It's about time Burnley's beggars raised their game .

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It's about time Burnley's beggars raised their game .

Post by bfcjg » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:33 pm

Pathetic bunch. Sitting there on the floor hat or old polystyrene cup in front of them just mumbling something about change. Where is their motivation? Where is their desire to entertain ? Where is the cute dog ?Where is the attempt to at least play a mouth organ ?Where is their attempt to sing ? I was embarressed today coming off the Turf with an ex colleague from the Midlands who expect and gets a better standard of beggar.Shape up or ship out.

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Re: It's about time Burnley's beggars raised their game .

Post by Saxoman » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:35 pm

Show your father some respect!
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Post by randomclaret2 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:39 pm

Nice to see the Christmas spirit alive and well
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Post by bfcjg » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:43 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Nice to see the Christmas spirit alive and well
Here here. As a nation productivity is suffering due to the skills required in a modern high tech economy not being as good as our competitors. Can you imagine a German or Japanese beggar just sitting there ?

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Re: It's about time Burnley's beggars raised their game .

Post by randomclaret2 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:46 pm

Youve lost me tbh...

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Re: It's about time Burnley's beggars raised their game .

Post by bfcjg » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:04 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Youve lost me tbh...
They want me to give them money for doing F all. The least I expect back is effort. Last month I had to do a four day training course to qualify for a salary increase in the region if 1.7% therefore my usual fifty pence in the hat should go up by a penny or so therefore I ask again what has the beggar done to justify it ?

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Post by randomclaret2 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:12 pm

Im with you now.Maybe you could swap places with them seeing as they have it so easy. Tonight might be a good time to start. .... minus 6 overnight.
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Post by bfcjg » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:16 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:Im with you now.Maybe you could swap places with them seeing as they have it so easy. Tonight might be a good time to start. .... minus 6 overnight.
Hmmmm. Do you honestly believe they are really homeless or just using the cash to buy booze or drugs ? Tell you what I'll swop places with any of the homeless that you don't offer to take in tonight for a good night sleep and some wholesome food.

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Re: It's about time Burnley's beggars raised their game .

Post by BabylonClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:17 pm

That's assuming that they're really homeless. Most homeless charities agree that 90% of beggars on streets aren't actually homeless.
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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:17 pm

bfcjg wrote:Hmmmm. Do you honestly believe they are really homeless or just using the cash to buy booze or drugs ? Tell you what I'll swop places with any of the homeless that you don't offer to take in tonight for a good night sleep and some wholesome food.
I'd guess at a split. Some will, some won't. The problem is, you never really know who is sleeping under cardboard and who is begging and then going back to their 2 bedroomed flat.

But I do often wonder, how... or better still, why, should a homeless person have a dog. If they can't pay for themselves correctly, they shouldn't be allowed to look after a dog.
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Re: It's about time Burnley's beggars raised their game .

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:19 pm

Maybe they should be taxed on their earnings.

That'll motivate em.

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Post by randomclaret2 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:21 pm

There but for the grace of God

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Post by bfcjg » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:23 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Maybe they should be taxed on their earnings.

That'll motivate em.
Nah I always gift aid my donations.
TBH I once got told to feck off one i gave one a pie and a brew .

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Post by MACCA » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:26 pm

I used to love the old flute and rat combo, used to make me part with at least ten bob.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:31 pm

When I'm on a night out in Leeds and I get a hotdog/burger from a random van, I'll often buy one for someone sat on the streets. Giving them money just seems daft, as I'm sure a lot of them are addicted to drugs.

I doubt the dealer will accept a a beef burger with a slathering of mustard and barbecue sauce.

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Post by Spijed » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:31 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:That's assuming that they're really homeless. Most homeless charities agree that 90% of beggars on streets aren't actually homeless.
Yes, I found out last year that by putting on a few old clothes, sitting in Oxford street and just begging with a polystyrene cup I could earn over £30k, before tax.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:34 pm

Spijed wrote:Yes, I found out last year that by putting on a few old clothes, sitting in Oxford street and just begging with a polystyrene cup I could earn over £30k, before tax.
Pause the tape!

