Never a penalty...he threw himself down

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Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:40 pm

more cheating....what an absolute joke.
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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:41 pm

sky pundits including graham poll need to go to spec savers....surely a player has to make contact for a penalty ?

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by joey13 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:42 pm

He did make contact

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:43 pm

with what ?

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:44 pm

Despicable character that Dele Ali - definite dive, although BT commentators appear to have sand in their eyes!

He won't get a three match ban though

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:45 pm

Joey...you need to watch it again mate.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Foshiznik » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:46 pm

It was definitely a penalty. Kevin Long has been found out a few times already tonight.
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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by joey13 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:47 pm

happyclaret17 wrote:Joey...you need to watch it again mate.
It’s a definite penalty, you need to watch it

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:48 pm

Belgianclaret wrote:Despicable character that Dele Ali - definite dive, although BT commentators appear to have sand in their eyes!

He won't get a three match ban though

Two game maximum.

If pundits want to go into if it should be a penalty technically Alli and Kane should not be playing.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:50 pm

All I’ll say is Newton’s 3rd law
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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:50 pm

several times this year our defenders have given the opponents the opportunity to cheat....they shouldnt be making challenges in wide areas of the penalty box near to the goal line...should just get their bodies between them and goal and try to usher away from the box...its just an excuse for the opposition to cheat.
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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:52 pm

completely disagree Joey...he threw himself over even before any sort of challenge...there was absolute minimal contact after that.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by thelifeofbrian » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:52 pm

Long didn't need to make the challenge or contact with Dele Ali as he was going away from goal..............he did make contact and ALI made the most of it-...........Its a penalty unfortunately and poor defending.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by MACCA » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:54 pm

August coming home to roost

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:55 pm

Was on his way down long before Long went towards him, hooks his left leg under Long - don't even think there was contact prior to his tumble

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:55 pm

For the last ******* time

Contact should not equal penalty.
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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:55 pm

what did he make contact with ? I have watched it at least 5 times....yes they touch but Long didnt pull him or touch him prior to him throwing himself over ?

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by JimmyRobbo » Sat Dec 23, 2017 5:56 pm

I have watched it, a few times. I can understand why it was given but Ali was going to ground miles before any contact was made, if any actually was made.

Cheating dive. Long had no need to do it.

I bet we wouldn't have had it given for us, but who knows, there's no parallel universe.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:00 pm

I also understand why a ref would give it....he sees a leg going across and an attacker going to ground....we have been victim of this cheating too many times....our Sean is going to be spitting feathers if that goal costs us today.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by MACCA » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:05 pm

It'll be at least 3, so the penalty is irrelevant

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by thelifeofbrian » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:09 pm

happyclaret17 wrote:several times this year our defenders have given the opponents the opportunity to cheat....they shouldnt be making challenges in wide areas of the penalty box near to the goal line...should just get their bodies between them and goal and try to usher away from the box...its just an excuse for the opposition to cheat.
I agree- we need to be smarter

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by thelifeofbrian » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:11 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:For the last ******* time

Contact should not equal penalty.
agree but if we dont make contact there would be no penalty..........

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:14 pm

wish we still had Gerry Gow....I would bring him on for last 3 minutes and get him to kick Ali into the James Hargreaves upper.
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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:28 pm

Slowmo proves to me that it was a dive

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by conyoviejo » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:29 pm

Phook me you lot..It was a definite penalty,if it was the other way round you would have been screaming blue murder if it wasn't given.. Spurs are far the better side and if we are going to get anything out of this game we need to get hold of the ball and start playing some decent football. Just my take on it..lol

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by LoveCurryPies » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:30 pm

Long made a stupid challenge. Move on.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:31 pm

even Gerard and Janus need their eyes testing...and both advocating cheating as well....not sure how big a monitor they are looking at but both saying that their was contact on his knee....just cannot see any no matter how many times I view it...Ali caught longs calf with his trailing leg and that was that......stupid by long to try and have a nibble in an area that wasnt going to be an obvious goal threat.
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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by BFCmaj » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:33 pm

First time I saw it I thought it was a penalty but when watching the replays Alli was going down before any sort of contact with Long. The way the game is now, that will be given as a penalty, but it’s this sort of “gamesmanship” that infuriates me and the majority of people on here. It’s the fact that you can cheat to “win” a penalty and it’s not seen as cheating.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:33 pm

some people need to be reminded it's a contact sport

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:33 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Phook me you lot..It was a definite penalty,if it was the other way round you would have been screaming blue murder if it wasn't given.. Spurs are far the better side and if we are going to get anything out of this game we need to get hold of the ball and start playing some decent football. Just my take on it..lol
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no it wasnt.....as clear a dive as you will see....I am sure some footage from behind the goal will prove this conclusively....completely positive.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:35 pm

Daft challenge. But as soon as he came near, Alli threw himself down.

