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Post by thatdberight » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:18 am

Always thought it looked tough going. Turns out they've pretty much all got acute asthma. I might have a go at the Tour next year since I haven't got asthma. I reckon that gives me a head start. Unless, of course, they haven't really got asthma at all. I'll know better after the first stage.
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Re: Cycling

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:07 am

The French press and the Guardian will be going for the jugular on this with Froome and Sky

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Re: Cycling

Post by piston broke » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:11 am

thatdberight wrote:Always thought it looked tough going. Turns out they've pretty much all got acute asthma. I might have a go at the Tour next year since I haven't got asthma. I reckon that gives me a head start. Unless, of course, they haven't really got asthma at all. I'll know better after the first stage.
This is not just cyclists. Footballers and athletes also abuse this ridiculous rule.
If you suffer from asthma then suffer, you are not a world class athlete.
Drug free sport should be drug free.

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Re: Cycling

Post by piston broke » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:08 am

It has reached the stage where you shouldn't go to your own doctor but a neutral race doctor appointed by the UCI or WADA.

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Re: Cycling

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:19 am

piston broke wrote:It has reached the stage where you shouldn't go to your own doctor but a neutral race doctor appointed by the UCI or WADA.
Agree - should have been like that for years now in reality

On a side note it would be interesting to correlate the one day of 21 he failed the test to his performance that day and the time to when he took his "allowed" dose and when he actually supplied the sample
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Re: Cycling

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:20 am

All I'd say is that you have to be whiter than white, especially if you criticize other cyclists of the same thing you've been found guilty of.

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Re: Cycling

Post by piston broke » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:29 am

Chester Perry wrote:Agree - should have been like that for years now in reality

On a side note it would be interesting to correlate the one day of 21 he failed the test to his performance that day and the time to when he took his "allowed" dose and when he actually supplied the sample
I was wondering that. He had a poor finish on Cumbre Del Sol, his only poor day. I'd be very suspicious if it was the next day.

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Re: Cycling

Post by Winstonswhite » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:49 am

What did Shane Sutton say in that recent BBC doc- something along the lines of “do anything as long as it’s within the rules”. The rules allow treatment of asthma up to a limit. He was over the limit on one of the 21 days which to me suggests they’re working the system on the thinnest of thin lines.

It’s reminiscent of the old EPO rules where you were allowed up to 50% red blood cells so everyone raced on 49% to avoid suspension.

It’s so disheartening and I agree with above that surely independent doctors are needed for any medical conditions.

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Re: Cycling

Post by Foulthrow » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:57 am

Isn't there something were you can develop asthma when you really push the body endurance wise? That might - partly - explain the amount of people requiring asthma medication.

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Re: Cycling

Post by Chester Perry » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:57 am

The failed test was from 7th September - Stage 18 - Froome finished that day 10:08 back from the winner on the day but crucially clawed back to Contador and regained much of his time lost to Niballi in the preceeding Mountain stage. That said much of the work was done by Moscon and Poels

http://www.cyclingnews.com/vuelta-a-esp ... 8/results/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Cycling

Post by thatdberight » Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:42 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Isn't there something were you can develop asthma when you really push the body endurance wise? That might - partly - explain the amount of people requiring asthma medication.
Froome claims to have suffered with it since childhood.

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Re: Cycling

Post by Espia » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:41 pm

To make it less complicated they should ban all potentially performance enhancing drugs. Endurance cycling is largely down to physiology .... so if yours isn't up to it due to some ailment then tough ... that's the way the cookie crumbles.

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Re: Cycling

Post by Chester Perry » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:58 am

Chester Perry wrote:Agree - should have been like that for years now in reality

On a side note it would be interesting to correlate the one day of 21 he failed the test to his performance that day and the time to when he took his "allowed" dose and when he actually supplied the sample
Seems like at least one medical professional shares my curiosity - this is going to run and run -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2017 ... emarkable/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

interesting that he doesn't believe this drug is performance enhancing

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Re: Cycling

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:50 am

Chester Perry wrote:The French press and the Guardian will be going for the jugular on this with Froome and Sky

Just out of curiousity, what has The Guardian got to do with this ?

I would imagine the press of all the major cycling nations will be all over this not just the French.

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Re: Cycling

Post by Garnerssoap » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:11 am

Will I have to pay my winnings back

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