Be very careful if you have a seat near the corner flag

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:27 am

I don't know which club and I don't know when it happened, but this is for real.

An eagle eyed viewer of MoTD is offended at the sight of a supporter making a masturbatory gesture at an opposing player taking a corner & writes to the home club to complain. Fan contacted by his club & asked to explain his actions & is expecting to be banned.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:28 am

ClaretTony wrote:I don't know which club and I don't know when it happened, but this is for real.

An eagle eyed viewer of MoTD is offended at the sight of a supporter making a masturbatory gesture at an opposing player taking a corner & writes to the home club to complain. Fan contacted by his club & asked to explain his actions & is expecting to be banned.

W@nkers

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:28 am

Encourage global warming! It might rid us of the snowflakes!

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:29 am

What a w@nker

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:44 am

Or how about just act like you're not 12, regardless of where you sit?

Nifkin · Post by **Nifkin** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:46 am

Surely "a japs eyed viewer"

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:47 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Or how about just act like you're not 12, regardless of where you sit?

Totally agree, but if they’re going to go down that route then grounds will be half full!! Giving that sign is no different to swearing and if we’re going to ban people for swearing it will be the end of football crowds!!

KeighleyClaret · Post by **KeighleyClaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:49 am

It amazes me that when players get lengthy bans for making gestures at fans who are taunting them, chucking bottles at them, chanting obscenities about their wives and partners etc, the fans who provoke this expect no consequences.

Frankly these idiots are embarrassing. It should be unacceptable in 2017.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:50 am

I get offended seeing someone waving/thumbing at a player, if I write to that club I hope they take appropriate action.

Can hand gestures really cause offence?
I mean can they really?

Different fingers/motions are mean different things depending on where you are from. Eastern Europe has many weird n wacky signs

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:54 am

Why do I need to be careful? I've never taken especial care to avoid making deliberately obscene gestures, and I don't think I need to start now.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:00 am

If you want to make such a gesture you should be able to please yourself..

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:32 am

They've got him.

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:33 am

This could have been me...

Especially after Ollson had deliberately smacked the ball into the CFS after Barnes' goal.
Two way thing I am afraid.
Can we get footage of that incident and ban Ollson?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:41 am

Should get this eagle eyed viewer to work for the police to pick out some Hannover fans.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:54 am

2 Bee Holed wrote:This could have been me...
Especially after Ollson had deliberately smacked the ball into the CFS after Barnes' goal.
Two way thing I am afraid.
Can we get footage of that incident and ban Ollson?

Same Ollson saying "f off" to the fans in the CFS giving him stick at the end of the match.

Should we have a big hoo haa about it or just laugh that we've managed to get under his skin for a game and potentially helped Burnley to have a bit of an advantage on the pitch.

The biggest crumble I have seen once our fans have turned and a glorious night in the CFS was against Derby where Shackell felt the brunt of how intimidating the Turf can be. Let's start applauding opposition and giving them a pat on the back for a good goal or pass against us eh?

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:57 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWZJn0Ir49g
*NSFW with sound on as has some bad language*

This has to be on of the greatest celebrations ever though - it includes the questionable hand motion too

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:59 am

That’s an easy one to get out of....llll

“Honest guv.... i was suggesting to him he’s going to have to be pulling up poles now to get anywhere”

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:03 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:Totally agree, but if they’re going to go down that route then grounds will be half full!! Giving that sign is no different to swearing and if we’re going to ban people for swearing it will be the end of football crowds!!

Believe it or not people have been banned for that. Gesticulating towards away fans was the exact descirption!

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:15 pm

I'd have fined the person complaining.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:53 pm

It was sign language for time for a hot dog.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:34 pm

Not as bad as the West Ham fans ringing 999 when their team gets beat.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-42054350

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:41 pm

KeighleyClaret wrote:It amazes me that when players get lengthy bans for making gestures at fans who are taunting them, chucking bottles at them, chanting obscenities about their wives and partners etc, the fans who provoke this expect no consequences.

Frankly these idiots are embarrassing. It should be unacceptable in 2017.

I agree Keighley but I have been a claret since around 1950 and until perhaps the mid 60's it wasn't acceptable or common place

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I don't know which club and I don't know when it happened, but this is for real.

An eagle eyed viewer of MoTD is offended at the sight of a supporter making a masturbatory gesture at an opposing player taking a corner & writes to the home club to complain. Fan contacted by his club & asked to explain his actions & is expecting to be banned.