But yes, we'd have wanted it, had it been up the other end.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by JimmyRobbo » Sat Dec 23, 2017 6:51 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Phook me you lot..It was a definite penalty,if it was the other way round you would have been screaming blue murder if it wasn't given.. Spurs are far the better side and if we are going to get anything out of this game we need to get hold of the ball and start playing some decent football. Just my take on it..lol
You've got a point but, being level-headed about it, Alli dived before Long got anywhere near him. I may have been claiming a penalty had it been at the other end, but very much tongue in cheek as it wasn't dangerous and it was a laughable dive. I said so immediately, and having seen a number of replays, still think it is not a penalty.

They get given, but the number of times the big clubs get them given at our expense and not in our favour is what really gets my goat. It's life. it's football.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Corky » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:40 pm

For what its worth; my son tells me that the guys on Sky Sport said Alli was going down before contact was made. Ergo a dive.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:43 pm

Looked like a dive but I haven't seen a replay yet.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:44 pm

he went down faster than monica lewinsky.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Erasmus » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:45 pm

Definitely a dive, he saw leg outstretched and jumped into it. Alli made contact with Long deliberately. The same as Lanzini's. That's three bad penalties gone against us recently. We got away with one against Liverpool but we were denied one against West Ham that was much more of a pen than any of these last three.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by claretdj » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:46 pm

Alli n Kane should of both not played today, but again a ref Mr Lawson last week @ city bottled it n only gave the England pin up boys only yellows..

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by taio » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:47 pm

Need to see it back so could have been wrong at the time when I thought it was a clear penalty.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by MACCA » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:50 pm

If Burnley fans think it was a pen, how do you expect a neutral independent panel of 3 to see it...

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 23, 2017 7:56 pm

Seen the replay another appalling dive.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by RammyClaret61 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:01 pm

Clear dive. Long prods for the ball, makes contact with nothing. Alli goes down of his own will, making contact with Longs leg halfway down. Cheated again.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Commy » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:03 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... pitch.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They say it's a dive.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:09 pm

MACCA wrote:If Burnley fans think it was a pen, how do you expect a neutral independent panel of 3 to see it...
You’d expect a neutral independent panel to know about the rules of the game, unlike some Burnley fans

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:09 pm

It was a dive no debate about it. Nothing will happen though.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by MACCA » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:10 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:You’d expect a neutral independent panel to know about the rules of the game, unlike some Burnley fans
What did you think of Demari Gray the other night?

Me being a neutral though complete dive, panel voted inconclusive...

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:11 pm

unfortunately it was a penalty, contact was made and ref was correct.

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by taio » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:12 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:You’d expect a neutral independent panel to know about the rules of the game, unlike some Burnley fans
Some Burnley fans along with Oliver havent had the benefit of a replay yet, which of course the panel will have.
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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by Rick_Muller » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:13 pm

MACCA wrote:What did you think of Demari Gray the other night?

Me being a neutral though complete dive, panel voted inconclusive...
I’m with you mate, absolute dive and cheating all round - the panel got it wrong, and they will again. I was trying to be ironic and funny, failed didn’t I...

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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by happyclaret17 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:15 pm

people posting on this thread that it was a clear pen must have been on their works do today.....have some black coffee and wait until the blurred vision has gone before re watching the dive.
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Re: Never a penalty...he threw himself down

Post by MACCA » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:18 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:I’m with you mate, absolute dive and cheating all round - the panel got it wrong, and they will again. I was trying to be ironic and funny, failed didn’t I...
Ha ha ha

The panel are crap. If any contact is made it's no dive. How a defender cannot make any contact whilst trying to win the ball makes the rule laughable.

If you can't make contact at all, you'd have to not be within a yard at any time.
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