[fatboy47]

Sounds like a bunch of faggots arguing the toss here...

Crammed into the old Longside, for all its stink of weed, p*ss and beer fumes was something I found a hundred times more uplifting than sitting amongst the current sterile tribe of guacamole eating fannies.

Just sayin.

[Lancasterclaret]

I'm pretty sure that the work to knock down two stands and build two news ones would negatively effect our performances on the pitch, which would possibly result in relegation, which would make the new stands unnecessary.

[Claretforever]

I'm pretty sure that the work to knock down two stands and build two news ones would negatively effect our performances on the pitch, which would possibly result in relegation, which would make the new stands unnecessary.

So what do we do, wait until they fall down? Anyway, I’d be happy with new, quality cladding and new signage.

[Lancasterclaret]

They will need replacing eventually, but not now.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I'm pretty sure that the work to knock down two stands and build two news ones would negatively effect our performances on the pitch, which would possibly result in relegation, which would make the new stands unnecessary.

Keep going the way we are and we might be able to knock them down and start building in January without having to worry about that for 8 months.

[Lancasterclaret]

If we could do that, then that would be the best solution! But I'm not sure that would be possible.

How long would it take to get permission to do it for starters?

[Bordeauxclaret]

In all seriousness the time will come, soonish if we stay where we are, to replace at least one of the stands while we have the money.

Ideally they need to include things that can continue to bring in revenue in the future when things won’t be so good.

[Lancasterclaret]

A shopping precinct full of betting shops, pawn shops and charity shops?

[Bordeauxclaret]

Stopfundingstopfundinghate Campaign Headquarters could prove quite lucrative.

[Lancasterclaret]

Maybe we could get the Daily Mail to move its HQ there?

[Bordeauxclaret]

Good thinking. Would anyone notice if we changed our shirts from claret to brown?

[Lancasterclaret]

Sales would go through the roof.

And our manager has got the perfect daily mail initials as well

SD - Sicherheitsdienst

[UpTheBeehole]

Good thinking. Would anyone notice if we changed our shirts from claret to brown?

If we went the whole hog and changed them to black, at least we'd get some favourable coverage in the Daily Mail

[Royboyclaret]

Or maybe the club could pay a visit to Padiham Paints, purchase a few tins of white emulsion and make the outside of the ground look presentable. One that gives the impression of a proud Premier League club as opposed to a skint one from the Unibond Plastic League.

We can leave the argument for building new stands for another day.

[Goody1975]

Maybe they should just knock it down and build an ultra modern sterile stadium! (But with perfect views from every seat!)

Yes cause that's exactly what i was proposing.

You do realise a redevelopment could include some kind of safe standing if legislation is passed? Hardly a soulless bowl then is it?

[Goody1975]

I know you’re being facetious, but actually a longer term plan could be to build two new stands to replace the older ones, increasing capacity by 3-4,000 whilst the longer term plan is to reduce the capacity of the older stands. They could remove the from 6-7 rows so that the viewing experience begins higher up, a bit like the Bob Lord Stand now. Doesn’t need to be a bowl, and doesn’t need to be any more sterile than a normal all seater ground like we have now.

Just another idea for a longer term plan. Whatever they do I’d hope there’s a legacy left at Turf Moor too. Football is cyclical so eventually we will drop and not see the TV money. We’ll then cry poverty and if we have to replace stands in years to come we’ll do things on the cheap....again!

Bob on.

[Goody1975]

If we could do that, then that would be the best solution! But I'm not sure that would be possible.

How long would it take to get permission to do it for starters?

Exactly the reason why it needs to be discussed in the fairly near future whether that be this season or next, if the board agree to some kind of redevelopment then they will need to find architects, have plans drawn up and submitted which will have obvious objections from local residents, it could take well over twelve months from deciding to start the project to being in a position to do any kind of building work, even if there was a serious intention from the board now to go ahead with substantial changes to one or more of the stands the work wouldn't go ahead before 2020 at the earliest in my opinion, by then the stands will be 52 and 46 years old.

[Stan Tastic]

Never liked The Bob Lord Stand. If they'd stuck to the original plans and made it cantilever and twice as big it would've been fine.

It's so out of proportion with the rest of the stadium and looks awful as you approach it from the town centre.

We need to do it now whilst we're swimming in cash because who knows what the future holds.

[Claretforever]

If we’d have done what was originally intended we’d have had a single tier, cantilever stand where the Bob Lord is, holding 8,000 fans. We’d also have a Cricket Field Stand where the Bee Hole is, holding 4,500 (original capacity) had we received planning consent.

In all likelihood we’d have build a Cricket Field end as it is now, which would take capacity to 17,000, and to match it all up another 8,000 seater stand at the Longside, likely giving us 25,000 seats. It would surprise me if Bob Lord had thought about it. We’d basically have a ground which looked like a Preston, but better.

[Claretforever]

Never liked The Bob Lord Stand. If they'd stuck to the original plans and made it cantilever and twice as big it would've been fine.

It's so out of proportion with the rest of the stadium and looks awful as you approach it from the town centre.

We need to do it now whilst we're swimming in cash because who knows what the future holds.

I agree, Stan. We have to at least have plans in place now, whilst we have money. The last thing I want to see is duplicates of those cheap looking and finished stands at the Longside and Bee Hole because “we don’t have the Premier League riches”. The brickwork is falling to bits in places after only 20 years!!!

We will go down eventually. Sorry for the negative spin, but we are not an established top 6 who almost guarantee staying up. If and when we do it would be nice enticing players with a first class training facility AND stadium. Ours used to be, but we fell behind the times. It’s time we caught up.

[Claretforever]

Anyway, why couldn’t we build a replacement stand at the same time as having the other one open? One option is to build from the back, and the other to move down....like Everton did. This is at Goodison v Forest in 1969.

[joey13]

Could we not relocate for a season like Tottenham have done , Wembley is too far away but Ewood Park is decent alternative.

[skibum84]

Keep going the way we are and we might be able to knock them down and start building in January without having to worry about that for 8 months.

Haha it takes more like 2years not 2 months to plan to build two footballs stands.

[Greenmile]

If we went the whole hog and changed them to black, at least we'd get some favourable coverage in the Daily Mail

I'd never actually read any of that article before, but now I realise the worst thing about it was the suggestion that the Italians invented football. Heresy!

[Bordeauxclaret]

Haha it takes more like 2years not 2 months to plan to build two footballs stands.

No way!!!

[TonbridgeClaret]

In addition to the sellout at this game, a couple of good results out of the next three matches could mean a home seats sellout at the Watford game. The Stoke game on a Tuesday night in December will only be around 19,000 - 20,000 but after that we should easily sellout the next 4 homes matches (Spurs, Liverpool, Man Utd, Man City) - good times!