Player contracts

FeedTheArf · Post by **FeedTheArf** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:19 pm

Just having a look through the squad list and players who are coming out of contract this summer

Arfield: could sign a pre-contract with Rangers/Celtic or even an MLS club with his Canadian connections within a matter of days. Would hope we'd be offering him at least a 2 year deal as he never lets us down when called on.

Marney: difficult one. Can't see many clubs being interested in him until he proves his fitness which he's unlikely to do for us with Westwood first in line and unless there are injuries/suspensions I can't see us changing the central midfielders. However he's signed contract extensions for us when he's been injured in the past so can see him getting another 12 months.

Ulvestad: released

Lindegaard: released assuming that Heaton recovers

Mitchell: possibly another 12 months to develop

The bigger concern is players expiring in 2019; Mee, Tarks, Hendrick, Vokes, Barnes... going to be a busy time for Dave Baldwin!

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:22 pm

Arfield is playing first team football in the PL.

Marney will retire

Ulvestad will be released

Lindegaard will possibly be kept on, dependent on Heaton. He's well above Legzdins anyway.

Mitchell released

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:24 pm

Why will Marney retire?

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:31 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:The bigger concern is players expiring in 2019; Mee, Tarks, Hendrick, Vokes, Barnes... going to be a busy time for Dave Baldwin!

These should be being dealt with now. No way can we let contracts of these players get down to the last 12 months. That would be poor from the club...but I expect there’ll be announcements throughout January on contract extensions if the club are on this (which i’m Sure they are).

1989_claret · Post by **1989_claret** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:36 pm

Not like the club to not be proactive with contracts is it and then risk having to sell our best players the summer before their contract expires...

turfytopper · Post by **turfytopper** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:37 pm

Marney retire? LOL

He'll be offered a new deal. Long live the king.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:38 pm

Foulthrow wrote:Why will Marney retire?

Out of contract, no clubs willing to take a risk on a bloke who's had a series of serious knee injuries, 34 years old, very rich man.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:50 pm

As popular as he is, I just can't see us offering Marney another deal. Realistically he's probably 5th choice centre mid now, behind even Westwood in the pecking order and I just don't see him getting the chance to play enough games to prove himself.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:52 pm

I'd be very surprised if we offered Deano another contract, unless its on the some sort of coaching thingy like Duff.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:57 pm

The club will be trying to get Tarkowski to sign a new contract.

Whether he will is an entirely different matter.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:00 pm

I'd be offering Tarkowski, Gudmundsson, Mee, Heaton, Defour etc an extra couple of years on their contracts. Got to protect your most saleable assets

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:19 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I'd be offering Tarkowski, Gudmundsson, Mee, Heaton, Defour etc an extra couple of years on their contracts. Got to protect your most saleable assets

Especially now we can virtually guarantee 18 months of PL football where other clubs sniffing can't.

Tarks obviously a different story

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:10 pm

jrgbfc wrote:As popular as he is, I just can't see us offering Marney another deal. Realistically he's probably 5th choice centre mid now, behind even Westwood in the pecking order and I just don't see him getting the chance to play enough games to prove himself.

Different style of player to Westwood.
I'd bring Westwood on to replace Cork and Dean to replace Defour........both in an emergency.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:15 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:
Mitchell released

What has happened to Mitchell?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:25 pm

boatshed bill wrote:What has happened to Mitchell?

He had his loan at Chester terminated after only 8 starts in 22 games.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 2:59 pm

The great thing we have going for us is that players at the Turf now appear to have a wonderful working environment. Facilities, starting place, culture, team spirit, settled manager and club on an upwards curve.

We may find that some choose not to move on whereas they would have in the past.

Obviously, a top player being offered double wages elsewhere would be tough to retain, but if (for sake of argument) it is £10k p.w. different, we may keep them.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:11 pm

1989_claret wrote:Not like the club to not be proactive with contracts is it and then risk having to sell our best players the summer before their contract expires...

Is that a backhanded swipe at us losing the likes of Gray, Keane Ings Boyd?
Having spent a few bob getting them in I doubt the Club just sits on its butt as the clock ticks towards midnight.
If some of our players want out-there is j**k s**t the Board can do about it.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:17 pm

piston broke wrote:Different style of player to Westwood.
I'd bring Westwood on to replace Cork and Dean to replace Defour........both in an emergency.

If anything Westwood is more like Defour as he is more of a passer. Dean is probably more like cork as he will really make tackles and get stuck in...

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:22 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I'd be offering Tarkowski, Gudmundsson, Mee, Heaton, Defour etc an extra couple of years on their contracts. Got to protect your most saleable assets

I'm pretty sure the club will begin contract talks when there's X months left on a player's contract.

If they don't want to renew, we'll no doubt try and sell at the end of this season. But I'd like to think they'll all agree 2+ year extensions if we want to keep them on. If Tarkowski doesn't, then it'll be like Keane. Sell for £30+ million and bring somebody else in.

