Will 'Dyche Fitness' alone start attracting players?

[Fretters]

I was wondering if Sam Clucas regretted not signing for us when he was being out-run and out-fought on Saturday. Players must see how fit and disciplined our players are and wish they were at those levels. This, coupled with the likes of Defour talking about being in the shape of his life, must be a huge pull for potential signings in January.

Professional athletes surely strive for peak physical condition and, knowing they will achieve that with us, is surely worth more to them than an extra few grand in their bank account at this level. Especially as the majority (if not all) already know they'll never have to work again when they retire.

With all this, and if we can maintain a top 7-10 league position, we must be an incredibly attractive proposition in January.

[RalphCoatesComb]

I was wondering if Sam Clucas regretted not signing for us when he was being out-run and out-fought on Saturday

Thought Clucas was poor on Saturday, then again, almost all of them were poor.

Money will attract people, not the prospect of hard work. Sean will have his eyes and spies on a couple of targets and all will have to be prepared to knuckle down.

[WestMidsClaret]

I think money would be most players primary thought as to being mega physically fit. That's why we have a special group of players because they except Sean's demands on being super fit and will run through brick walls for each other. So any future players we source will know exactly what they are getting themselves in to and will sort the men from the boys. And that's why we are where we are currently in the league and why we are getting a lot of credit in the outside world. Football is really an easy concept that's been over egged these past few years.

So in answer to your question it may not necessarily attract a lot of players but it will attract the right players which is crucial for our club at this present moment in time!

[mickleoverclaret]

Clucas is probably getting paid more for doing less work at Swansea so I doubt he'll be that jealous.

[LeadBelly]

I think money is the key driver. Not only in itself but, to some degree, it signifies how good/valued you are - like in any profession.

I think there's also an element of "stepping stone" involved at BFC. A lot of previously non- "bigtime" players have enhanced their careers here recently and thus enhanced their longer term success/earnings prospects whilst maybe not being amongst the highest paid whilst here.

[KRBFC]

No and I doubt Clucas gives a toss providing hes earning more at Swansea.

[houseboy]

I agree that money is king these days but also, and unfortunately, does anyone else think that the fitness regime at Burnley might actually PUT PLAYERS OFF? Most people like an easy life alas and when you see players willing to sit on the bench week after week at many clubs providing they are getting their 50k plus per week would players suddenly want to start actually EARNING that money by working hard to get in peak physical shape? I'm not saying none would, obviously we have got the players willing to do that, but I think most prima donna PL level players these days are more interested in storing up a bank account for their retirement at 28. Just call me cynical but it might even be why we have had trouble attracting players in the first place, not just the wage cap we have.
I love the players we have and I love the whole Dyche philosophy and long may it continue but it MAY be a contributing factor in our constant inability to 'get our man', not just the money. Having said all that I would rather we bought no-one at all in January than get a single player who would upset what we have.

[Sidney1st]

Nah, European football will though.

[aggi]

Is "Dyche fit" really a thing? Plenty of players are super fit at many clubs.

A fair few clubs cover more distance than Burnley (Bournemouth being top of that table and no-one talks about players being Howe fit) and we're in the bottom half of the table for sprints.

[Lancasterclaret]

I think its a term best used in conjunction with our framework and ethos, and "Dyche Fit" is a snappier way of putting it.

The way we lose possession and then get back into shape is ridiculously impressive. We appear to only need about five seconds to transition, and that is something that is a key part of his (and our) success.

[dsr]

I agree that money is king these days but also, and unfortunately, does anyone else think that the fitness regime at Burnley might actually PUT PLAYERS OFF? Most people like an easy life alas and when you see players willing to sit on the bench week after week at many clubs providing they are getting their 50k plus per week would players suddenly want to start actually EARNING that money by working hard to get in peak physical shape? ...

I think it might - but also, if it puts off players that don't want to do the hard work, then it's a good thing. One of Burnley's big strengths is that none of the players take time off during, or for the whole of, a match.

[houseboy]

I think it might - but also, if it puts off players that don't want to do the hard work, then it's a good thing. One of Burnley's big strengths is that none of the players take time off during, or for the whole of, a match.