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Post by ClaretFelix » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:35 pm

There only used to be one male, whom I'm sure most people would recognise, that was genuinely sleeping under cardboard boxes round the back of the probation office. I think he has somewhere to stop now.
For these people who are regularly out begging in Burnley town centre, they have a roof over their heads and their lifestyle is no doubt down to choices they have made in the past

Trust me, they certainly have access to money

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:05 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:That's assuming that they're really homeless. Most homeless charities agree that 90% of beggars on streets aren't actually homeless.
Trying to work out if this is a serious post.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:08 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Trying to work out if this is a serious post.
The Telegraph has a story 'Police survey finds just one in 10 beggars are homeless' - the site isn't loading up though when I checked.

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Post by TsarBomba » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:12 pm

There’s a chap on the streets in Maidstone with a ferret on a lead.

He gets a bit of dosh, and we get to see a ferret on a lead.

Everybody’s happy.
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Post by Spiral » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:14 pm

And there's me thinking charity is supposed to be unconditional, like. I've been a mug all my life.

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Re: It's about time Burnley's beggars raised their game .

Post by Rowls » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:27 am

Please don't give money to beggars.

Give donations to homelessness charities instead.

They're not perfect but the money will at least go towards providing genuine help.

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Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:39 am

Rowls wrote:Please don't give money to beggars.
Give donations to homelessness charities instead.
They're not perfect but the money will at least go towards providing genuine help.
So what is the best response?

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Post by Rowls » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:08 am

FactualFrank wrote:So what is the best response?
Rowls wrote:Give donations to homelessness charities instead.

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Post by Rowls » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:08 am

A firm but polite 'no' is the best response.

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Post by bfcjg » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:38 am

TsarBomba wrote:There’s a chap on the streets in Maidstone with a ferret on a lead.

He gets a bit of dosh, and we get to see a ferret on a lead.

Everybody’s happy.
Thats the ticket a bit of effort a bit of entertainment. Skill up beggars and your earnings will rise accordingly. Best one i have ever seen was on the front at Playa Blanca stones mounted on top of each other, sand sculpture, accordian and a small cute goat for the kids. Worth the five euros i gave him. Initiative and something for all the family.

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Post by scouseclaret » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:46 am

Bit of Pie...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jIRht6O7sCQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by bfcjg » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:01 am

scouseclaret wrote:Bit of Pie...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jIRht6O7sCQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
His house must be crowded with the numbers he has taken in. Most of them on the streets are the ones even housing associations have given up on due to anti social behaviour, rent arrears they get the housing benefit paid to them then don't pay the rent and trashing properties.

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Post by bfcjg » Sat May 19, 2018 11:53 am

A very heart warming sight this morning,outside Aldi the one nearest the town centre sat a chap polite,clean, with a small tub for donations but he was doing something he was playing an accordian in tune and the music befitting a nice sunny day. Not being a hypocrite I gave him a pound (well you have to get rid of the old ones somehow) when he thanked me he was obviously foreign taking full advantage of the free movement of people filling the skills gap because our beggars are lazy and need to raise their collective game.
Bravo to him though.

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Post by hampsteadclaret » Sat May 19, 2018 12:45 pm

Looked at the thread title and pretty much knew what was coming.

First of all I have no time for proper skiving wasters.

Many people have genuinely fallen on hard times though, often just a victim of circumstance and bad luck, and struggling as a result of welfare cuts, austerity and a complete 100% absence of that pile of bolllox usually referred to as ‘the trickle-down effect..’ ( what a lie and a con that has been since Day One).

Predictably a few on here love to have a go at those who are struggling and begging, because they can then look down on them, and therefore feel much better about themselves.

This is a very wealthy country and we should do much better for those who are worse off, and in need of some help.

