Burnley looking at n.ireland winger

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:00 pm

Jordan Jones?

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:15 pm

Looked useful when he came on late in their second leg. Liked to run at his FB.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:17 pm

Has he got pace?

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:47 pm

Can he beat the full back and get a cross in from bye / dead ball line?

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:48 pm

Can he pay on the gate?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:59 pm

Is he as good as Trippier for crosses?

mickleoverclaret · Post by **mickleoverclaret** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:10 pm

Does he like omelettes?

maccclaret · Post by **maccclaret** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:18 pm

Is the pope catholic?

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:30 pm

maccclaret wrote:Is the pope catholic?

I'm not sure about our Nick, but the other Nick Pope (the UFO guy on twitter) is definitely an atheist

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:39 pm

Was at Boro for 3 years and never got a league game, on loan at Harlepool and Cambridge before a move to Kilmarnock in a league where Eagles has just got a contract with Dross County and OC

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:46 pm

Will he wait 18 months ?

mickleoverclaret · Post by **mickleoverclaret** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:46 pm

mdd2 wrote:Was at Boro for 3 years and never got a league game, on loan at Harlepool and Cambridge before a move to Kilmarnock in a league where Eagles has just got a contract with Dross County and OC

To be fair Ashley Barnes has got a contract in a league where Aguero and Kane are kicking about but it doesn't mean they're on the same level.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:00 pm

Dazzler wrote:Has he got pace?

Is he trickier than Tricky Trickster the trickiest puller of tricky tricks?

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:01 pm

If we are looking at a winger from Northern Ireland I'd hope that it is James McClean.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:05 pm

Geoff wrote:If we are looking at a winger from Northern Ireland I'd hope that it is James McClean.

Poppycock!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:09 pm

IanMcL wrote:Is he as good as Trippier for crosses?

Charlie Taylor is.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:43 am

Geoff wrote:If we are looking at a winger from Northern Ireland I'd hope that it is James McClean.

He’s not from Northern Ireland.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:55 am

Socrates wrote:He’s not from Northern Ireland.

He was born in Derry, Northern Ireland.

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:25 am

Socrates wrote:He’s not from Northern Ireland.

I think you need to do some basic geography lessons

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:29 am

Geoff wrote:If we are looking at a winger from Northern Ireland I'd hope that it is James McClean.

Our club doesn't need the controversy or hassle for such an average player.

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 7:47 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:Our club doesn't need the controversy or hassle for such an average player.

I think he is the perfect type of winger for a Sean Dyche team. He certainly has the mentality. If anything his controversies are a bonus as his market value would be well below that of a player of his calibre would otherwise demand.

Interesting article on McClean here -
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Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:05 am

If you've seen James McClean play, you'd have to mad not to see he is the perfect SD player.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:21 am

It might just be me but after watching Ireland the other week I think it's the wrong country to build our team around. We already have plenty of the workers you think Dyche likes.
It's quality we need now to improve us and take us to a level were performances like against Swansea are regular.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:33 am

A quick look at his West Brom stats suggests 4 assists and 3 goals in his first two seasons, with none this year.

https://www.whoscored.com/Players/76050 ... es-McClean" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:36 am

To be fair, its Pulis.

I've seen enough to think he'd be good enough (at the very least) to provide competition for Brady, JBG and Arfield.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:39 am

UpTheClaretsFCBK wrote:He was born in Derry, Northern Ireland.

He was born in Middlesbrough

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:53 am

Classic internet thread.

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:09 am

James McClean.looks like a sending off waiting to happen, every time I've seen him play!

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:13 am

If it's NI wingers we are talking about then I am always impressed with Stuart Dallas whenever I have seen him play (admittedly not more than 4 or 5 times in the last couple of years). He always looks tricky and very quick / direct.

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:05 am

Walton wrote:He was born in Middlesbrough

No, James McClean was born in Derry. He was replying to a poster saying that McClean wasn't from Northern Ireland.

Keep up.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:25 am

Geoff wrote:No, James McClean was born in Derry. He was replying to a poster saying that McClean wasn't from Northern Ireland.