It's a strange one really. We know the kind of player we want (or Dyche does) but it must be hard to find 'quality' players who fit that criteria. Personally I like what we have, and I don't want the apple cart upsetting. There's something about the camaraderie between the players that rubs off on the fans and we have a great feeling of 'family' at Burnley because of that. It would be nice to have a couple of 'great' players but would we lose what we have because of that? I don't know.

Off topic a little but speaking of quality players I was watching United last night on the CL highlights and nearly fell off my seat laughing at Fellaini. In a first half dominated by United who failed to score from numerous chances he placed a 'header' onto the post when it would have been easier to score. Watching the replay I noticed that it actually brushed his hair and not his head. If he had made the slightest contact with his head it would have gone in. I figured that he must think that his not inconsiderable mop is an extension of his head - great stuf.

[AndrewJB]

I don't believe money is the be all end all for players who come to Burnley. And I don't whatsoever think that Dyche sells the club on its ability to pay big wages (which, if money were the prime motivator for players, he would do).

If the difference is between living close to poverty, or earning a solid middle class income, then I can understand why someone would choose one job over another based on income. But when we're looking at tens of thousands of pounds per week compared to ten thousand more or less, then it's not nearly the same comparison. It's not about treating players as saps to be taken advantage of, but refusing to participate in the commercial rollercoaster that is footballers pay. I'm quite sure there's an unwritten rule saying: "if you're in football just for the money, then don't bother coming to Burnley"

[Quickenthetempo]

When Everton players got to train under Martinez on 90% ball work after years of demanding physical stuff from Moyes, they seemed to be falling over themselves to speak out about how great training was.

Human traits are to get as much as possible (cash and glory) for as little work as possible.

[bfccrazy]

Could being "extra" fit add a few years to a players career?

Thus earning them a bit more money and also helping prolong that bit that most players say they hate about football ..... Stopping playing.

[boatshed bill]

Clucas is probably getting paid more for doing less work at Swansea so I doubt he'll be that jealous.

But he may have to take a cut when they get relegated.
Fitness, and being on top of your game means top earnings for longer

[mickleoverclaret]

But he may have to take a cut when they get relegated.
Fitness, and being on top of your game means top earnings for longer

Unless he gets sold to another PL team like this year!

[boatshed bill]

Unless he gets sold to another PL team like this year!

Pretty shabby shop window on last week's showing

[Cirrus_Minor]

Saw a newspaper article by Trippier saying when he went to Spurs he was told he was overweight, something about pinching too much body fat. He also said he had been on all inclusive holiday prior to going.

Not sure how this squares up but I think that sometimess underestimate Dyche's organisation skills and put this down due to being super fit.

[IanMcL]

I think its a term best used in conjunction with our framework and ethos, and "Dyche Fit" is a snappier way of putting it.

The way we lose possession and then get back into shape is ridiculously impressive. We appear to only need about five seconds to transition, and that is something that is a key part of his (and our) success.

Like an F1 pit stop!

[boatshed bill]

Going back to the original question:
Any player seeing the revitalisation of Jack Cork would have to be impressed.

[dsr]

Going back to the original question:
Any player seeing the revitalisation of Jack Cork would have to be impressed.

And in reverse, seeing what happened to Michael Keane might make them think as well.

[Shore claret]

I think the warm ups say a lot, I said to my dad look at Swansea warming up it looked ropey at best. Our lads were going 90 mph there lads looked to be just going through the motions.

[CnBtruntru]

Anybody can become fit, I believe they have to have the right attitude, the fitness and the attitude make the player, I don't believe just being fit cuts it with the Gaffer.

[Blackrod]

We can give players an opportunity to play in the PL who might not have done otherwise.
We can give players a chance to prove themselves if they have lost their way at other clubs.
We can coach and improve players.
We have a proven record with strikers and also International call ups.
We can put them in the shop window.
We can reward hard work and patience with game time.

These are some of the benefits of BFC to a player aside from money.

[IndigoLake]

This is true fitness.