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Post by CaptJohn » Sat May 19, 2018 12:54 pm

My wife always gives to the chap under the walkway to the bus station after the game. The amount she gives depends upon how many goals are scored in the match. He did well when we beat Sunderland 4-1 last season :o

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Post by joey13 » Sat May 19, 2018 12:55 pm

I saw a better class of beggar in Bournemouth, two of them had IPhones
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Post by RingoMcCartney » Sat May 19, 2018 1:02 pm

bfcjg wrote:Pathetic bunch. Sitting there on the floor hat or old polystyrene cup in front of them just mumbling something about change. Where is their motivation? Where is their desire to entertain ? Where is the cute dog ?Where is the attempt to at least play a mouth organ ?Where is their attempt to sing ? I was embarressed today coming off the Turf with an ex colleague from the Midlands who expect and gets a better standard of beggar.Shape up or ship out.
I was out on the beer in town with a mate of mine. As we made our way from the red lion towards the big window, I gave a lad who was begging a couple o quid.

My mate said "why are you giving him that? He's only gonna blow it on fags, drink n drugs!"

"It's only what you're about to do" I replied.

Before you condemn somebody for the plight they find themselves in. Spend a day in their shoes and live a day in their life.
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Post by bfcjg » Sat May 19, 2018 1:08 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:I was out on the beer in town with a mate of mine. As we made our way from the red lion towards the big window, I gave a lad who was begging a couple o quid.

My mate said "why are you giving him that? He's only gonna blow it on fags, drink n drugs!"

"It's only what you're about to do" I replied.

Before you condemn somebody for the plight they find themselves in. Spend a day in their shoes and live a day in their life.
So how comfortable were IT's moccasins ?
Also giving cash feeds the heroin Markey buying a pint doesn't.

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Post by RingoMcCartney » Sat May 19, 2018 1:18 pm

bfcjg wrote:So how comfortable were IT's moccasins ?
Also giving cash feeds the heroin Markey buying a pint doesn't.
True. But behind that addiction could be a tragic life. All I'm saying is don't judge and condemn.

They weren't moccasins.

His stilettos were 2 sizes too small!
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Post by kentonclaret » Sat May 19, 2018 2:14 pm

Turfed out of Windsor because beggars were not invited to the "people's wedding" now you want them thrown out of Burnley. :?

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Post by conyoviejo » Sat May 19, 2018 2:14 pm

Anybody been to Southampton? The Mecca of Beggars....Around the centre there's one every five yards on a good day..

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Post by tim_noone » Sat May 19, 2018 2:55 pm

joey13 wrote:I saw a better class of beggar in Bournemouth, two of them had IPhones
That made me :lol: :lol:

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Post by bfcjg » Sat May 19, 2018 3:50 pm

kentonclaret wrote:Turfed out of Windsor because beggars were not invited to the "people's wedding" now you want them thrown out of Burnley. :?
I want them to skill up. Just read some of the contributions ferret on a lead accordian playing beggars with iphones these things don't just happen by chance they have worked damned hard to con the gullible amongst society they are in need of your cash and such dedication deserves a quid or two.

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Post by Tribesmen » Sat May 19, 2018 4:43 pm

My fav was when i was in San Diego last year . On the waterfront was quite a few pan handlers one was sat next to a drinks machine . Now he unpluged the machine and had his phone on charge did make me smile .

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Post by Burnley Ace » Sat May 19, 2018 6:04 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:
Before you condemn somebody for the plight they find themselves in. Spend a day in their shoes and live a day in their life.
Be a drug addict/alcoholic taking money off people who have less than me? What's not to condem?

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat May 19, 2018 6:24 pm

Its about time they moved with the times and got chip and pin machines. Who carries loose change?
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Post by Top Claret » Sun May 20, 2018 12:33 pm

This begging lark is getting out of hand, every Tom, Dick and Harry is up to it.
My ex next door neighbour was a top begger, he used to go down London on the beg around Langhams and all the other top west end restaurants, he would travel back on a Sunday by train 1st class

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