Some decisions for the club are made for them.

Stockbrokerbelt · Post by **Stockbrokerbelt** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:32 pm

Dyche said that contract situations were being dealt with, he also said they continually keep discussions ongoing with players & their agents on Clarets player a few weeks ago.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 3:33 pm

Stockbrokerbelt wrote:he also said they continually keep discussions ongoing with players & their agents on Clarets player a few weeks ago.

Can't they do it on the phone or in person, instead?

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:01 pm

In regards to Marney his next contract will be his last chance of getting a decent one so he may well choose to move on to get more than 1-2yrs.
No issue if that's the case, will always be held in high regard.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:06 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:He had his loan at Chester terminated after only 8 starts in 22 games.

That doesn't sound too good.
He is held in high regard by the Irish manager though

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:22 pm

FactualFrank wrote:If Tarkowski doesn't, then it'll be like Keane. Sell for £30+ million and bring somebody else in.

You mean as a backup for Kevin Long?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:36 pm

1989_claret wrote:Not like the club to not be proactive with contracts is it and then risk having to sell our best players the summer before their contract expires...

Incredible comment - you would think that all the club have to do is click their fingers. We worked tirelessly on trying to get such as Ings, Keane, Gray to sign new deals. You can lead the horse to water but ......

Other clubs find themselves in the same position simply because the players, and their agents, have the power.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:40 pm

boatshed bill wrote:That doesn't sound too good.
He is held in high regard by the Irish manager though

UptheBeehole enjoys twisting facts to make the club look bad.

Mitchell was unavailable for a number of those games because of international calls during each of the three windows. Chester then brought in a new manager who opted to bring in another goalkeeper who he could have for longer.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:22 pm

Very worrying that Mee, Tarks, JBG and Defour all expire in 2019. Hope we get news about this soon.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 7:13 pm

Iloveyoubrady wrote:If anything Westwood is more like Defour as he is more of a passer. Dean is probably more like cork as he will really make tackles and get stuck in...

I was thinking more in terms of Westwood sitting and Dean making the energy runs forward but I get your point.

deanothedino · Post by **deanothedino** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:47 pm

One thing in our favour with Tarkowski is that he wouldn't move to a London club, or any club too far from home

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:20 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:Very worrying that Mee, Tarks, JBG and Defour all expire in 2019. Hope we get news about this soon.

Why is it worrying? None of us have a clue what progress might be being made on new contracts.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:18 am

ClaretTony wrote:Why is it worrying? None of us have a clue what progress might be being made on new contracts.

Some people enjoy worrying.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:22 pm

Time to extend the contracts of those who may get to a point where it is possible to run them down.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:36 pm

I can see Marney going out on loan in January to get first team football and fully rehabilitated. What happens after that may well depend on who else comes and goes.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:44 pm

If Deano's knee is fine, then that will do for me, new one/two year deal, he hasn't had much football in the last three years, so could be useful.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:56 pm

I would sign Scotty up for another two years. We may well sign more players in his position, but his versatility and willingness to be a squad player make him ideal for the bench at worst as he can cover a few positions and never lets us down.

I would, sadly, probably release Deano. He has been unbelievable for us but he is 33 and has had quite a few injuries over the last few seasons. I can see a George Boyd type scenario with him in that he will probably get some decent Championship offers due to his promotion record with us and Hull.

As said above though, the bigger consideration is the 2019 ones. We should be doing everything we can to tie down the likes of Defour and JBG, for sure.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:48 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:He had his loan at Chester terminated after only 8 starts in 22 games.

Conor Mitchell sent off in the U23 game

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:14 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Arfield is playing first team football in the PL.

Marney will retire

Ulvestad will be released

Lindegaard will possibly be kept on, dependent on Heaton. He's well above Legzdins anyway.

Mitchell released

Lindegaard signs 1yr extension

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:38 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Lindegaard signs 1yr extension

Interesting - perhaps the club is expecting a bid for one of the first choice keepers?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:47 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:Interesting - perhaps the club is expecting a bid for one of the first choice keepers?

It's because Legzdins is nowhere near good enough to be 3rd choice, and they couldnt risk it.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:04 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:It's because Legzdins is nowhere near good enough to be 3rd choice, and they couldnt risk it.

And yet we paid actual money to sign Legzdins!! He’s not even good enough to be 3rd choice...

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:18 pm

Haven't tarks and Barnes signed new deals?

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:19 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:And yet we paid actual money to sign Legzdins!! He’s not even good enough to be 3rd choice...

When you have £90 in your pocket, £0.13 is still 'actual money'

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:20 am

The names of our squad sound wonderful, but probably only in the context of Burnley football club.
Recent history shows diminishing returns for the few who have jumped or been pushed.
Burnley is THE place to be, not some backwater , where the ambitious are seeking to progress by moving elsewhere anymore.
Older players , or non regulars may see the sense in shipping out, but not so much the ones who have made a name for themselves here, in claret and blue.