More post brexit referendum good news!!!!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:15 pm

More fantastic news! Proving the 17.4 million brits knew what they were doing when they voted to get out of the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... 8-cbi-says" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The best since 1988!!!! Brilliant news!!!

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:18 pm

All because of the terrible pound, which fell significantly against other currencies after Brexit.

Slow hand clap.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:19 pm

Here's a good comment from the article

Comments seem a bit scarce....

But before an avalanche of brexiteers tell us this proves their case, lets remember:

1. One engine of this is the cheap pound, which was indeed caused by the brexit vote. But as well as making our exports cheaper, that makes our imports more expensive. We import far more manufactured goods than we export.

2. The vast majority of our exports go to the EU. No deal, or a "hard" brexit, would most likely make those less competitive.

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:30 pm

Do the 'vast majority' of our manufacturing exports go to the EU?

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:33 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:All because of the terrible pound, which fell significantly against other currencies after Brexit.

Slow hand clap.

It was a huge fundamental brexit. Its been on the road to pre brexit levels ever since despite laughs that it wouldn't recover.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:34 pm

Yeah the flip side comes when you need to import raw materials once the current stock has been used and they're really expensive.

We're also, as of this moment, still in the EU.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:36 pm

Hipper wrote:Do the 'vast majority' of our manufacturing exports go to the EU?

Once we leave we can finalise trade deals all round the world!!

Stop being a little Europeaner!

It's great news!

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:38 pm

Hipper wrote:Do the 'vast majority' of our manufacturing exports go to the EU?

44% of goods exports go to the EU, compared with 48% of total goods and services exports. Not what I'd call a avast majority. Not what I'd call a majority at all, in fact

https://visual.ons.gov.uk/uk-trade-partners/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:38 pm

So you can find a negative or conversely a positive either way.
More importantly can you explain to me why the EU want us to pay 53 Billion over 2 years to maintain a trading partnership where we have a 40 Billion deficit yearly.
Which is basically to cover the amounts we were paying anyway before Brexit.
Why are we to, and were previously, paying up to 53 Billion for them to receive 80 Billion pounds more than they buy?
Merkel is now paying for her immigration folly, and Germany has the most to lose in a trade stalemate

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:39 pm

We’ve not left the EU yet?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:42 pm

dsr wrote:44% of goods exports go to the EU, compared with 48% of total goods and services exports. Not what I'd call a avast majority. Not what I'd call a majority at all, in fact

https://visual.ons.gov.uk/uk-trade-partners/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yet there the Tories are, making the UK the laughing stock of the world with their 42.4% share of the vote majority.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:42 pm

amusing to see roger gets ripped for being a clueless bellend on the gurdian site as well as on here.

at least he's consistent, i'll give him that.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:43 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:We’ve not left the EU yet?

Very fair point Bordeaux. I suppose that means Brexit can't be 'blamed' for the vast majority of the negative shite posted on here as well then.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:44 pm

SammyBoy wrote:Yeah the flip side comes when you need to import raw materials once the current stock has been used and they're really expensive.

We're also, as of this moment, still in the EU.

But we were told that the simple act of voting Leave, not actually leaving would see" confidence in the UK economy evaporate over night.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... uk-economy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lies lies lies.

The Remoaners said just voting to leave would be "like putting a nuclear bomb under The British economy" NOT LEAVING just voting to Leave

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... uk-economy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lies lies and more lies

Anyway let's celebrate that areas like ours should benefit from this post brexit boom. And the fact that we'd have an extra 500,000 unemployed by now, have been proven to be just more whoppers peddled by the likes of Clegg, Farron, Osborne and Cameron.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:47 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:We’ve not left the EU yet?

This is what would happen by just voting to leave.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... uk-economy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... uk-economy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lying Remoaner B*********

And mugs like you fell for it.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:50 pm

The number of people on unemployment benefits has risen by 20,000 since the referendum

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:51 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:This is what would happen by just voting to leave.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... uk-economy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... uk-economy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lying Remoaner B*********

And mugs like you fell for it.

Again, we’ve not left the EU yet.

Plus I certainly didn’t fall for anything the two muppets Cameron and Darling said.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:02 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:But we were told that the simple act of voting Leave, not actually leaving would see" confidence in the UK economy evaporate over night.

Regardless of what George Osborne said prior to the vote, it doesn't mean my comment is any less true. Whichever way you look at it the short term benefits of a weaker GBP will be negated in the long run when manufacturers need to import raw materials, it's just basic economics. However, feel free to deliberately misinterpret this news if that's your bag.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:09 pm

18 posts on politics and not a turtles head in sight

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:18 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Again, we’ve not left the EU yet.

Plus I certainly didn’t fall for anything the two muppets Cameron and Darling said.

Again. It's really not sinking in is it!?

It's not complicated.

Operation Lie promised us economic Armageddon if we simply had the neck to VOTE to leave. We voted Leave and what they said have been proven to be lies. Just like Osbornes threat of an emergency budget the morning after a VOTE to leave. Not the act of leaving just the act of voting for it.