Its not appropriate, but you’re only questioning if its for real because your so used to people making similar hand gestures at you.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:40 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Or how about just act like you're not 12, regardless of where you sit?

Great stuff!

There is nothing more unseemly than an adult making 2 or 1 fingered gestures or the one cited. They pull grotesque faces to match.

Sometimes they have their child with them.

What's the point?

If they could see what I have to look at.....

Distinct lack of adulthood and that's just for starters.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:45 pm

Cant ban for that

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:48 pm

IanMcL wrote:Great stuff!

There is nothing more unseemly than an adult making 2 or 1 fingered gestures or the one cited. They pull grotesque faces to match.

Sometimes they have their child with them.

What's the point?

If they could see what I have to look at.....

Distinct lack of adulthood and that's just for starters.

I wonder if they’re actually embarrassed if they see themselves on the tv like that? They should be!

Rammy1968 · Post by **Rammy1968** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:52 pm

Why can people not use bad language and hand gestures it’s football not ballet or the orchestra!
The majority of people supporting Burnley are working class, working in factories and the like. It’s everyday language to most people nowadays most women swear more than men. They are words and gestures they never hurt anyone just ignore them simple!

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:54 pm

If taking offence were an Olympic event, we would be world beaters.

I’m not one for such gestures myself but I acknowledge some people are brought up differently. Discouraging it is one thing, banning people for it is completely outrageous. Sections of society are now being regularly targetted for everything they do, short of drawing breath. It will probably be called inciting hatred whereas when I was younger it would simply be calling someone a tosser. I find some of these people repulsive, but I wouldn’t go overboard in trying to force my mannerisms and morality on them.

Cue the liberals with the standard response that is rapidly alienating huge swathes of Britain with it’s self appointed moral superiority

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:02 pm

I’d love to see footballers go into a fans place of work and hurl abuse at them

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:08 pm

Rammy1968 wrote:Why can people not use bad language and hand gestures it’s football not ballet or the orchestra!
The majority of people supporting Burnley are working class, working in factories and the like. It’s everyday language to most people nowadays most women swear more than men. They are words and gestures they never hurt anyone just ignore them simple!

That's a dodgy attitude on two counts - one, it implies that working class people are somehow less able to control their behaviour in the presence of children; two, it implies that swearing in public places is fine and acceptable. Point two is a valid belief if that's the way it takes you - and plenty of people do judging by the way (mostly young) people choose to swear at each other or at random at the tops of their voices.

Grimsdale · Post by **Grimsdale** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:23 pm

Right, you're banned, you're banned, you're banned, you're banned, you're banned ...

2 Bee Holed · Post by **2 Bee Holed** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:32 pm

bfccrazy wrote:Same Ollson saying "f off" to the fans in the CFS giving him stick at the end of the match.

Should we have a big hoo haa about it or just laugh that we've managed to get under his skin for a game and potentially helped Burnley to have a bit of an advantage on the pitch.

The biggest crumble I have seen once our fans have turned and a glorious night in the CFS was against Derby where Shackell felt the brunt of how intimidating the Turf can be. Let's start applauding opposition and giving them a pat on the back for a good goal or pass against us eh?

I don't want a big hoo haa bfccrazy. I am merely pointing out that Ollson could have knocked out a kid with the power behind that kick, hence it's dangerous. As far as I know, no one has ever been injured by a hand gesture.

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:40 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I don't know which club and I don't know when it happened, but this is for real.

An eagle eyed viewer of MoTD is offended at the sight of a supporter making a masturbatory gesture at an opposing player taking a corner & writes to the home club to complain. Fan contacted by his club & asked to explain his actions & is expecting to be banned.

Tony, I would be amazed if this isn't Chelsea....their supporters in one particular corner act like morons whenever the opposition have a corner kick right in front of them.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:41 pm

I have no issue with language at football. Folk can use gestures too. It is how an adult looks when doing these gestures that is the issue. Would they do it anywhere else? Do they know how they appear?

I have seen some very respectable chaps losing themselves in V signs etc! They look like men in white coats should help them!

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:51 pm

IanMcL wrote:I have no issue with language at football. Folk can use gestures too. It is how an adult looks when doing these gestures that is the issue. Would they do it anywhere else? Do they know how they appear?

I have seen some very respectable chaps losing themselves in V signs etc! They look like men in white coats should help them!