Keep up.

No, the topic is Jordan Jones and you said "If we are looking at a winger from Northern Ireland I'd hope that it is James McClean."

And Socrates said "He’s not from Northern Ireland."

Jordan Jones is from Middlesbrough, and McClean plays for the Republic of Ireland

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:34 am

Walton wrote:No, the topic is Jordan Jones and you said "If we are looking at a winger from Northern Ireland I'd hope that it is James McClean."

And Socrates said "He’s not from Northern Ireland."

Jordan Jones is from Middlesbrough, and McClean plays for the Republic of Ireland

That's all well and good, but where is Stephen Ireland from?

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:37 am

Walton wrote:No, the topic is Jordan Jones and you said "If we are looking at a winger from Northern Ireland I'd hope that it is James McClean."

And Socrates said "He’s not from Northern Ireland."

Jordan Jones is from Middlesbrough.

Who is disputing where Jordan Jones is from? No matter who the thread was about originally I mentioned McClean and Socrates said that he wasn't from Northern Ireland. Then you chirped in. Clueless, as per.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:39 am

Geoff wrote:Who is disputing where Jordan Jones is from? No matter who the thread was about originally I mentioned McClean and Socrates said that he wasn't from Northern Ireland. Then you chirped in. Clueless, as per.

But we aren't looking at a winger from Northern Ireland, we're looking at a winger from Middlesbrough

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:39 am

MACCA wrote:That's all well and good, but where is Stephen Ireland from?

Ireland

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:42 am

Walton wrote:But we aren't looking at a winger from Northern Ireland, we're looking at a winger from Middlesbrough

Great, glad you cleared that one up.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:44 am

Just a thought but there was a discussion on here recently about the dreaded 'stats' and it was suggested that goals don't come predominantly from crosses (not my idea I hasten to add), if that is the case (and I'm only asking) why do we keep demanding a 'fast pacey winger who can get to the byline'? It doesn't seem to figure too much in the Dyche style but as I asked at the time is that because Dyche doesn't believe in crosses or just that we play that way because we haven't got a 'true' winger who can do that?
Any ideas?

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:48 am

Walton wrote:But we aren't looking at a winger from Northern Ireland, we're looking at a winger from Middlesbrough

So is Middlesbrough in Ireland? Or is he an Irish Smoggie?

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:56 am

The real question is does Jones wear a poppy or not surely?

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:39 pm

houseboy wrote:Just a thought but there was a discussion on here recently about the dreaded 'stats' and it was suggested that goals don't come predominantly from crosses (not my idea I hasten to add), if that is the case (and I'm only asking) why do we keep demanding a 'fast pacey winger who can get to the byline'? It doesn't seem to figure too much in the Dyche style but as I asked at the time is that because Dyche doesn't believe in crosses or just that we play that way because we haven't got a 'true' winger who can do that?
Any ideas?

To get goals from crosses?

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:03 pm

Hipper wrote:To get goals from crosses?

Ah but does Uncle Sean sit at home thinking, 'WTF do I need a winger for? Wingers are old hat. Goals don't come from crosses. That reminds me I must tell Big Sam that, odd how most of his goals come from crosses, I don't think he realises that goals don't come about because of people getting behind defenders and putting in crosses'.

Or does he sit there going, 'I wish we could afford a good pacey winger who can deliver pinpoint crosses to target men like Big Sam. I'm sick and tired of pretending I don't like crosses into the box because we haven't sodding well got anyone who can do it'.

Yes folks, another slow day at work (it's the time of year).

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:19 pm

Whatever happened to the Irish striker we were supposedly signing from Shamrock? Did he eventually sign?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:33 pm

It is easier to attack down the wings as there is space with the fullback tucked in and one to one marking at most. Down the centre the two CHs can control the one CF easier. Most teams get down the wing and cut back inside rather than cross, but it could be down to the lack of quality in crossing ability these days.

Plus it's about 70% chance of you losing your keeping possession stat and that's all that matters to some.