Are you trying to pretend not to understand cos you'd prefer to join Lancaster Claret and the rest of the dwindling number of bewildered Remoaners wondering why it all hasn't gone wrong yet!

You were so sure that the sky was going to fall in economically, and by now you'd be proven right. Well it simply hasn't happened.

You lost get over it. The future outside the EU is fantastic.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:23 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:18 posts on politics and not a turtles head in sight

Within minutes of the referendum result he was frantically posting graphs tbat proved the economy had collapsed!!!!!

Where are his graphs that show record levels of manufacturing order books since 1988!?

Come on turtles head! Poke your head out and touch some economic cloth!!!

Where's the minute by minute graphs tiger!!!??

What a crazed loner idiot!!

Shhhhhhhhhh

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:26 pm

SammyBoy wrote:Regardless of what George Osborne said prior to the vote, it doesn't mean my comment is any less true. Whichever way you look at it the short term benefits of a weaker GBP will be negated in the long run when manufacturers need to import raw materials, it's just basic economics. However, feel free to deliberately misinterpret this news if that's your bag.

If you want to p*** all over fantastic economic news that's your bag you crack on pal.

BRING OUT YER DEAD......BRING OUT YET DEAD.......

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:41 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Again. It's really not sinking in is it!?

It's not complicated.

Operation Lie promised us economic Armageddon if we simply had the neck to VOTE to leave. We voted Leave and what they said have been proven to be lies. Just like Osbornes threat of an emergency budget the morning after a VOTE to leave. Not the act of leaving just the act of voting for it.

Are you trying to pretend not to understand cos you'd prefer to join Lancaster Claret and the rest of the dwindling number of bewildered Remoaners wondering why it all hasn't gone wrong yet!

You were so sure that the sky was going to fall in economically, and by now you'd be proven right. Well it simply hasn't happened.

You lost get over it. The future outside the EU is fantastic.

Slightly odd that you seem to believe everyone who voted remain believed everything they were told by people like Cameron and Osbourne but there you go.

Good to see you pushing what you interpret to be good news stories while we are still in the EU though.

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:49 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:If you want to p*** all over fantastic economic news that's your bag you crack on pal.

BRING OUT YER DEAD......BRING OUT YET DEAD.......

No it's just that my entire job revolves around importing and exporting so I know how foolish it is to start wetting myself with excitement at what is essentially just a short term effect of currency fluctuation. Given that little to no importing/exporting happens at the job centre I can't imagine you'd understand

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:50 pm

I swear Ringo lives in a different time zone to the rest of us, a Brexit Interstellar if you will.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:53 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Yet there the Tories are, making the UK the laughing stock of the world with their 42.4% share of the vote majority.

by UpTheBeehole
Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:44 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:But Labour mummy, but Labour...

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... 05#p563705

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:55 pm

This is nothing to do with Brexit, but certainly isn't good news for anyone.

https://www.ft.com/content/5aa111ce-c63 ... 2b2cb39656" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:56 pm

Darthlaw wrote:by UpTheBeehole
Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:44 am

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... 05#p563705

I was just showing dsr that majorities aren't always as clear cut as he thinks

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:58 pm

More like you were showing him you don't know how the UK electoral system works. Good chance to have a go at the Tories on a thread which had no previous mention of them though.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 2:59 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:This is nothing to do with Brexit, but certainly isn't good news for anyone.

https://www.ft.com/content/5aa111ce-c63 ... 2b2cb39656" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Blocked, Lancs. What does it say? Unless it's not good news that you have to subscribe to the FT to get their news.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:00 pm

VAT threshold for small businesses might drop in the budget, possibly down to £43000

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:03 pm

Isn't that closer to the EU average threshold? Would that have been enforced on us had we stayed?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:04 pm

1.Yes 2. no!

It will hit small businesses hard though

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:15 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:VAT threshold for small businesses might drop in the budget, possibly down to £43000

This would be good news for the economy. Not only would it raise the £2bn estimated, it might well flush out some duckers and divers who aren't paying much of any kind of tax as they get squeezed into compliance. I have no idea why VAT is not chargeable for gardening services or haircuts if they are a one man band - but once there are two or three people in the company, it is. And no, VAT compliance is not hard - the small-business oriented flat-rate scheme is extremely simple.

I'm surprised the Remainers aren't all in favour of this move; only Singapore has a higher VAT registration threshold than the current UK level and we are constantly being told we must be "not Singapore" in the future. Current EU average is about £25k. Whatever the EU are doing is right, isn't that the theory?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:26 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:I swear Ringo lives in a different time zone to the rest of us, a Brexit Interstellar if you will.

Ringo could lose his house due to Brexit, end up sleeping rough and he’d still celebrate having more fresh air.

Chip Harrison · Post by **Chip Harrison** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:35 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:If you want to p*** all over fantastic economic news that's your bag you crack on pal.

BRING OUT YER DEAD......BRING OUT YET DEAD.......