My point exactly, I’m not offended by them, I just wonder if they’d be embarrassed if they saw themselves.

levraiclaret · Post by **levraiclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:02 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:I’d love to see footballers go into a fans place of work and hurl abuse at them

If they pay me £500 a year, they are welcome for an hour and a half per week for 19 weeks.

God they would be bored.

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:15 pm

The funniest story I heard was a Cardiff (?) fan appearing in court over pitch encroachment, and threatening the opposing fans, which I’m assuming were Swansea, some years ago.

When in court explaining the footage, the said fellow’s defence was that his mate had told him that there was a fire in the away end, and that he ran over, and was gesturing and shouting ‘There’s a fire! Quick, come on, get the women and children out first’.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:28 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:If taking offence were an Olympic event, we would be world beaters.

I’m not one for such gestures myself but I acknowledge some people are brought up differently. Discouraging it is one thing, banning people for it is completely outrageous. Sections of society are now being regularly targetted for everything they do, short of drawing breath. It will probably be called inciting hatred whereas when I was younger it would simply be calling someone a tosser. I find some of these people repulsive, but I wouldn’t go overboard in trying to force my mannerisms and morality on them.

Cue the liberals with the standard response that is rapidly alienating huge swathes of Britain with it’s self appointed moral superiority

Is getting offended by "obscene" hand gestures more or less pathetic than getting offended by people choosing not to buy from certain retailers because of where they advertise?

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:50 pm

football has become too sanitised, i like a bit of swearing and expressive language. Often feel its quieter because everything is considered offensive.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:12 pm

don't see how they could enforce a ban for this, there would be 1000 people allowed in every ground only

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:43 pm

Absolutely rammed with sad bas*ards is this country.

john'sroseyspecs · Post by **john'sroseyspecs** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:59 pm

Was once on the turf for a pre-season friendly against Liverpool. My mate was giving it Scouse wankers this, Scouse wankers that. After quite a few minutes of this a bloke from the row behind tapped him on the shoulder and said " I'm a Scouse ******. Please give it a rest or I'll chin you" My point? Both had paid their entrance money and both got their say!

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:29 am

Vegas Claret wrote:don't see how they could enforce a ban for this, there would less than 100 vicars and nuns allowed in every ground only

corrected that for you

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:46 am

Grimsdale wrote:Right, you're banned, you're banned, you're banned, you're banned, you're banned ...

Even the young Wayne Rooney is at it (mid right in brown jacket). I can tell it is 'the young' Rooney because he has more hair now.

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:12 am

Amazingly, I have just spotted my old form tutor in that picture, I saw him straight away. Not seen the bloke in almost 20 years.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:55 pm

2 Bee Holed wrote:I don't want a big hoo haa bfccrazy. I am merely pointing out that Ollson could have knocked out a kid with the power behind that kick, hence it's dangerous. As far as I know, no one has ever been injured by a hand gesture.

Think we're on the same side here mate, I want the atmosphere at the Turf to be intimidating and get under the oppositiona skin - I want Burnley to pour cold water on Arsenals changing rooms on Sunday and turn off the heating in there .... As you say, a hand gesture never hurt anybody in that way so don't get why somebody would be so offended. Players get more stick off home fans than they do opposition half of the time and the stuff written on Swanseas forum about Ollson in lead up to our game was probably worse than what we said to him.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:48 pm

KeighleyClaret wrote:It amazes me that when players get lengthy bans for making gestures at fans who are taunting them, chucking bottles at them, chanting obscenities about their wives and partners etc, the fans who provoke this expect no consequences.

Frankly these idiots are embarrassing. It should be unacceptable in 2017.

Didier Drogba threw back a coin into the Burnley crowd didn't he? Cant remember if he was ever banned but you can kinda understand why he did it.

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:59 pm

MACCA wrote:I get offended seeing someone waving/thumbing at a player, if I write to that club I hope they take appropriate action.

Can hand gestures really cause offence?
I mean can they really?

Different fingers/motions are mean different things depending on where you are from. Eastern Europe has many weird n wacky signs

Err, Paulo Di Canio's Roman salute.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:08 pm

dibraidio wrote:Err, Paulo Di Canio's Roman salute.

I'm outraged when fans slap their wrist with a blank expression towards the end of games.

I don't condone the mimicking of disabled people no matter how long the referee has added or played extra. It's appalling to even think such a thing is acceptable, never mind carry such action out!

Yet asking if someone wants a brew leads to a complaint and possible ban.
Outrageous!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:34 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:corrected that for you

brilliant