I'm fairly new on here and don't know all the history of what has gone on before Brexit. But I have one question. Is Ringo a lunatic? Is there a reason why he put "you lost, get over it"?

Strange behaviour.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:44 pm

Chip Harrison wrote:I'm fairly new on here and don't know all the history of what has gone on before Brexit. But I have one question. Is Ringo a lunatic? Is there a reason why he put "you lost, get over it"?

Strange behaviour.

You call it "strange behaviour"

I call it a fact. Each to their own....

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:47 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Ringo could lose his house due to Brexit, end up sleeping rough and he’d still celebrate having more fresh air.

As each day passes the way I voted in the referendum is proven to be best for Britain and it's people. Unlike the, desparate for bad economic news, Lefties on here.

The Left. If they took their policies to the desert. Eventually they'd run out of sand........

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:50 pm

Chip Harrison wrote:I'm fairly new on here and don't know all the history of what has gone on before Brexit. But I have one question. Is Ringo a lunatic? Is there a reason why he put "you lost, get over it"?

Strange behaviour.

Honestly, i think he might be.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:51 pm

How do you think negotiations are going Ringo? Happy with them?
Thoughts on this rumoured £40bn divorce bill?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:52 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:How do you think negotiations are going Ringo? Happy with them?
Thoughts on this rumoured £40bn divorce bill?

Legally we owe nothing!

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:53 pm

Chip Harrison wrote:I'm fairly new on here and don't know all the history of what has gone on before Brexit. But I have one question. Is Ringo a lunatic? Is there a reason why he put "you lost, get over it"?

Strange behaviour.

He's a mentalist.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:55 pm

SammyBoy wrote:No it's just that my entire job revolves around importing and exporting so I know how foolish it is to start wetting myself with excitement at what is essentially just a short term effect of currency fluctuation. Given that little to no importing/exporting happens at the job centre I can't imagine you'd understand

So if it's short term hood news, and the pound rises. It means those imported raw materials that youve convinced yourself we can't survive without. Will be more affordable!!! Weyhey! We win again.

Or would you prefer to wallow in Remoaner self loathing!?

And I'm not employed at the job centre. I've been happily self employed for 10 years. Poor attempt at sneering there!

As for any bed wetting. I'll leave that to the gaggle of hard core Remoaners on here who try and me seize upon anything that can be remotely seen as negative when it come to brexit. They lose all self control.

Bring out yer washing.... Bring out yer washing.....

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:57 pm

I'd love to engage Ringo's self employed services, and then simply not pay him

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:59 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Legally we owe nothing!

HE'S HERE!!!!!

WHERE'S YOUR FAMOUS GRAPHS !!!!

He had them posted on an hourly basis from the turtle bunker when the stock market fell the day after the referendum.

It was unequivocal evidence that the economy had fine what the lying Remoaners had said it would do and crashed!!!

Since its reached record levels he doesn't seen to be able to supply them at such a frantic rate!

Where's the one for the news on manufacturing since 1988 I wonder?

BRING OUT YER GRAPHS...... BRING OUT YER GRAPHS....

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:01 pm

The very fact that Brexit hasn't actually happened yet should be an indicator as to how exactly it's effecting us in the immediate sense. I.E - it isn't really.

Pro's and Con's will only be quantifiable years and years after everything has been sorted out.

All this point scoring is just childish balls for political point scoring, remoaners vs brexiteers etc.

Good read though. 10/10

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:04 pm

Chip Harrison wrote:I'm fairly new on here and don't know all the history of what has gone on before Brexit. But I have one question. Is Ringo a lunatic? Is there a reason why he put "you lost, get over it"?

Strange behaviour.

Judge for yourself, this was peak Ringo on the link

http://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboar ... 07#p568047" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Cryssys · Post by **Cryssys** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:06 pm

Ringo said:

As for any bed wetting. I'll leave that to the gaggle of hard core Remoaners on here who try and me seize upon anything that can be remotely seen as negative when it come to brexit. They lose all self control.

Whereas you would never seize upon anything that could be seen as remotely positive in your support of Brexit would you?

As for you losing all self control, perish the thought!

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:12 pm

Chip Harrison wrote:I'm fairly new on here and don't know all the history of what has gone on before Brexit. But I have one question. Is Ringo a lunatic? Is there a reason why he put "you lost, get over it"?

Strange behaviour.

RM in his current mode reminds of a fellow that lives near me.

I voted 'remain' although I don't pretend I know all there is to know on the subject, or indeed that I'm 'right'. He voted to leave. On the day the result was announced he came up to me and said 'you were wrong' whilst adopting a goal scored celebrating posture.

I just thought 'what a nutter' and walked off.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:13 pm

Chip Harrison wrote:I'm fairly new on here and don't know all the history of what has gone on before Brexit. But I have one question. Is Ringo a lunatic? Is there a reason why he put "you lost, get over it"?

yes. either that or an incoherent babbling pisshead who repeats the same meaningless phrases ad infinitum because he doesn't know how to form a coherent argument or debate in an adult way.